David Lynch - Classic or Dud

werner herzog is probably also a good idea ... esp. even dwarfs started small.

OTM

I've never found the proper entry point for him, so I can't make recommendations, but: luis buñuel

Holy Mountain? I don't see that connection (unless yr thinking of the Dune angle)

their tones are totally diff but the wacky transgressive surrealism would appeal to a lynch fan methinks

The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari & other German Expressionist films.

Last Year at Marienbad

Might be difficult to find, but worth it.

Criterion is releasing it this year.

Optimum released it in 2006 I believe.

Thanks for all these, just watching the Tenant now. I particularly like the way Lynch uses music if that makes a difference to recommendations.

ronan: here's a clip from herzog's even dwarfs started small, if you haven't seen it already (i also think herzog makes interesting use of music in his films). so i guess that if you like this, then you should rent this film:

a PETA film of the month favorite

I enjoyed The Tenant, though it was sort of less postmodern than maybe what I was looking for. I mean actually I'm sure lots of these films I will enjoy, but I get a huge kick out of Lynch using pop music or modern music in really weird contexts, or the kind of humorous weirdness of eg the woman dancing on the car in Blue Velvet.

I will keep checking out the above recommendations though.

Cronenberg always strikes me as Lynch's nearest point of comparison.

SCORPIO RISING by Kenneth Anger seems like the most obvious precursor to Lynch in terms of use of pop music, colour, occult iconography

^^^Yes absolutely
Kustom Kar Kommandos, Scorpio Rising, Rabbit Moon

, but I get a huge kick out of Lynch using pop music or modern music in really weird contexts

Have you seen much Dennis Potter?

LGarda: Bunuel

re: music yeah Potter is another good reference point, my personal favorite is "Lipstick on Your Collar" (feat. super-young Ewan MacGregor!) but the most Lynch-like is definitely the og Pennies from Heaven.

werner herzog is probably also a good idea ... esp. even dwarfs started small.

And "Kaspar Hauser", if you're a fan of "The Elephant Man"

I think maybe Blackeyes is Potter's most Lynchian, but not his best.

Potter wrote a screenplay adaptation of the DM Thomas novel The White Hotel for David Lynch in 1990, apparently.

I have a Potter boxset. Have seen about half of it.

i was going to suggest "syndromes and a century" but that's not particularly lynchian in the way that Ronan is geting at, it's pretty singular. the problem is that i can't think of anything that is lynchian in that way other than his own films.

^ this is sort of seals the deal on lynch's greatness for me (not that the door really needs sealing for me, but still). no matter who he may have been influenced by, and after decades of being remarkably successful and influential in the weirdo art movie game, there just aren't any other "lynch-like" movies out there. he stands alone.

this is a good parody, though:

miracle mile does that cheerful cardboard americana turning into utter nightmare thing from blue velvet pretty well.

the Anthony Edwards movie?

this is a good resource if you're looking for movie recommendations based on other movies you like: clerkdogs.com

I enjoyed The Tenant, though it was sort of less postmodern than maybe what I was looking for. I mean actually I'm sure lots of these films I will enjoy, but I get a huge kick out of Lynch using pop music or modern music in really weird contexts, or the kind of humorous weirdness of eg the woman dancing on the car in Blue Velvet.

most of the ones I listed are similar to lynch in that they're terrifying films but they aren't horror movies, they work on the axes of social fear and loathing, gothic absurdity, and transgressive behavior. their use of music is pretty standard except for safe, which has some ironic diagetic 80s tunes sprinkled throughout.

have you seen richard elfman's forbidden zone?

has anyone ever ever seen this film? and if so, is it even vaguely Lynchian? crispin glover was in wild at heart, after all.

no and I would like to. What Is It? I'd also love to see

The Shining strikes me as sharing a certain tone with Lynch's films. The bearsuit blowjob scene comes to mind.

Maybe Eyes Wide Shut too.

