so so i just started doing this paleo diet thing - feels like it should be bullshit. is it?

anybody find that this is just too much meat all the time? i'm going to be trying to flip the meat/vegetable ratio a bit.

yeah at xmas my family was excitedly talking about quinoa a bunch and i had to drop the quinoa bomb on them

I'm going to start this officially on Monday for at least 30 days. Have been sort of heading towards it since Christmas but wanted to get more settled into the semester / be done with traveling.

Of course this week has been spent eating granola, the rest of the yogurt, rice, pizza from the new and only decent pizza place around, toast for breakfast, etc.

i'm doing a less strict thing where i still eat beans, which helps a lot w/ variety and preventing meat fatigue

eggplant is a good meat substitute too imo

I generally eat only 4-6 oz meat/egg per meal with a massive amount of veg, which seems about right for me.

been lurking here and trying this out without getting too strict. loving it! i always thought i was hopeless in the kitchen, but i'm keeping it simple and doing just fine.

i'm losing weight too, even though that's not what i'm going for at all. it's mostly because my appetite isn't as voracious as usual, but i also inevitably get a little lazy about preparing meals and just go without or settle for a smaller meal of leftovers.

I'm still doing this. I've fucked the exercise and have been sedentary for the last four weeks :(

The way I keep up with veggies is to make a two big veggie dishes a day and then eat them for several days as leftovers. On any given meal I'll have about four of: baked kale, savoy cabbage coleslaw, collard greens and tomatoes, grated carrot salad, turmeric roasted cauliflower, baked broccoli, spinach salad, cucumber salad, celery soup, red cabbage in a pot with vinegar, etc.

I've been relying more heavily on restaurant food than I should be, at times, but have done a p good job of finding decent paleo friendly stuff to order (e.g. big salad with pork from Chipotle for work lunch). I don't think I could keep on it otherwise.

I use this thread for variety/food inspiration and out of curiosity about ppl and their foods, but I have to say, for the past two weeks I've barely been home one night a week--many days I'm only in my apartment for 2 or 3 hours a day (that I'm not sleeping)--and there is NO WAY to keep up with a diet that can't be picked up in Midtown.

xp haha yes!

For recipe recommendations I usually buy a big bag of [some nice looking veg] and then google "best kohlrabi ever!" and see what happens

"Best swiss chard ever" and "best broccoli ever" produced some fantastic recipes, might I add:

http://sainttigerlily.blogspot.ca/2011/01/best-swiss-chard-recipeever.html

http://www.amateurgourmet.com/2008/11/the_best_brocco.html

(That swiss chard takes a while though, I watched the entirety of Wayne's World while preparing it)

i actually don't eat that much meat. For breakfast I just have executive coffee, a salad at lunch (with SOME meat), and then dinner is sometimes meat, sometimes not. The other day I just had sauteed portobello mushrooms with avocado and creme fraiche.

This week though I have been incredibly distracted and skipped a few meals... which really bumped up the weight loss! I guess IF is a good idea for me.

I really want to try that butter coffee thing. I'm v curious

i don't see myself eating any other way again. this works just too great for me.

Survived 3 days of a tradeshow - lots of intermittent fasting, took a can of coconut milk along for coffee, brought some Paleokits for snacks/breakfast and the last Larabar we had in the house, plus a small container of coconut butter buttons. The hotel restaurant had a good cobb salad and also plain olive oil and red wine vinegar for dressing.

The hardest thing - not having wine with the rest of the table; it smelled sooo good. Since we just finished a second whole30, I think a glass or two of something alcoholic/week will be added back in first.

maria and i have been going on and off the paleo wagon. but even off we seem to be making more healthy choices now. we are back on now. i just have to keep reminding myself how great i felt in those initial weeks of doing it. and i have kept the weight off that i lost. consistently 15 pounds lighter than when i started this last year.

big problem was buying snacks/dessert/non-paleo stuff for the kida and then...eating that stuff. so, just buying less of that stuff and making the kids eat some damn fruit. it helps that cyrus is addicted to seaweed snacks and i don't want any of that.

Not having stuff we aren't eating around has really helped. I cleared a lot of it out during the first week of January, stored the things that will keep, pitched out opened stuff, etc. Out of sight out of mind is working for the moment.

why is wine not paleo? I feel like all these odd prohibitions would add up to some very popular and lucrative paleo variations. (paleo + potatos, etc...)

in the stricter versions of paleo all alcohol is out, period. wine is more paleo than beer though (especially if it's dry & not sweet)

It's just not on the Whole30, which is more of a low inflammation diet than most other paleo.

whole30 is also no sweeteners, period. Where most other paleo is okay with honey/maple syrup, that kind of thing.

i actually brought a jar of really good local honey to the store in case i have a craving for sweets in the afternoon. which is usually when i start craving sweets. i figure a quick spoonful as needed and i'm back on track.

for real though one spoonful of raw deerfield wildflower honey and all thoughts of a snickers bar disappear.

