Moneyball won't win the Premiership 2012-13

going to give it 110 per cent to make sure that frozen curry comes out of the microwave when it matters

I face seven cup finals in order to make it through to payday next week without breaking my overdraft limit.

I faced cup final heartbreak this morning when my train left the station as I was pulling up; fortunately I stayed focused for the replay ten minutes later.

Doing well to get to twelve cup finals, not havin won all that many cup games

Hoping team Frozen Curry is strong enough to make it through a possible punishing period if extra time.

turned up in Armani suit for a cup final of a date a few weeks ago. night was ultimately ruined by a Frenchman.

i like Paul Lambert tho

i respond to his supreme dourness

i admire the fact that he's clearly decided the squad he took over were mostly cunts and is sticking to his guns about it

every time he passes Stephen Ireland in the corridor is a cup final

they stop and sing Abide With Me before passing

Ireland introduced by a big-lunged minor celebrity belting out 80s power ballads

i have no idea who Jack Robinson is but i'm confident he's better than Stephen Ward

Good against Arsenal, terrible against Blackburn iirc

that's a 50 per cent improvement on Wardy already then

Liverpool's last three seasons at this point:

2010-11
P 	W 	D 	L 	F 	A 	GD 	Pt
27 	11 	6 	10 	35 	32 	+3 	39
2011-12
27 	10 	9 	8 	30 	26 	+4 	39
2011-12
27 	10 	9 	8 	49 	34 	+15 	39

That's a lot of managers and players and staff to go through to slightly increase goal difference.

not this again

Previous season under Rafa: 45 Pts, +16 GD

tbf they'd be on more points in the championship if they'd kept hodgson

arguably

Not what again? Don't you think it weird that they've had the exact same number of points from those games three seasons running despite three managers with different styles and players? Lots of different ways of achieving the exact same thing.

It's hardly 'slightly' ffs. +15 is worth an extra point over Swansea or West Brom.

Aye fair enough, I suppose they're technically safe from relegation one match earlier with that pseudo point.

Doubt this matters at all unless the season is unexpectedly ending tomorrow.

After 26 game might have told a different story, not involving a hammering of Swansea reserves.

Also worth pointing out that Liverpool were absolute dogshit from March onwards last year and unless they have another similar collapse then they'll definitely amass more points by the end of the season.

No point blaming rodgers dalglish or woy for the damage from previous regimes

pvmic

ikr

just blame roy and dalglish for their own damage.

not even managers tbf, i think rodgers inherited a fucking huge mess with large legacy hangovers in transfers, personnel, etc, as did dalglish, as did woy, there's nothing strange about a new manager inheriting a mess- it's why he's the new manager after all. but throw three changes in three or four years and mix in the overarching boardroom and financial struggles that dominated most of the early part of that process, and i think it's fair to say that stability, a better standard of football and a slow improvement (not this season, necessarily) is acceptable for rodgers while he's changing things up.

he should just stfu with his bullshit while doing it. his bullshit, whatever lg says, is orders worse than the bullshit of most other managers. it's the most obvious you-did-not-just-see-what-you-just-saw nonsense, it insults everyone he sprays it on and it serves fuck all use, because the team are clearly not buying it and the fans are clearly not buying it (though they broadly support his tenure so far, i think) and it is a stick to beat the club with because (and i know i'll be accused of obsessing here) it is exactly the clumsy 'building a mentality' rubbish that rafa was so awful at and so noted for.

second par a clear case of too much sugar there, way, way over the top.

only the last rafa bit, if i review it again.

ill-thought out, ignores roy in a discussion of media failure, amazingly enough, and no basis whatsoever for the wild comments on rodgers. not even seen you comment on a liverpool game anyway so it's clear this is all based on hot air.

the clumsy 'building a mentality' rubbish that rafa was so awful at and so noted for.

this one too, what?

hmm but you see woy didn't have this trait, which was a fan failure but you can't always be coddling people if their coddled nature is part of the problem, there's only so much tickling under the collective chin a manager should be doing imo.

i've commented plenty on liverpool! i've agreed with yourself on them, mainly iirc

the comments on rodgers i stand by, they are magnificent comments.

rafa! he was always telling obvious porkies in seeming attempt to build the 'everyone is against us' or 'we've been brilliant out there today' way mentality that tbf lots of managers use. but he was very bad for it, still is. a bad liary man tbs.

hmm but you see woy didn't have this trait, which was a fan failure but you can't always be coddling people if their coddled nature is part of the problem, there's only so much tickling under the collective chin a manager should be doing imo.

absolute rubbish now, complete resting on laurels rubbish, oh it's the lfc fans' fault. roy coddled and talked more shit than anyone. the worst merseyside derby performance in living memory was the a brilliant performance according to roy.

he's still an absolute foot-in-mouth merchant with england too, this is the bloke who casually told fans on the tube he was basically retiring a senior international.

if anyone could see me lollin now they'd be sure i'm just trolling but i just v much enjoy our respective roles in this constant hyperbole that probably finds a fair balance somewhere just my side of the centre

i think rodgers inherited a fucking huge mess with large legacy hangovers in transfers
yup

as did dalglish, as did woy
yes, but dalglish was given a shitload of money to put things right and spent it rather unwisely

he should just stfu with his bullshit while doing it
yup, he doesn't do himself any favours

He may yet turn out to be a good manager for Liverpool.

it's like purgatory in this place, i swear.

xpost i think rodgers has mostly assessed games accurately. many of the times he's defended them it's been when they've battered a team and lost, which has happened a lot this year. not disputing that's a problem with something he's doing, but it's not as much of a problem as creating nothing and being beaten easily.

plus a siege mentality is part of management, he hasn't ranted and raved about decisions or been wild about referees.

Rodgers rants at referee

Brendan Rodgers launched in to a tirade against referee Phil Dowd for his performance as Liverpool's eight-match unbeaten run came to an unfortunate end at Tottenham.

Date 29/11/12

Top google hit for brendan rodger rant (of about 325,000 results (0.30 seconds) ).

"rodgers", rather

go and tell the headmaster exactly what you googled

mahatma gandhi nazi

About 1,920,000 results (0.47 seconds)

fucking hell

I tried "ronan is an entitled prick" once, but my screen just filled with zeroes.

insult away, i merely commented on your football-related research.

Well, apart from the fact you didn't...

I googled brendan rodgers rant with no quotes, I then realised as soon as it came on screen I typed that I'd googled rodger instead so corrected it. You then jumped in with some irrelevant guff about headmasters.

OK, why not comment on what I found then? From the Mail report of the same incident:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2240115/Brendan-Rodgers-rages-Phil-Dowd.html

'Nothing is going for us away from home, that's how its been all season in terms of decisions,' Liverpool boss Rodgers said in his post-match press conference.

'Clint Dempsey has been clever (with the free-kick). He gets a hand in his back and goes down.

'We should have had two [penalties tonight]. It's incredible to have gone through the season without getting a penalty.

'The Steven Gerrard one was nearly assault. How is that not a penalty?

'Watch the second one. Luis Suarez spins, William Gallas swings his left foot, catches him and he goes down.

'The statistics will tell you that we've been in the box as much as anyone, but to arrive at this stage of season and not get a penalty.'

everybody knows that the smaller Premier League clubs get nothing off refs

In fairness it was all true.

motd the other night claimed that Liverpool have had more shots than anyone in Europe's big leagues. Sturridge will make a hell of a difference if that's right. Some of them will even be from in the box now I reckon.