The Shining strikes me as sharing a certain tone with Lynch's films. The bearsuit blowjob scene comes to mind.

and that's quite deliberate -- if wikipedia is to be believed, stanley kubrick had the cast of the shining watch eraserhead in order to get them in the mood for what he was trying to accomplish with the shining.

Never knew that - thanks.

this has probably been posted many times before: Lynch's adert for Parisienne cigarettes

which totally of reminds me of fischi and weiss's der lauf der dinge:

fischli & Weiss *

movies that have been at the top of my to-see list for a long time for reasons not unrelated to their possible Lynchian-ness:

Tetsuo The Iron Man
The Reflecting Skin
Greaser's Palace
Night Dreams (nsfw googling as this is a porn film)
Liquid Sky (??? prolley not ???)

has anyone seen these? can they attest to the possible affinities to that which is Lynch-esque?

also:

Egoyan's The Adjuster REALLY freaked me out

you might do worse than ot check out certainanime titles. I'm thinking of FLCL and especially Revolutionary Girl Utena: The Movie which is fascinating in its nonlinearity...familiar with only the bare essentials of the original teen girls' anime series, but apparently the movie is related to the series the same way that Fire Walk With Me* is related to Twin Peaks...

*didn't FWIW top the box offices in Japan when it first came out?

the movie is related to the series the same way that Fire Walk With Me is related to Twin Peaks...

actually not true, the movie is not a prequel, but an alternate reality set-up with the lesbian overtones amped up and the themes all turned on their head...still good stuff though...

FWIW = FWWM of course

Lynch id the producer of the new Herzog movie:
My Son, My Son, What Have Ye Done

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1233219/

looks promising

also,more surprising, the Alejandro Jodorowsky comeback movie:
"king shot" with Nick Nolte,Asia Argento and Marilyn Manson,
now THAT i want to see!!
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0892411/

"The story is to be set in a casino in the desert. The film involves gangsters, the discovery of a man as big as King Kong, and Marilyn Manson is said to portray a 300 year old pope. "

tetsuo is rad. no similarity to lynch other than that it's weird and super alienated - plus b&w like eraserhead & elepant mans

the reflecting skin is surreal & creepy coming of age thing, about the evil that lurks under the skin of the everday, so blue velvety, but not deeply so

greaser's palace is more like "zany" wokka-wokka american version of jodorowsky

night dreams is a new-wavey, very self-consciously surreal porn flick, but pretty cool for what it is. cafe flesh by the same crew might be better. they also made the erotic but non-pronographical dr. caligari. all are arty student film awkward, but also unique, campy and fun. probably closer to forbidden zone than to lynch (but nowhere near as relentlessly zany)

liquid sky is another new-wave artifakt, and by far the most low-budget flick on the list. none of these last three even remotely resemble lynch, but i love em all.

right on contenderizer. i thank you. :)

the adjuster is pretty much follows yr description of reflecting skin, except there are no scifi overtones that i can remember...also super-alienated...but with egoyan's trademark revealing style giving it the frame work...

(not saying you haven't seen it though...just for the record...)

i don't remember whether or not i've seen the adjuster. i think not. i think i've only seen family viewing and the sweet hereafter. maybe one more? anyway, i should go back and watch all the egoyan i missed. love the two i can remember. anyway, no sci-fi in the reflecting skin, either. tetsuo, liquid sky and night dreams are the sci-fi-ier ones.

the reflecting skin is surreal & creepy coming of age thing, about the evil that lurks under the skin of the everday, so blue velvety, but not deeply so

The Passion of Darkly Noon, Philip Ridley's second film also has Lynchian qualities, though the drama is more straightforward and there isn't as much humor. It's well worth the watch anyway, don't be scared by the fact that it co-stars Brendan Fraser.

oh, i thought some lady was like a vampire and there were weird guys riding around in limousines stealing children...who were also vampires...or something...for some reason i got the impression that the reflecting skin had a really dour donnie darko vibe to it...

i heard of the passion of darkly noon...that sounded really goo too...i think these movies are pretty unknown in the states...?

they aren't on dvd here

you can dl the reflecting skin from here:

http://www.cultrararevideos.com/forgottenflixr.html