Veronica Mars

I need to come up with some kind of Kickstarter scam scheme product.

ILX: the Kickstarter

Instead of pledging money, you send Buffy dvds.

Would pay for Party Down, would not pay for V. Mars, which fell off hard after season one.

Also, really uncomfortable giving money to Hollywood to make stuff for us to pay for.

That's because you'll pirate it otherwise, you heartless criminal.

tbf, most of the packages include a DVD so you don't have to pay twice

Some even come pre-chewed.

Do I get a share of the profits? Of whatshername's salary and (herherhe) backend?

I leave ilx for half the day, see this thread bumped, and the kickstarter project is already at $1.5 million. Daaaaamn. Looks like some other people love Veronica Mars, too.

No, you're just pre-ordering a DVD at an inflated price because you feel like if you don't, you'll never see a Veronica Mars movie. If you're someone who lusts after a VM movie or another season of Firefly or w/e, this is perfectly reasonable calculation.

A share of their mega, mega profits on this Veronica Mars movie, as Veronica Mars and Party Down made so much cash for the actors and writers

So, about Amanda Palmer and envy...nah, she is TOTALLY angling for that soundtrack spot, I can tell:

https://twitter.com/amandapalmer/status/311941320702820353

You mean mid-00s UPN shows weren't billion-dollar properties?

t-shirt + DVD for $50 isn't so bad... that's about what a ticket to a show + a t-shirt runs you these days.

most LOL support premium -- kristen bell will follow you on twitter!

at least they find it funny, rather than the Penny Arcade assholes who were selling you a precious retweet

amanda palmer is the worst dot avi

I was kinda tempted by the $750 one with tickets to the premiere, but I already spent $422 on music this year, so the entertainment budget is tight.

Xpost, mostly just complaining, but come on,.if you don't think the people behind this show didn't make a hunk of change just because they weren't hits, you don't know Hollywood, where even failure pays. 1 of my favorite magazine profiles of all time was of the star of the then lowest rated show on TV, Nick Freno Licensed Teacher. even he had a house on the hills with a pool.

IDG the revelance? Yeah, Kristen Bell is doing okay, though probably not okay enough to fund a multi-million dollar film on her own. Is this a charity drive for the cast?

I don't think Wallace has a house in the Hollywood Hills, though.

Yeah, young people make great financial decisions.

http://realestalker.blogspot.com/2012/02/la-home-of-kristen-bell-falls-into.html?m=1

I mean, assuming that dude wasn't in a non-failure later, Do you think he is still in that house?

Man, I wonder if we can earmark $$$ for Wallace.

xpost The relevance is in reference to folks that jibed sarcastically that Veronica Mars was a mega money maker or a billion dollar property, raining cash. Any way you slice it, the principals behind it got paid and got rich. Maybe not by Seinfeld standards, but extremely well off by human standards, if maybe not Hollywood standards. This is not a Kickstarter for a struggling musician or hand-to-mouth documentary film. This is raising money for a corporate project. With, granted, some talented and creative people involved, none of whom I imagine will be working for sub-scale, taking turns cooking pasta for the crew, rolling their paychecks into the production. I think every fan should be allowed to keep their favorite stuff going, by any means necessary. No one is twisting any arms here. But this makes Amanda Palmer's outstretched hand seem modest in comparison.

i'll own up to dropping $50 on this. that's like my fiancee and i going out to see two movies, neither of which would be about veronica mars. down for that.

I mean, assuming that dude wasn't in a non-failure later

The relevance is in reference to folks that jibed sarcastically that Veronica Mars was a mega money maker or a billion dollar property, raining cash.

Any way you slice it, the principals behind it got paid and got rich. Maybe not by Seinfeld standards, but extremely well off by human standards, if maybe not Hollywood standards. This is not a Kickstarter for a struggling musician or hand-to-mouth documentary film. This is raising money for a corporate project. With, granted, some talented and creative people involved, none of whom I imagine will be working for sub-scale, taking turns cooking pasta for the crew, rolling their paychecks into the production.

