Why I hate the Daily Mail, as distilled into one edition

"Wesley, tell me, where was your father born?"

guys stop making me laugh at work

have always been amused by the TOS's depiction of a world where people from all races and cultures work aboard the enterprise but it's ok for Bones to sling racist slurs at Spock all day long

in a way it's like BBC News article comment threads

Holy shit bones and spock are fergie and wenger how did this no occur to me til now

Wd like to see something similar to the Wrath of Khan denouement between those two.

A brief image search turns up the revelation that there's a lot of Trek slash fiction out there.

Kirk/Spock was possibly the original "slash" fiction.

yeah BB, that stuff must predate the net

That article is a perfectly reasonable look at census data and shifts in British working class patterns of residency, a legitimate topic IMO.

ok but how is shit like this necessary

Some white British may have moved because their neighbourhood has been culturally transformed, the tea rooms and restaurants replaced by takeaway chicken shops and halal supermarkets serving the new arrivals.

And the pic of the Polish pub and "Polish is the second most common language spoken in England" which is the only mention of Polish people in the whole article?

Some white British may have moved because their neighbourhood has been culturally transformed, the tea rooms and restaurants replaced by takeaway chicken shops and halal supermarkets serving the new arrivals.

lol because back in the day restaurants in Britain would serve roast beef, yorkshire pudding, spotted dick and NO OTHER FOOD

Actually, the takeaway chicken shops thing doesn't even have to do with immigration at all, just a straight up racist dog-whistle.

oh it's the usual sloppy BBC generalisations and lowest common denominator reporting, it's just that the topic itself shouldn't automatically be out of bounds IMO.

it's a shite article that would never appear anywhere else, but they feel the need to have these fucking dumb question features at least once a day.

the chicken shop bit definitely stands out too, like white people don't eat fried chicken or something.

also tea rooms - wtf is a tea room?

Tea rooms exist in places like Harrogate and Windsor, and in the minds of racists.

There's a tea room(s) in Stoke Newington, THAT WELL KNOWN ALL-WHITE ENCLAVE

Hitchin had a very good (non-racist) tea room that ran for a very long time but got replaced by a Starbucks.

GWS fried chicken is delicious

*GWS = goes without saying

"Tea rooms" is very much a 50s / 60s thing, i think. Obviously can't say "cafes" or "fish and chip shops" as half of them were run by the bleedin' Italians.

e.g. Lyon's Team Rooms, which you still occasionally see as re-purposed restaurants and cafes round London, for example Shanghai restaurant in Dalston.

tea rooms still a massive mainstay of the tourist industry in rural towns & villages all across the country.

hell yeah, every village within sight of the Yorkshire Dales has got at least one tea room

these articles are the equivalent of the endless 5Live phone-ins where people like Nicky Campbell in no way invite racists to air their thoughts to the nation by raising important questions like "Should We Send All Them Polish Back Where They Come From?"

Polish them off, I say

There used to be a really good one in Ayr that we went to a few times as a treat when I lived in Prestwick as a kid. But yeah thats a touristy place.

does anybody remember the report from a few years back - possibly during the Birt years but possibly just after - that said the Beeb wasn't doing enough to reflect the thoughts and tastes of working class white dudes? hello BBC3, hello 5Live the nation's debate, hello Why They Hide Their White People Under My Swanage?

yes. He also said sitcoms were too middle class

well he had a point there

he thought ITV did it better with Mind Your Languageand Love Thy Neighbour

I'd say Beeb probably doesn't reflect working class views generally, or represent them. Class is imo a bigger issue than race in the BBC. In my experience there is quite a strong spread of racial backgrounds and nationalities but everyone is middle class or up, really, I suppose as you'd expect.

From watching/listening to it, I mean.

as you'd expect from watching/listening to it.

of course i agree that the Beeb's representation of working class people is sub-par, i shd've gone on to say that this kind of pandering stupidity makes it worse if anything. not that racism is a specifically working class issue.

It's a topic that deserves a better article, really. The nature of London has changed quite significantly but it's not a straight immigration issue. The demographic changes have been driven by a massive boom in the financial sector, which is obviously international in nature, and the rise of poverty-level service sector jobs that can't support settled families. That might actually require addressing the class issue, though.

i think the assumption that there is a specific, identifiable set of working class attitudes that can be catered to rather than just, y'know, engaging with wc people on a level beyond "phone in and shout about ethnics" is probly most galling

this article, though it doesn't specify that it's a rejoinder to the BBC piece directly, obviously is (and is also very good):
http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/2013/02/truth-about-londons-white-flight

Skips the comments under that one too, though!

"Whites Only Tea Room: The Finest Whines Available To Humanity"
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/6m6LhZJdCQY/0.jpg
withnailanditearoomscene.jpg

Twitter tells me that Mumsnet were approached by a Mail journalist looking for mothers disappointed in the NHS over being sent to A&E, and the mums are roasting this poor, benighted fool - who will have paid the site a £30 'media fee' to call for respondents.

Why They Hide Their White People Under My Swanage?

too good

£30 'media fee' to call for respondents

something to consider when the next ILX funding issue rears its head maybe

i for one would be happy to speak to a Daily Mail journalist for £30. if they'd like to meet me personally i'd do it for nowt.

wire in
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2281959/Apprentice-star-Katie-Hopkins-admits-I-wont-let-children-play-friends-I-deem-beneath-them.html

It's the kids I feel sorry for

i dunno, these chinless twits like to stick to their own, it seems to work out for them

i dunno what the rough kids are like at a private school tho

True, keep them away from normal people (xp)

LOL @ the whole thing about how she judges people's kids by their names, so "Charmaine" is out but "Poppy" and "Maisie" are in. Makes me want to boke-up baby cream.

With her pierced ears, passion for pink leggings and array of electronic play equipment, Charmaine is definitely not the sort of child I want my daughter associating with. Pretending to look at my diary, I sighed. 'Oh what a shame. We're busy on that day.'
Poppy looked disappointed until I promised to organise an extra tennis lesson.

Got this far and had to stop. Doctor's order, blood pressure and all that.