Snickers bars are my office bete noire, too. :( Because they have them in our vending machine, mostly. Today though I am having a pear!

Dry ciders are popular with paleo folks too

my vending machine actually has one paleo snack: plantain chips

I said from the start I wasn't gonna quit drinking but if I have a couple beers I feel like I lose most of the benefits. so mostly been sticking to red wine.

Ooh, dry cider - that's on for tonight then. I've been buying the Inka plantain chips occasionally. They're tasty and nicely crunchy and might be good to dip in guacamole.

I haven't really been drinking, but last weekend I did have a few glasses of veuve clicquot, because I couldn't resist

I am off sweeteners all together, too. Even stevia.

I fuck with beer.

hey so despite eating 80% of my calories from fat, my cholesterol numbers look pretty awesome!

pleased about this

Nuked a jar of coconut manna for 45 sec, stirred in 1/2 tsp of vanilla, 1 tbsp cocoa powder, a little salt. Poured out onto parchment paper and put in the fridge until set (turns matte-finish). Used a pizza cutter at first, but then just broke it up. Delicious! Second batch is just vanilla flavored, poured over apple juice infused dried cranberries (from Steve's Original), lightly sprinkled with salt - cooling down now.

so despite being paleo and eating a lot of red meat and stuff, I am anemic. this is worrisome.

oh no :/

Does that mean taking iron pills, or something else?

doc thinks celiac possibly

and yeah, iron supplements. unless I am celiac, in which case I might have to get iron shots.

:-( I hope you find out soon that it's not.

If you're on the paleo diet, maybe I don't understand but aren't you NOT eating wheat??

Pardon to interrupt the gnawing and grunting, but I was impressed by the committment bordering on obsession required to put together this dense 9 1/2 hour jeremiad against paleo.

Livestrong has this to say about paleo and anemia:

Avoiding grains without making up for the B vitamin lack in other ways could lead to serious B vitamin deficiencies. B vitamin deficiencies can lead to skin issues, anemia and poor oral health. If you choose the Paleo diet, consider supplementing with a multivitamin supplement that contains 100 percent of your daily value of B vitamins.

Here they're talking mostly about B6, B9, and B12. Heavy meat eaters are likely getting plenty of B12, but B6 (pyridoxine) and B9 (folate) might present problems.
Note the synthetic folic acid in supplements isn't biologically equivalent to the folate from greens (it was recently discovered we lack the enzyme that allows rats to interconvert the two) and folic acid has raised a lot of concerns WRT carcinogenesis. Then again, iron supplementation has some serious side effects, too. This handy site of food high in vitamins might be of help for dietary sources of yer Bs.

oh, I suspect I've been anemic for a while. I've been a chronic ice chewer/eater for like 3 years, so it's been at least that long (long before I was paleo)

eat liver!

I am not eating wheat, no. But I guess the villi in your intestines can take up to 18 months to be repaired for proper absorption!

and yeah, I've been frying chicken livers and eating a few of those a day.

Did not see a Mediterranean Diet thread so:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/pour-on-the-olive-oil-big-study-finds-mediterranean-style-diet-cuts-heart-attack-stroke-risk/2013/02/25/8b83f40e-7f3f-11e2-a671-0307392de8de_story.html?hpid=z3

Mediterranean meant lots of fruit, fish, chicken, beans, tomato sauce, salads, and wine and little baked goods and pastries

Two followed a Mediterranean diet supplemented with either extra-virgin olive oil (4 tablespoons a day) or with walnuts, hazelnuts and almonds (a fistful a day).

article lost me after the ancel keys mention

It's like waving a red flag at a bull.

xp:
BTW, its probably not the olive oil, which is just as atherogenic as saturated fat in animal studies, worse than fish or canola in endothelial function, and offered hardly any effect on mortality (in a multiple regression model) in the big recent Greek study (see table 2).

Present Greeks eat plenty of olive oil, and have the highest obesity, diabetes and hypertension in the EU. Most of the benefits seen my Keyes et al, especially in Crete, appear to have been from WWII and just post-war dietary pattern, when people were poor, walked miles every day, and ate mostly bread, home-grown lentils/vegetables/fruit, and fish, and couldn't afford olive oil or red meat on a regular basis.

Oops, I meant table 3 in the 2003 NEJM study.

yeah it's mostly bullshit