The official bored-at-work cryptic crossword pass it on thread.

April Fool's Day. Gull = a gullible person.

Never heard that in my life.

it's the dictionary definition of gull

Well, yeah, I see that now and I get it, just saying a usage like "that multimillionaire is enough of a gull to believe that it's his personality that attracts women" is one that I have never encountered in a book, movie, daily conversation or crossword. Which is great; I also learned that Handel wrote oratorios based on Saul and Samson.

Using an obscure secondary definition like that is a classic way crossword setters use to throw people off the scent.

christ the prize crossword today is DOING MY HEAD IN

i think i hate bonxie quite a lot

very enjoyable from y'day's indy crossword, which i turned to after yelling "fucking bonxie" a few too many times:

Somewhat Kiplingesque! (5)

What's the answer to that one then Lex?

I liked this one in today's Guardian:

1,000-1 betting slip? (7)

Slang and other names for the exclamation mark

This punctuation mark is called, in the printing world, "a screamer, a gasper, a startler, or ... a dog's cock".[11]

In hacker culture, the exclamation mark is called "bang", "shriek", or, in the British slang known as Commonwealth Hackish, "pling". For example, "Your password is em-zero-pee-aitch-pling-en-three."

nice!

It's not easy to be mostly shy and also appealing to a small group of devotees (9)

Hilarious friend hugging Jim Morrison's woman and half weeping at a music festival (wotd 12)

did you get my one Ledge?

Mistake?

knew you'd get it!

It's not easy to be mostly shy and also appealing to a small group of devotees (9)

-----c---

Hilarious friend hugging Jim Morrison's woman and half weeping at a music festival (wotd 12)

--------o--a

It's not easy to be mostly shy and also appealing to a small group of devotees (9)

difficult

The other's Lollaplooza, right? Lol +LA + pal +ooz(ing). Or something.

ooz + a, yup. and yup to difficult too.

admittedly i didn't have that much time to spend on it, but yesterday's guardian crossword continued my tradition of being unable to get even one single arachne clue - think this is the 3rd arachne crossword i've tried, and the 3rd time i've been left with a completely blank grid

weirdly i really like the way her clues are written, she's just obviously way too smart for me (contra bonxie, who i don't get along with either but who just annoys me)

unusually I was able to do some of Arachne yesterday. I enjoyed this clue:

Spooner's to kill writer and collect £200! (4, 2)

that was the one i felt most close to getting, but...nope, no idea

already got about a third of today's araucaria though :)

think of a certain board game

spoilers (written backwards)

(eoP saG)

I got that one! Unlike all others posted here recently :(

Todays newbie report:

Can't tell you how long it took me to understand "If this place grew corn, it might be a good sign" (5) even after I had the answer. Way too long. Sometimes punny/jokey solutions just lose me. Alas and alack.

Also, the only way I have ever heard that phrase is as I just typed it. "Alack and alas" is not a thing, is it?

google says "alack and alas" is more popular, which confirms what i kind of felt

Following the recent Beyonce ref, another one for Lex in today's Guardian (took a while to realise how good this one is):

In foyer, a chair - American diva's reclining, is she? (6,5)

that's gotta take some chutzpah to even think about trying to make any kind of hidden word out of such a combination of letters.

got it but not sure I get it completely

'In'=hidden word, 'reclining'=backwards, 'she'=definition (ie american diva).

Cheers

Oh, that's nice.

heh, i got that one immediately. it perfectly captures her essence, too <3

Her essence is a person who LOVES dolphins iirc, don't see that in the clue...

may have back-combed hair and love for american diva (6,5)

yeah yeah 'have' should be 'has' for the clue reading to work, just messin' here.

american diva might be full of love after back-combing hair

not a patch on 'foyer a chair american' i know.

that's all-time

this was in the grauniad the other day, there are (at least) two answers that work perfectly, we put the wrong one in.

Stick that's split (6)

that one fucked up our solving process for the longest time because the answer was so obviously BRANCH except it wasn't >:(

cleave?

wd be my first thought because it's one of those words with oppositional meanings

yeah it was extra-annoying when we realised because cleave is one of my all-time fav words for that exact reason

yeah it's an old chestnut, but obv when we thought 'branch' we didn't think on it any further.

so which meaning does 'cleavage' come from?

"split", obv

yeah it's an old chestnut, but obv when we thought 'branch' we didn't think on it any further

but if you're stuck on the connecting words b/c you can't make the letters fit then you should always revisit the one you think you've got right.

A few I've come up with that probably break some setters' rules or other but they make sense to me:

masturbate, half-mad for goddess (6)
no more cold (6)
lower ground for one such as Merkel (9)

need help

in the meantime

Hear cry of admonishment after paedo Jimmy exposes sausage (7)

A+

I don't really know how to help! I'll put up the answers in a bit.