even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

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"As a server at Marlow & Sons, the nose-to-tail temple in Williamsburg, Ms. Ghiorse said she loved being surrounded by “that unbelievably saturated population” of creative influencers, like James Murphy from LCD Soundsystem."

this article is a goldmine.

s.clover, Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:32 (thirteen years ago)

“Once in a while, you’ll think, ‘This place gets it,’ because they have a Fernet Branca cocktail on their menu.”

i want to marry this quote.

s.clover, Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:33 (thirteen years ago)

"in a Wittgensteinian sort of way"

ok this article is trolling us. or these people are. this can't be real.

s.clover, Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

“I saw some moms out in Hastings with their kids with tattoos. A little glimmer of Williamsburg!”

even the kids have tattoos now

veryupsetmom (harbl), Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:34 (thirteen years ago)

what is a "futurism consultant"?

s.clover, Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:35 (thirteen years ago)

what is the "slow-learning movement"? is this what hipster moms are calling persons with mental disabilities now?

veryupsetmom (harbl), Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:38 (thirteen years ago)

its all too perfect. it smells like a set-up.

s.clover, Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:41 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.fastcompany.com/1830306/ari-wallachs-career-solution-become-real-life-problem-solver

s.clover, Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:43 (thirteen years ago)

this isn't the first time he's been in the nytimes either: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/21/business/for-their-children-many-e-book-readers-insist-on-paper.html/

he's like a go-to made up trend artist.

s.clover, Saturday, 16 February 2013 22:45 (thirteen years ago)

if the WSJ's funny pages are its Opinion section; then the NYT's funny pages are its Style section.

there is no other rational explanation that i can think of!

i have a history of enabling your mother. (Eisbaer), Saturday, 16 February 2013 23:05 (thirteen years ago)

is reading to your child via kindle/ipad really a thing? i dont think reading to kids out of a book is that rare of a thing, even in the most upperclass families

chilli, Saturday, 16 February 2013 23:34 (thirteen years ago)

i'm still in awe of the hipsturbia article, but i can't be shocked at this point w/ nyt's obsession over the eternal battle of one type of rich people v. another type of rich people. i suddenly feel dirty i ever lived in williamsburg in the first place.

Spectrum, Saturday, 16 February 2013 23:59 (thirteen years ago)

i'm still in awe of the hipsturbia article, but i can't be shocked at this point w/ nyt's obsession over the eternal battle of one type of rich people v. another type of rich people.

they know their target audiences! and that they're oblivious to parody (to wit: shameless).

i have a history of enabling your mother. (Eisbaer), Sunday, 17 February 2013 00:10 (thirteen years ago)

He needed more convincing. “Nicole brought me up here kicking and screaming,” Mr. McNeil recalled. But he was won over once he saw a rambling three-story, five-bedroom Victorian with a wraparound porch for $860,000. There was even space for a basement rec room. And it was only a 40-minute drive to his Brooklyn studio.

classic

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 17 February 2013 00:31 (thirteen years ago)

is reading to your child via kindle/ipad really a thing? i dont think reading to kids out of a book is that rare of a thing, even in the most upperclass families

― chilli, Saturday, February 16, 2013 5:34 PM (44 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

of course it's a thing! people have ipads and kindles, and they buy books on them and then read those books to their kids, they are things from which you can read a book, just that it's upperclass families that tend to have them. so sure, some well-off ppl read books, and keep the ipad in the whatever ipad holder, but most ppl are reading from books as a matter of course. what's weird is that the nyfnt is touting not-reading-actual-physical-books as some kind of looming threat to childhood development, when the greater danger is not being read to in the first place

“Somehow, I think it’s different,” she said. “When you read a book, a proper kid’s book, it engages all the senses. It’s teaching them to turn the page properly. You get the smell of paper, the touch.”

i wish proust had never lived

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Sunday, 17 February 2013 01:00 (thirteen years ago)

i think there is maybe room for some anxiety about exposure to mediated screen images from very early ages but as a parent i've pretty much given up and all my digital devices can now read to my daughter.

