itt blogs instruct you how to be a man

it's more of a difference on why it's awful

on a different twitter account than your elmo one?

https://twitter.com/acontinuouslean/status/297432033624481792

lmao

haha how did it take so long for him to get to the "they are just douchebags" conclusion am a limited medium like Twitter

I like that the guy prodding him keeps going on about masculinity when it wasn't mentioned before he brought it up

first sign of trouble was the name "a continuous lean"

is there a single thing using the "a <adjective> <noun>" structure that's not douchey

mh, I believe the prodder is elmo

that camping expedition looks suspiciously like a matchmaking service for aspiring bros to meet other aspiring bros and hopefully join together in newfound brohood.

brb, registering the twitter handle apoppedmolly

my masculinity spirit guide is a queer trans guy I knew in college briefly; I once told him this on twitter and one of the tips he gave me was "embrace flaccidity" which just seemed so perfect to me.

<3 back elmo btw

hahahaha kudos, elmo

elmo why you gotta make everything about masculinity

(kudos)

"please go thrift for a clue" hoooooooooooooo boy

i am indeed the prodder

and yeah i do get fixated on masculinity, it's true, eg this thread

Elmo zing him back using "Americana keychains"

http://www.acontinuouslean.com/2010/01/07/the-acl-hotel-motel/

I'm envisioning the group of men on this wilderness thing and the readers of "a continuous lean" on a venn diagram right now

and "bizarre attitudes about masculinity" is kind of a third bubble

haha awesome xp

ALL Antiquated Masculinity Models, $1

^^^^TREAUSRE TROVE

feel like some people just want some kind of larger justification to be pompous bullies. hey look! manliness can help w/ that too!

when i sent the gawker link to my ex-evangelical friend, he immediately replied with "it's christian."

and i really wouldnt be surprised if it was, kony-style

i really did enjoy that his initial response was to call me out on my taste level, because THAT'S not elitist or anything

when i sent the gawker link to my ex-evangelical friend, he immediately replied with "it's christian."

*eyes widen in terror*

i think your boy might be on to something

and i saw this as a kid who was dragged to a PROMISE KEEPER'S SUMMIT as a young teen

say*

no joke the first thing i thought was how similar the tone was to the #KONY video

haha, I can't post now, because I was about to name-check PROMISE KEEPERS too

my promise keepers experience involved me quietly doing my latin homework while surrounded by thousands of emotional christian men at a baseball stadium

been kind of turning it over in my mind whether the ACL guy, "authenticity" sins aside, really is linking himself to a brand or vision of masculinity by espousing his ideas on style above others. even if he thinks he's just cultivating a particular aesthetic, it's one that leans heavily on traditional staples of masculine signifiers, in that it's a combination of a traditional workwear aesthetic and the most staple traditional pieces of western male clothing, the suit, pants, dress shirt, etc.

kind of disingenous to act as if he's not a sort of arbiter of masculinity

If the French press breaks does this turn into some Lord of the Flies shit?

when i sent the gawker link to my ex-evangelical friend, he immediately replied with "it's christian."

yes! i am christian and thought the same about this video. the awkward earnestness and like deep desire for brotherhood or w/e is such a hallmark of contemporary christian culture. it's so cheesy. they even use christian buzzwords a lot too. i heard "intentional" come up so many times in the video and christians looooove saying that.

that being said though i certainly know a lot of deeply secular artisan-males who would give a nut to go on this dumb trip. the "deeply secular artisan-male" is kind of the dominant species in my city of vancouver

mh i think you've articulated exactly what was bothering me, I think it's nearly possible to articulate a sense of men's style without implicitly speaking about masculinity

impossible, I mean

full disclosure, this is what i make coffee with when i camp:

http://www.rei.com/product/726094/msr-mugmate-coffeetea-filter

http://i.imgur.com/8ioI2lS.png

if the coffee comes out too strong, you just water it down some, if its to week, add some more grounds and let it steep longer, fuck it: you're camping

weak*

on one hand i do understand this sort of 'movement', which seems to come from a weirdly desperate place of feeling disconnected from (insert a signifier of the ascetic rustic life here). feel like a lot of dudes around me are filled w/that kind of discontent, so you get these 180s into weird shirtless forest folk brodowns. on the other hand i don't understand the obsession w/pure masculinity.

I, for one, welcome more women wearing these articles of clothing

also i hope i wasn't the only one who lolled at the line "8000 feet above the sea"

al leong otm

camping rules and its very good for the modern soul to get in to nature for a while, but that goes for women too imo

omg @ artisan-male

camping can be so fun and chill, you can remind yourself you're an animal dependent on the planet bla bla too if you want

on the subject of like outdoor sport and gender i think this looks really good:

http://www.oskusoft.com/osku/books/pics/592.jpg

there are different levels of camping! I wouldn't mind doing what these guys did, but it's about a half-step more roughing it than the people who have a RV and bring along their ATV to screw around with during the day. Not like they carried their gear and food on their motorcycles or anything.

what gender are you thinking of there, matty

hahahahaha

http://www.lynnhillclimbing.com/ImageContent/climbing_free.jpg

ya this shit is definitely christian. we found a connection somewhere, some bible verse in a twitter profile, not sure why it didnt make it to the finished article

SEE ALSO secret mormon mag kinfolk

oh rad

we should have a new thread

"Artisan" as perjorative.