In distant last place came the ground coffee I had brought, a very good quality, single-estate bean, but not roasted for espresso and ground four days earlieri mean COME ON
― max, Friday, January 11, 2013 7:20 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
four days is an eternity in ground coffee time. plus they dont say how they kept it -- vacuum sealed? in a freezer? also not roasted for espresso and ground "too coarsely" for the machine
― max, Friday, January 11, 2013 7:22 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
this. I mean the "ground too coarsely" alone is a really, really big reason why the espresso probably tasted bad, maybe even moreso than the non-freshness. Like why don't you just stick the whole beans right in the portafilter dude, the whole point is to grind it ulrafine and pack it tight to create resistance so the pressure causes the water to extract more.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Saturday, 12 January 2013 04:50 (eleven years ago) link
thinking a lot about privilege and the perceived "quality" of labor
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 January 2013 17:07 (eleven years ago) link
i think there is something i want to say about it that relates to hourly wages vs. piecework but i'm not sure what it is
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 January 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
perception that the laborer is white and lives in north brooklyn
― © all the feelings (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 25 January 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
well yes
― fueled by satanism, violence, and sodomy (elmo argonaut), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
It's an interesting question, though, because the object and the it's context can create a perception of quality of labor that has no bearing on how it was actually produced. But the perception is important to the brand.
This idea that I own an object that was created by someone who cares as much or more about the object than I do. Same goes for services.
― © all the feelings (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 25 January 2013 18:12 (eleven years ago) link
http://gawker.com/5980261/artisanal-manliness-for-fun-and-profit
― s.clover, Friday, 1 February 2013 03:38 (eleven years ago) link
good crossover with the blogs instruct you how to be a man thread
― Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Friday, 1 February 2013 03:52 (eleven years ago) link
late capitalism is all about bourgeois folks paying a premium for "experiences" with an aura of authenticity
― Women, Fire, and Dangerous Zings (silby), Friday, 1 February 2013 03:53 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, that's pretty much ridiculous. However, if you strip away the narration and the price tag, looks like a fun camping trip.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Friday, 1 February 2013 04:30 (eleven years ago) link
funny article. French presses are great for camping, though.
― beard papa, Friday, 1 February 2013 05:40 (eleven years ago) link
artisanal manliness doesn't seem to involve individuality
― koogs, Friday, 1 February 2013 09:49 (eleven years ago) link
I bring a french press AND fancy cheese
― © all the feelings (Austerity Ponies), Friday, 1 February 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
i swear the nyt food section editors must have decided to make a push on 'country ham' (vs 'city ham'), these are only two of the stories i've seen it in recently
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/20/dining/picking-a-flavorful-easter-ham.html?hpwhttp://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/24/magazine/mark-bittman-and-sam-siftons-east-over-feast.html?hpw
If it all sounds unappetizing, be assured that the country’s best hams — from producers committed to real wood smoke, pure maple syrup and pasture-raised pigs — are worth seeking out.
― j., Saturday, 23 March 2013 02:51 (eleven years ago) link
pasture raised, feh, the best pigs are forest-finished
― my god i only have 2 useless beyblade (silby), Saturday, 23 March 2013 03:33 (eleven years ago) link
obv. wood is more artisanal than grass
― j., Saturday, 23 March 2013 03:37 (eleven years ago) link
the best ham comes from pigs who are actual pipe smokers, tbh
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Saturday, 23 March 2013 03:41 (eleven years ago) link
We went looking for spring, Mark and I, down in Charleston, S.C., a stunning city, rich with history both sad and ecstatic, in a region that offers a tremendous bounty of fresh ingredients and regional flavors.
Mmm yes hello I am Garrison Keillor.
― open the blood gates (elmo argonaut), Saturday, 23 March 2013 03:47 (eleven years ago) link
Acorn-fed pork for real
― ☠ ☃ ☠ (mh), Saturday, 23 March 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
i didn't know that france had notoriously bad coffee. huh. you learn something new every day. you'd think it would be fancy coffee.
craftsmanship-wise, my sister in law/bro in law have this hand grinder and it takes like an hour to grind coffee beans and it kinda drives me up a wall and then they have this science-lab coffee-maker that goes on their stove-top and it makes like a cup and a half of coffee and it takes an hour to make and by then i really want to jump out a window. other than that i like staying with them okay. though my sis in law is a demon in the morning and i try to avoid her entirely until she is awake. i always seem to be in the exact wrong spot in the morning and she has to get around me and i'm afraid she will slit my throat. but i'm just hanging around waiting for coffee! seriously thinking of bringing coffee and a mr. coffee-maker and just putting it in the room we sleep in and not leaving the room until noon next time we visit.
― scott seward, Saturday, 23 March 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
sorry, i'm late to the coffee talk. i like ham.
― scott seward, Saturday, 23 March 2013 18:28 (eleven years ago) link
Shes like a demon because she has to get up at five if she wants coffee at eight, you should coffeesplain a few things to her
― mister borges (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 March 2013 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
Sit her down, say arent u sick of the daily grind, i find a lil joke at the start of some real talk really opens ppl up to my wisdom /poppins
― mister borges (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 March 2013 18:55 (eleven years ago) link
I support whatever gets people through the morning with the least amount of suffering. Also sometimes I just have tea because the time it takes to grind beans, boil water, and wait for the french press to steep is sometimes too much.
― lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Saturday, 23 March 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i think the thing is they aren't coffee addicts. they make it for us mostly. and they try to tell me that the grinder is like the greatest hand grinder in the world and i think not if i kill one of you it isn't.
― scott seward, Saturday, 23 March 2013 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
i love them though. they are the greatest. and they introduced me to the wonder that is my fave restaurant in nyc Prune (twice!) and for that i will be forever in their debt.
― scott seward, Saturday, 23 March 2013 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
and i think not if i kill one of you it isn't.
This is like a thought I would have! <3
― lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Saturday, 23 March 2013 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
Craftmanship, quality and MURDER
― mister borges (darraghmac), Saturday, 23 March 2013 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
prune is great.
― s.clover, Monday, 25 March 2013 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
hand-dried prunes
― Woody Ellen (Matt P), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
air-wrinkled dates
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
individually stoned dates, man those were the daze
― mister borges (darraghmac), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:15 (eleven years ago) link
― scott seward, Saturday, March 23, 2013 2:20 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
People who expend the greatest amounts of effort to avoid using the smallest amounts of electricity (unless they are legit committed to some kind of off-the-grid lifestyle) = disgusting savages imo.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:33 (eleven years ago) link
I think those things are usually about coffee snobbery rather than electricity savings.
I've been thinking about getting an Aeropress. $20 plus a washable filter, I only envision drinking a cup in the morning so nbd about the time/amount.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link
I don't get the "coffee snobbery" of using a hand mill versus an electric burr grinder though - I can think of no plausible reason why a hand mill would make things come out better, unless you're worried about generating heat, in which case, just pulse the burr grinder or don't run it for too long.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
yeah there is literally no coffee snob who would prefer a hand mill to an electric burr grinder... even one of those zassenhaus ones
― 乒乓, Monday, 25 March 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
bringing my aeropress and hand grinder to iceland for a campervan road trip in may, equally embarrassed/excited
― max, Monday, 25 March 2013 16:43 (eleven years ago) link
I don't know, mine is a burr grinder (according to the internet--it was a gift) and it makes the most godawful noise, it's literally the very last thing I want to hear in the morning. Whereas my mom's antique hand grinder just does a charming low grrrrrrrr when you crank it. Makes me nostalgic.
― lets just remember to blame the patriarchy for (in orbit), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
I hand grind my beans every morning with a little Hario grinder. I use it because it is portable and I can't afford a nice electric burr grinder. It only takes about 2 minutes, and isn't very physically taxing, but people at work still think I am some kind of crazy homesteader or something. I guess it's weird to actually using my muscles to do something when I can just stick my delicious fair trade beans in some shitty loud-ass, uneven grinding, impossible-to-clean, blade grinder - or better yet using the ground stuff they keep in the kitchen.
― poopdeck pappy (beard papa), Monday, 25 March 2013 16:58 (eleven years ago) link
yeah a hand burr grinder is way way way better than an electric blade
― 乒乓, Monday, 25 March 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
I guess, but those harios are also vastly inferior to even cheaper electric burr -- I could never get mine to tighten/lock well enough to get the grind I wanted, and it wasn't as even a grind either.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:00 (eleven years ago) link
I mean the Capresso model does the job and it runs like $80-90? Which I can see being expensive for something for work use, although I just chipped in with a couple co-workers.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
i wouldn't say they're vastly inferior if you're doing pourover - you get a few big chunks yeah but the grind is fairly even. of course its not gonna be as good as an electic burr but those start at $100 and are big and not portable and can't be used in the howling hinterlands of the frozen tundra.
― 乒乓, Monday, 25 March 2013 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
cant believe hurting wants me to take an electric burr grinder to iceland
― max, Monday, 25 March 2013 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
ive always had a bit of a craftsmanship, consumerism, virtue, privilege and quality boner for a zassenhaus though. but theyre so heavy and for what they cost yeah u should probably get a capresso
http://i.imgur.com/XwVEX5Z.jpg
― 乒乓, Monday, 25 March 2013 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
I have used hario and capresso back to back for pour-over and I find the capresso to be a massive improvement. I found even the finest grind from the hario to be too coarse, aside from being uneven (which is less of an issue in pour-over).
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
god i can't even.. blade grinders are fine, f u all
― Woody Ellen (Matt P), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
for drip coffee they really are. I think I'd rather have a finer but more uneven grind rather than one that was too coarse.
― space phwoar (Hurting 2), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
capresso burr grinder forever
scott I'm pretty sure I would murder your relatives
mr veg always talks about getting a pavoni manual espresso maker and I'm like fuck you I'm not handcranking my goddamn coffee you maniac
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 25 March 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
this is cheap for an electric burr and i guess pretty ok? http://www.amazon.com/Cuisinart-DBM-8-Supreme-Grind-Automatic/dp/B00018RRRK
― s.clover, Monday, 25 March 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link