Mordy, Sunday, 17 February 2013 01:02 (thirteen years ago)

He needed more convincing. “Nicole brought me up here kicking and screaming,” Mr. McNeil recalled. But he was won over once he saw a rambling three-story, five-bedroom Victorian with a wraparound porch for $860,000. There was even space for a basement rec room. And it was only a 40-minute drive to his Brooklyn studio.

classic

― christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, February 16, 2013 7:31 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wow, only $860,000. Thank god there's still a place in the area low-income creative professionals can afford.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Sunday, 17 February 2013 01:46 (thirteen years ago)

if yuppies are going to drop $860K on a home, better it should be a Victorian than the usual cookie-cutter condos.

but that's me being a snob talking.

i have a history of enabling your mother. (Eisbaer), Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:05 (thirteen years ago)

What is a "futurism consultant?"

http://www.weirdwildrealm.com/filmimages/plan9criswell.jpg

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:32 (thirteen years ago)

And it was only a 40-minute drive to his Brooklyn studio.

Sentence custom designed to give iatee a stroke.

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:33 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.faithpopcorn.com/

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:34 (thirteen years ago)

suburbs are the new cities! jerkin!

s.clover, Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:41 (thirteen years ago)

I called this one like six months ago after meeting some williamsburg artist couple who moved to peekskill

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Sunday, 17 February 2013 02:44 (thirteen years ago)

“Somehow, I think it’s different,” she said. “When you read a book, a proper kid’s book, it engages all the senses. It’s teaching them to turn the page properly. You get the smell of paper, the touch.”

It's insufferable crap like this that makes me wish I liked reading on the Kindle and the iPad more than I do.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:12 (thirteen years ago)

idk I don't think it's that particularly outlandish an opinion, esp as it pertains to childrens books (of which we've got, jeez, 50-60 and they're all different shapes, sizes, and have a wide variety of tactile qualities.)

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:50 (thirteen years ago)

would you mind smelling them for us, you know, to confirm some of these claims empirically

j., Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:53 (thirteen years ago)

if you'd like I'll send you a sample of my newest artisanal scented candle, I call it "book"

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:57 (thirteen years ago)

Books that smell usually smell of dust or mildew.

Aimless, Sunday, 17 February 2013 03:59 (thirteen years ago)

militant luddite sentiments (e.g., "Kindle deprives us of the crumbly feel & mildewy smell of old books BOOO!") are just as insufferable as militant technophile sentiments (e.g., "Kindle deprives us of the crumbly feel & mildewy smell of old books YAYYY!") since current American quiddities sensibilities privilege "authenticity" over "innovations," it's natural that a quiddities article expressing a luddite bibliophile sentiment would get printed (the converse is relegated to Apple or Amazon press releases for iPads and Kindle, i suppose).

i have a history of enabling your mother. (Eisbaer), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:05 (thirteen years ago)

http://www.sensesofcinema.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/fahrenheit451-285x300.jpg

s.clover, Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:06 (thirteen years ago)

nb: i don't even have a tablet of my own at this point. mostly outta laziness at this point -- i like books well enough, but paeans to their touch & smell strike me as a bit silly.

i have a history of enabling your mother. (Eisbaer), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:07 (thirteen years ago)

I guess it's just that I too read books on paper most of the time, and when reading to my kids all of the time, but it's not because I have some kind of olfactory fetish about them, it's because books are well-designed and useful tools that serve their purpose really well, indeed better (for me, not for others) than a tablet or reader serves that purpose. That's the reason to have them. If the point of the paper book is that it smells nice, the paper book really IS dead.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 17 February 2013 04:32 (thirteen years ago)

books can smell nice, but not nearly as nice as a fresh pack of Magic cards, so it's probably something else that is the point of books

Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Sunday, 17 February 2013 06:10 (thirteen years ago)

hipsturbia, shut the style secretion down, this one will never be topped

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 February 2013 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

lmao

lag∞n, Sunday, 17 February 2013 17:16 (thirteen years ago)

Mr. McNeil is one half of the lauded street-art duo Faile, known for its explosive swirls of graffiti art, wheat-paste sloganeering and punk rock. He wears his hair in a top bun and bears tattoos with his sons’ names, Denim and Bowie, on his forearms. His wife, Nicole Miziolek, is an acupuncturist.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Sunday, 17 February 2013 17:29 (thirteen years ago)

Denim and Bowie, cursed to open a McNeil Brothers' Artisanal Mustard Shop in 2028.

Even by Zales standards, that's sad. (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 February 2013 17:34 (thirteen years ago)

Denim and Bowie

carl agatha, Sunday, 17 February 2013 18:12 (thirteen years ago)

I think the nyt deserves a Pulitzer for these pieces, this is high high comedy.

christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 17 February 2013 18:20 (thirteen years ago)

Maybe it's supposed to be "tattoos with his sons' names, denim, and bowie"

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Sunday, 17 February 2013 19:20 (thirteen years ago)

“Hastings-on-Hudson is a village, in a Wittgensteinian sort of way,” Mr. Wallach said.

What does this even mean?

Virginia Plain, Sunday, 17 February 2013 19:30 (thirteen years ago)

NYTimes writing aside, those suburbs sound pretty nice to live in. If you're a struggling street artist who can only afford an $860k mortgage.

Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, 17 February 2013 19:35 (thirteen years ago)

It would be so awesome if the kids' names were pronounced de-NEEM and BOO-wie, like the town in Maryland, or the knife.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 17 February 2013 19:41 (thirteen years ago)

NYTimes writing aside, those suburbs sound pretty nice to live in. If you're a struggling street artist who can only afford an $860k mortgage.

― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Sunday, February 17, 2013 2:35 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I've half considered the hudson valley for a long time. And I thought fed up artists leaving the city and setting up little shops and galleries in those towns wasn't an established tradition. Maybe this is just the new wave.

space phwoar (Hurting 2), Sunday, 17 February 2013 19:55 (thirteen years ago)

xpost

The greatest thing about this article is how if frames moving to an $800K house in a trendy suburb as failure.

Moodles, Sunday, 17 February 2013 19:57 (thirteen years ago)

hasting-on-hudson is a nice town. i used to know a failed musician-turned-lawyer who moved there in 1998 or so.

i have a history of enabling your mother. (Eisbaer), Sunday, 17 February 2013 20:04 (thirteen years ago)

lol failing upwards

i have a history of enabling your mother. (Eisbaer), Sunday, 17 February 2013 20:05 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xy_Clys4ul4

brownie, Sunday, 17 February 2013 20:09 (thirteen years ago)

he's like a go-to made up trend artist.

The website for his company reads like a parody, too:

synthesis corp. is a New York City based consultancy that lives at the intersection of innovation, strategy and purpose driven culture. ... synthesis works with governments, NGOs, foundations, and corporations at the C-suite level to discover new ways to drive sustainable innovation, rethink business models and improve top-line metrics. ... Our methodology embraces design science, behavioral economics, foresight analysis and data driven hypothesis prototyping to tackle complex client challenges. We then apply systems-based thinking to identify untapped areas of opportunity and deliver comprehensive 4D strategic blueprints. ... We are a process driven enterprise that applies our expertise, insights and network in collaboration with our clients’ core principles, knowledge and experience to deliver best-in-class results. ... We are on the cusp of an entirely new macro/micro economic, technological and social paradigm. What we do now will set the trim tab for decades to come.

Set the trim tab!

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 17 February 2013 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

that type of incomprehensible/silly corporate web-page speak is sadly very very common, though.

i have a history of enabling your mother. (Eisbaer), Sunday, 17 February 2013 20:39 (thirteen years ago)


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