If they're trying to make this for $2mn or whatever, then yeah, Rob Thomas and Kristen Bell will be working for peanuts. If Bell wanted to make money, she'd sign on for another rom-com when her Showtime series is on hiatus. The entire idea is that Thomas needed to prove that there's a dedicated fanbase that will pay plenty of money to see the film, allowing the WB to let it be made risk-free, and so everyone's desires are served. Without the Kickstarting there's no movie.

Nm Josh in Chicago and his 'crusades'

OK so how much money is this actually gonna end up with? This is insane tbh.

I am so on a "crusade." This particular crusade has me up in arms, Arms, I tell you! I'm crusading! Or at least on a "crusade."

Tbh, I'm having trouble figuring out what the $2mil is for. To prove to WB that there is interest? To pay for the production, with WB handling distro and promotion? To pay for part of the production, with WB kicking in a bunch having received proof of interest? Iirc correctly, $2mil was around the cost of an ep of the show. I think the pilot was maybe $3mil.

That's probably the minimum they could do it for.

Over $1.8 million at this stage, plus nearly all high end packages over $500 are spoken for aside from two of the $5000 ones. I'm bizarrely impressed, this'll be funded within twelve hours total at this rate.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/03/kickstarter-kind-of-annoying-isnt-it/63060/

I should stress, crusading or no, that it's awesome anyone can raise so much money so quickly, for a corporate for profit venture or no.

This is just a new way for markets to work. I get the consternation, but hey, more Veronica Mars. Don't see why it's worth getting upset about.

i'm sure this movie will be really great and cool

It will be a Firefly crossover movie.

Nerds will explode and die.

and here i was worried that it would be so long til we'd see another 'veronica mars' project that it would turn into 'murder, she wrote'

but see the thing about firefly is that it sucks. besides that it's not really a fair comparison--joss whedon rules the world with his creepy nerd misogynist empire. rob thomas can't even work a half-hour comedy on fuckin starz.

What position is fucking Starz in to call something a success or not?

I know why Party Down flopped - because it was on Starz - but for the life of me I can't figure out how that show didn't end up somewhere else. Or, hell, how or why it ended up on Starz to begin with!

It was commissioned under the first Starz new-progamming director. He didn't last long, plus nobody watched it, so it got canned when the new guy came in.

Just to say I think the Amanda Palmer comparison is really unfair. He's not asking to crowdsource the crew and the cameras and having people volunteer to edit and foley etc.

Passed the goal.

I'm having trouble figuring out what the $2mil is for.

Iirc correctly, $2mil was around the cost of an ep of the show. I think the pilot was maybe $3mil.

so, the money is to pay for the cost of shooting up-front, minus what the packages sent to donators costs them, meaning they'd be working on a lower budget. presumably, WB would recompensate for the lesser earnings of the actors/director/writers if it makes more money, but if they don't, they're out nothing. if the kickstarter project makes more, then presumably they spend it on the production in some way, even if that's just pocketing it as compensation?

I mean, this isn't rocket science, they're basically saying "front us this much, and we'll make a movie." It's not "front us this much, and then we'll ask you to act in the movie for hugs"

joss whedon rules the world with his creepy nerd misogynist empire

a+ trolling

dude i've been rescreening some buffy and the guy is a total women's studies 101 sleazeball.

anyway the v mars kickstarter hit 2 million a few minutes ago. so there's something to look forward to.

They've said that any additional money will go into the production. They'll be able to shoot more locations etc...

Also, this is only a corporate enterprise insofar as Warner Bros owns Veronica Mars. I'm sure they'd make it completely indie if they could.

if they end up with some insane amount like $20 million they should just do a whole new season of the show, and also the Party Down movie

Also Kristen Bell gets 10 of her own sloths

I hope I can still get a pdf of the shooting script

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/tv-column/post/veronica-mars-creator-pledges-movie-of-short-lived-series-if-fans-can-raise-2-million-in-a-month/2013/03/13/9114dac6-8c02-11e2-9f54-f3fdd70acad2_blog.html

^about halfway down there's an implication that a Terriers movie kickstarter might be on the way