YOU THINK YOU ARE A CONSUMER BUT MAYBE YOU HAVE BEEN CONSUMED
Haven't watched these clips yet but I do love his TITLES.
― Alba, Tuesday, 5 March 2013 17:12 (thirteen years ago)
The cuts may be right, or they may be stupid - but the astonishing thing is how no-one really challenges them.
orly
I think that one of the reasons for this is because a lot of the power that shapes our lives today has become invisible - and so it is difficult to see how it really works and even more difficult to challenge it
difficult to challenge yes, invisible no. these days there are probably as many people trying to pull the wool away from our eyes as trying to pull it over.
― ledge, Wednesday, 6 March 2013 11:36 (thirteen years ago)
finished the mayfair set. a little shrill perhaps, but interesting.
and p.s. hmm, the treatment of mohammed al fayed was a little bit ... euphemistic. i'm not saying it was explicitly racist. that is for other people to say.
― caek, Wednesday, 8 May 2013 22:51 (thirteen years ago)
blimey ..this is dire
http://www.guardian.co.uk/culture/interactive/2013/jul/08/adam-curtis-massive-attack-what-is-reality
― mohel hell (Bob Six), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:35 (twelve years ago)
Seems to have been taken down.
― Inte Regina Lund eller nån, mitt namn är (ShariVari), Monday, 8 July 2013 22:55 (twelve years ago)
What was that, Bob Six?
― Iago Galdston, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 02:16 (twelve years ago)
It says "This article was temporarily taken down on Monday 8 July 2013."
Was an except of a poem/text that went with a video installation he did with Massive Attack in Manchester. Several b/w pics, maybe a video clip (couldn't see, was on my phone), quite long, didn't read, just scrolled and saw bits and pieces here and there - do you know what reality is, nicolai ceaucescu and his wife were shot, that's about all I remember :-/
― StanM, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 03:04 (twelve years ago)
More info without the actual excerpt: http://m.guardian.co.uk/music/2013/jul/07/adam-curtis-massive-attack-review
― StanM, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 03:09 (twelve years ago)
it's had a few sniffy reviews up here even from the Curtis fanbase. a fair few people walked out of the opening night supposedly; spending 2 hours standing up (with no bar!) in a darkened warehouse on a Friday night hasn't gone down to well with folk expecting a more traditional 'gig'.
£36 a pop too.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 05:29 (twelve years ago)
(SPOILER)
liz fraser's in it.
yeah, it's pretty disappointing, esp if you went to It Felt Like A Kiss a few years back. spoke to AC afterwards and he said he's working on turning the current thing into TV production for the BBC but there's a bunch of legal issues to get past so it might never happen (will prob end up on his blog though). He's also working on a new documentary series about massive institutions and how they're broken - including the BBC - *for* the BBC.
― NI, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 14:18 (twelve years ago)
http://www.latitudefestival.com/line-up/artist/alan-moore-mitch-jenkins-adam-curtis
― Ward Fowler, Tuesday, 9 July 2013 14:22 (twelve years ago)
"RD Laing challenged the psychiatric establishment in the 1960s THATCHER THATCHER DEATH WE ARE ALL PROSTITUTES something about prozac"
― the SI unit of ignorance (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 14:23 (twelve years ago)
"but this was an illusion."
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 18:05 (twelve years ago)
Got tix for this off the back of Curtis's involvement rather than Massive Attack, looking back upthread seems nuts that It Felt Like A Kiss was 4 years ago. Generally hit a lot of the MIF events, but with recent Babby A we could only really organise childcare for one proper evening event.
I read quite a lot of the mealy mouthed early reviews and was ready to be underwhelmed, but in the end came away feeling like it was something of a triumph - the immersive nature of the film screening was really effective and MA's involvement was understated yet powerful, takes a bit of grit for a band to avoid playing almost any of their own material and the covers were mostly great. I felt like Liz Fraser was a bit underutilised, but god hearing that voice live was a treat and the Russian pop song super beautiful. Could spend a long time going round the plughole of what Curtis is actually saying, and picking his argument apart, but during the show I was swept up into it and enjoyed it very much (same went for Mrs A and friends we were with). The Saturday night crowd laid into some thunderous applause at the end, and didn't see any walkouts from where we were. The Mayfield Depot was a v interesting and cavernous space to stage it in too, odd to think that such huge structures still lie derelict in the heart of the city.
On a tenuous note, we'd also been for a meal at Zouk in Manchester beforehand and Daddy G was in there, dining solo, on some kind of grilled chicken starter and then steak in a "lonely guy thinking baout things" mode.
― that mustardless plate (Bill A), Tuesday, 9 July 2013 20:25 (twelve years ago)
Adam Curtis on MI5:http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/posts/BUGGER
― slippery kelp on the tide (a passing spacecadet), Sunday, 11 August 2013 19:57 (twelve years ago)
Watch the film before you read Curtis on the people featured:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/posts/ONES-PRIVATE-LIFE
― Alba, Sunday, 19 January 2014 18:12 (twelve years ago)
Enjoyed the Whicker documentary.
It was interesting to see Elizabeth Jane Howard, as I'm just reading her autobiography and just finished the part covering her marriage to Peter Scott.
― mohel hell (Bob Six), Sunday, 19 January 2014 22:20 (twelve years ago)
oh Adampaws
http://www.newstatesman.com/culture/2014/02/adam-curtis-interview
― Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:13 (twelve years ago)
i sort of like the general ways this guy's mind works (esp. his emphasis on how right-thinking decisions can have disastrous or just bizarre unintended consequences, or his general chaos theory of world civilization) but the actual films (or videos) strike me as kind of 'roided out and glib. i'm not sure if i'm expected to take them as righteous muckraking or a kind of craig-baldwin-esque video theater and i don't think the confusion is particularly educational.
