yay, the actual Metro! On TV!
― Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Saturday, 2 February 2013 07:48 (eleven years ago) link
warms the cockles of my homesick heart
This is very good, Spacey is no Ian Richardson in terms of pure malevolent evil, but my initial worries about the pacing over 13 hours have largely been allayed.
If this is what the brave new world of television looks like, count me in.
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 2 February 2013 12:15 (eleven years ago) link
i think they released it to critics early... nyt had a big review yesterday morning
― max, Saturday, 2 February 2013 13:04 (eleven years ago) link
There are some etiquette questions surrounding this. What can I talk about and it not be considered a spoiler?
― American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Saturday, 2 February 2013 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
and yes Morbius, the villain is a dem
Well that would make sense as they're actually in power (now and, fingers crossed, for the foreseeable future), but the original was devised and written by a Tory of course, in fact I saw him popping up in the House of Lords recently
― Designated Striver (Tom D.), Saturday, 2 February 2013 13:12 (eleven years ago) link
Missed this until now, only saw the NYTimes feature on it and a bunch of other reviews yesterday saying "OK, as we get through all 13 hours..."
― a tidy profit in Russia (Eazy), Saturday, 2 February 2013 16:08 (eleven years ago) link
Man I eat this stuff up.
― bleh (latebloomer), Saturday, 2 February 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
Crits got two episodes.
― Simon H., Saturday, 2 February 2013 18:14 (eleven years ago) link
Was wondering about this, too. Everyone will be watching on their own schedule.
― jaymc, Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
I'd say just establish a date when this thread goes from no-spoilers to full-season spoilers. Or start a spoilers thread. Either one?
I plan on watching 3-13 in the next couple days, personally.
― Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Saturday, 2 February 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
Really enjoyed the first ep. NYTimes review got this one all wrong.
― calstars, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:00 (eleven years ago) link
I'm 3 in and enjoying it if not exactly convinced of where it's going. Felt a huge difference between Fincher and James Foley.
― Gukbe, Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:04 (eleven years ago) link
aw dang, they switch fincher out? i'm in the second ep and was getting so psyched for a 13-hour fincher movie
― j., Sunday, 3 February 2013 03:39 (eleven years ago) link
Foley directs a few, some other guy I can't remember, and...Joel Schumacher...
― Gukbe, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:28 (eleven years ago) link
uhhhh
― j., Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
That was my reaction
― Gukbe, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:33 (eleven years ago) link
The cinematographer is the same, so the palette remains but Fincher is too idiosyncratic to not notice the difference.
― Gukbe, Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:35 (eleven years ago) link
Not a spoiler, but episode 3 deals with the infamous Peachoid of Gaffney, South Carolina. Never expected to see that.
― The Mini-Mamas and the Mini-Papas (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 04:47 (eleven years ago) link
Ok so 2 eps in I think the show is really good but I am also worried abt it being tooooooo cynical and cold hearted. Like both spacey And robin wright ex-penn are super Machiavellian manipulative archetypes and they're married and for some reason have this weird routine where she puts out his cigarette. Like Kate Mara is obv the ellen parsons character but
― jaymc, Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:21 (eleven years ago) link
When I get through with u
― jaymc, Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:22 (eleven years ago) link
friend who loved the original hating this one so far.
― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Sunday, 3 February 2013 06:59 (eleven years ago) link
you… owe… i…
― j., Sunday, 3 February 2013 07:47 (eleven years ago) link
2 eps in and it is super cold. Also somewhat simple. Like they keep referring to this bill as simply "education". Hey prez, what bill are you going to try to push through first? Will it be FOREIGN POLICY, DRUGS, or EDUCATION?
People don't talk about politics like that. It nags at me.
― big firework, Sunday, 3 February 2013 08:14 (eleven years ago) link
later on they start calling it by name occasionally.
super cold is awesome. this is p. dope. all-at-once release is kind of a weird experience though. i expect it to get less talked up than a 'normal' show.
― j., Sunday, 3 February 2013 08:15 (eleven years ago) link
I loved the first & 2 episodes in this one is nearly as good. Spacey is great. Maybe the Foley episodes will change my mind.
IIRC in the early stages of its existence the healthcare reform bill was mostly just referred to as... "Healthcare reform." Meanwhile now Obama is working on... "immigration." There's a lot that feels wrong or off abt its depiction of politics (and even more of journalism) but that's not one imo
― max, Sunday, 3 February 2013 12:32 (eleven years ago) link
"The first" = the original series
bit ~on the nose~ in places but that's maybe to be expected
ploughed through the first two epis; on board for now at least
― do you even frogbs? (cozen), Sunday, 3 February 2013 14:58 (eleven years ago) link
the Gaffney, SC stuff is kind of lol. Spacey's accent not very Gaffney at ALL.
― The Mini-Mamas and the Mini-Papas (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
he's good though!
reined in spacey is best spacey. the boiling underneath spacey. fell asleep watching the first one last night but will resume tonight. i hope they had lots and lots of creative meetings about the whole turning to the camera thing. could definitely do without it. a voiceover would have been enough.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:17 (eleven years ago) link
Like the turning to the camera thing. Very Richie III
― Gukbe, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
Or maybe Lovejoy. Either way!
yeah, there are some parts where it works and others not so much
― The Mini-Mamas and the Mini-Papas (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:18 (eleven years ago) link
it takes me out of things. i'm easily jarred/distracted though.
― scott seward, Sunday, 3 February 2013 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
i totally dig the turn-to-the-camera but i maybe im used to it from the og series
― max, Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't seen this remake altho i totes will but yeah i generally like turning to the camera fine because of, yes, richard 3
― a permanent mental health break (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
think spacey was a good idea
― a permanent mental health break (difficult listening hour), Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
it's used p gratuitously though - like there's a speech in which a turn to the camera aside is used as an intercut midway through & you sorta wonder what it is it's meant to be undercutting, whether they've built up a setting just to facilitate it being undermined. & there's still something about spacey's voice that makes those asides seem pretty clunky, like they have the exact same formula of syrupy inflection & downhome idiom every time.
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
whether they've built up a setting just to facilitate it being undermined
well... yeah? i mean what else are they gonna undermine, its not a documentary
― max, Sunday, 3 February 2013 18:53 (eleven years ago) link
sure. but I just mean that there's a kinda limit to many sassy asides we need given that they're part of the same structure as everything else, ie spacey implicitly acting tactically & in a mischievous way elsewhere. if they only serve to remind you of the guy's machiavellian streak that's fine, they do their job, but there are times at which it's hammering one note a little too hard, like we don't need so much blunt exposition. this isn't a big criticism, anyway, i am down with yeah, there are some parts where it works and others not so much
― schlump, Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:07 (eleven years ago) link
spacey's accent sucks
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
It's bad but he's good in the role so it doesn't distract me much. I'm used to terrible phoney-baloney southern accents at this point.
― The Mini-Mamas and the Mini-Papas (latebloomer), Sunday, 3 February 2013 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
besides the streak i think they need the asides to remind you of the plan - after a while it can be not too obvious that this is somehow all designed to be a grand plan to fuck the president or someone over in some complicated unspecified way.
― j., Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:17 (eleven years ago) link
how poorly cast does the president dude seem
it's like a bizarro world where jon huntsman won
― iatee, Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
first ep made this seem decidedly duff
― conrad, Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
Is that good?
― Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link
is duff good
― conrad, Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
no not really
― conrad, Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link
Spacey is a terrible actor and this got off to a slow start but once the intrigue got going I was hooked.
― wk, Sunday, 3 February 2013 21:55 (eleven years ago) link