indefensible: john gruber

not that i think its a particularly important point but the retina display way predates windows 8

not sure what we're supposed to do if we eliminate all skeumorphism, besides just everything looking like flat squares, who actually wants that

Most UIs aren't that skeumorphic! There aren't really that many real life items with drop-down menus and shit.

Windows 8 probably a mediocre reference point here, but I feel like saying creative iOS developers own "flatness" is kind of wrong-headed.

Windows 8 prerelease 1 did come out a month before iPhone 4S, though.

ya I mean 'flat design' has been around forever really and its kinda an imprecise distinction, the thing I found intersting abt the piece is the observation that hi def screens allow for more sophisticated design

also iirc the iPhone 4 was the 1st one w retina

Oh, yeah

His argument is basically "we can have games with helvetica that look like they're printed paper"

if u can make software that looks like its printed thats a huge difference!

^^^ the point abt "you don't see high-gloss reflection w/drop shadows and textures in print" is a good one.

gotta say tho I have decided that Ikea's corporate identity switch to Verdana was an inspired move. Futura was too far on the "aspirational" end of the scale. Verdana may be an odd choice but it's a pretty good one when you're at the store seeing it in context.

wank wank remove bookmark from thread u grubers

this is his worst post

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/02/15/posterous

ever

p.s. jh0 otm that skeuomorphism piece was good, although it reminded me of this: indefensible: john gruber

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kihlbom/8483283129/in/set-72157632789034693/

the first sentence of this interview of marco on the brooks report reads like it was written by a 12 year old:

One thing that has really been on my mind lately is how publishing is changing.

In conclusion, publishing is in a time of great change.

Ever since the beginning of time, man has wondered about how publishing is changing.

Another thing I thought was interesting about publishing was how it is changing.

ha. sentence 2:

Many think it is a bit crazy that I went with a paywall, but even more crazy is that I was thinking of shutting down the site as it is and doing a periodical on the iPad instead (cooler heads prevailed).

i think it's crazy you expect people to pay for sentences written like this, yes.

http://www.muleradio.net/newdisruptors/14/

what

http://www.flickr.com/photos/kihlbom/8483283129/in/set-72157632789034693

love that pic

http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/04/02/finding-dory

congratulations to the tories

https://twitter.com/gruber/status/319162801564307456

TS: "congratulations to the tories" vs. "is that like fanboy but also gay?"

god

can we try to do something so ben brooks talks about us again

haha

i love it when that deep vein of conservatism that runs through everything he writes bubbles up

ya like when he goes off on how america doesnt need unions anymore smh

what is the deep vien of conservatism, that he likes the incredibles

i'm down with the kind of conservatism that avoids sequels but that means no iphone 5s, 6 etc...

i mean small c conservatism

http://brooksreview.net/2012/12/unions/

like i feel his extreme aesthetic conservatism is part of a more general cultural conservatism

jesus fucking christ

p much

i dont know why i ever had that guy in my RSS reader but when i dumped him and some other gruberhead dittoheads (kept the main guy tho) i felt like my life had noticeably improved

Gruber spends way too much time calling out people who say dumb shit about apple, not enough time rumor-mongering.

i still read him all the time he is horrible but there are lots of good links on there and he even writes good stuff occasionally and i even like the claim chowder because im into predictions and its fun to see old ones

ya thats me basically haha

i only read when he is linked from other places, and it's usually pretty good. who's a less horrible gruber, though, so i can read that instead?

marco

lol basically

yeah joe otm.

https://twitter.com/garyvee/status/324346308196450305

hahahaha

how the hell is jon gruber a verified account

no idea but my guess is that a lot of people at twitter know who he is