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:22 (twelve years ago)
He turned out to be engaging and personable, veering frantically one from one topic to another,
this basically describes his films
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:23 (twelve years ago)
yeah a sort of ADD thing. What I thought was a bit 0_0 in that interview were his pronouncements on music, I mean who knew that Rihanna might be making better records than the Arctic Monkeys? SCALES FALL FROM EYES
― Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:24 (twelve years ago)
also it kind of figures that he's one of those britishers who confuses "the state of music" with "the type of music that gets covered in the UK music press"
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:25 (twelve years ago)
"i am so tired of how ALL OF MUSIC is just looking backwards, viz. savages"
britishers seem to get all up in arms arguing about music that they would be perfectly within their rights to be ignoring like everybody else
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:27 (twelve years ago)
he also reminds me that punk rockers (and post-punk non-rockers) are among other things late baby boomers. that punk was a trend WITHIN baby-boom culture, not against it. 'cos just sub out a few words and he could just as easily be saying, "music isn't original anymore. remember when we had STEPPENWOLF?!"
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:29 (twelve years ago)
also i get the feeling from his work that he's both sententious /and/ misanthropic, which is kind of a toxic combo.
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:31 (twelve years ago)
(as some ILX posters habitually remind me)
What people are yearning for now is some kind of romantic visions of something beyond our present condition, and that would be good music.
thanks, prof!
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:33 (twelve years ago)
it's kind of endearing that the best he can come up with is Massive Attack, lol 1992 grandad! But then again, I guess we shouldn't be surprised that a middle aged bloke is a raging rockist.
― Kim Wrong-un (Neil S), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:38 (twelve years ago)
he's a rockist in popist clothes
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:54 (twelve years ago)
so you might say he's a pop-rocksist
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X17saFn9hgw/T9djDVKtd_I/AAAAAAAABEM/uZKjhY6eYqo/s1600/PopRocks_square600.jpg
― espring (amateurist), Wednesday, 5 March 2014 09:56 (twelve years ago)
Curtis should have probably kept his mouth shut but reading you on this has made the supposedly offending comments a lot better.
It could've been a more disciplined and coherent attempt to map music to what is happening but at least he is making the attempt. At least that whole thing of music as thermometer is present.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 10:50 (twelve years ago)
I'm not going to criticise his musical ideas when he's brought me the soundtracks to those films.
― Alba, Wednesday, 5 March 2014 11:10 (twelve years ago)
But the truth about the elite was much stranger and more unsettling.
takes an odd turn towards the end.
― woof, Thursday, 3 April 2014 09:13 (twelve years ago)
good(?) article
― Nhex, Thursday, 3 April 2014 15:58 (twelve years ago)
yes, tho' I like the anecdotal George Davis/Lambton stuff more than the big thesis, and haven't had time to watch the videos yet.
― woof, Thursday, 3 April 2014 16:19 (twelve years ago)
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/mar/11/bbc-iplayer-revamped-adam-curtis
Curtis will make three iPlayer-only films exploring themes of hypocrisy, deception and corruption in contemporary Britain – Out There, At the Mountains of Madness and Dream Baby Dream – available from July.
Have any iPlayer-enabled Britxors seen this yet?
― StanM, Saturday, 16 August 2014 13:16 (eleven years ago)
i wonder if they were ever up on iPlayer in July? they're not there now if so. i never recall hearing anything about them.
― piscesx, Saturday, 16 August 2014 17:08 (eleven years ago)
oh, ok - I can't tell, I'm not in Britain myself.
I wondered if the third documentary will be related to this bit from the Massive Attack thing, since "Dream Baby Dream" is the Suicide track that's playing:
http://vimeo.com/76571554
― StanM, Saturday, 16 August 2014 18:20 (eleven years ago)
there is this blog entry from 25th july
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/posts/NO-FUTURE
― koogs, Saturday, 16 August 2014 18:29 (eleven years ago)
Long! Thanks for the link.
― StanM, Saturday, 16 August 2014 20:55 (eleven years ago)
Bitter Lake. January 15th.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis/posts/TRAILER-TRASH
― piscesx, Monday, 15 December 2014 05:08 (eleven years ago)
lol @ the kanye cue
love this guy but the title card that says BUT THEN // EVERYTHING BECAME CHAOTIC AND UNPREDICTABLE is self-parody. politicians invented a radical new kind of chaos, but in order to do this etc.. anyway def gonna be worth watching for the footage.
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 15 December 2014 10:54 (eleven years ago)
if you can get ahold of it, Afghantsi by Peter Kosminsky is an amazing portrait of the the bewildering pointlessness of the Russian experience in Afghanistan
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 15 December 2014 11:45 (eleven years ago)
There's an interview in the Guardian today - http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/jan/24/adam-curtis-bitter-lake
Bitter Lake is up at 9pm UK time tomorrow
― paolo, Saturday, 24 January 2015 13:29 (eleven years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy8uLjRHPM
― paolo, Saturday, 24 January 2015 13:30 (eleven years ago)
His segment on the Charlie Brooker end of year review was incredibly dumb.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 January 2015 13:33 (eleven years ago)
Anybody seen Bitter Lake yet?
― Insane Prince of False Binaries (Gukbe), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:03 (eleven years ago)
I half watched it whilst cleaning up the pad for a flat inspection. Seemed engaging. Lots of Burial!
― All The Craigers Gonna Craig Craig Craig Craig Craig (Craigo Boingo), Tuesday, 27 January 2015 17:51 (eleven years ago)