I loved this exchange:
Schrader mentioned that he was still trying to cast a psychiatrist, a small but pivotal role.
“I called Jeff Goldblum and Willem Dafoe. They’re not available. So, any ideas?”
Lohan squealed and said, “How about Jared?”
Schrader nodded approvingly.
“Jared Harris?”
“No, Jared Leto.”
― Solange and thanks for all the fish (Nicole), Thursday, 10 January 2013 19:23 (thirteen years ago)
I wasn't surprised LiLo and Schrader are broke, but what did Bret Easton Ellis do with all his money? (Never mind, I can guess.)
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 10 January 2013 19:30 (thirteen years ago)
you think the energy for twitter beefs with deceased authors just comes from nowhere?
― j., Thursday, 10 January 2013 19:40 (thirteen years ago)
i actually feel like it's kind of wrong for NYT to play up Lohan in the headline when her presence is only like the 5th most batshit aspect of the entire story
― captain keefaroo (some dude), Thursday, 10 January 2013 20:02 (thirteen years ago)
Parts of it reminded me of Bowfinger. Like the sneaking-into-the-mall.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 10 January 2013 20:12 (thirteen years ago)
hahaha YES
― captain keefaroo (some dude), Thursday, 10 January 2013 20:14 (thirteen years ago)
omg Bowfinger. too true, and awesome. great article.
the bit about the soda ad - that's why people give a shit about her.
― surm, Thursday, 10 January 2013 20:14 (thirteen years ago)
I haven't watched Bowfinger in the longest time, I need to watch it again.
― Solange and thanks for all the fish (Nicole), Thursday, 10 January 2013 20:15 (thirteen years ago)
still has me on the floor laughing that one
― surm, Thursday, 10 January 2013 20:20 (thirteen years ago)
Bofinger is great!
― Canaille help you (Michael White), Thursday, 10 January 2013 20:24 (thirteen years ago)
Meanwhile, Ellis, Pope and Schrader battled over the film’s final cut. Pope screened a rough cut of “The Canyons” for Steven Soderbergh. Intrigued, Soderbergh offered to do an edit of the movie if he was given the footage for 72 hours.
Schrader said no.
Ah well...
― Chief Duff (Eazy), Thursday, 10 January 2013 20:48 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.indiewire.com/static/dims4/INDIEWIRE/434322b/4102462740/thumbnail/680x478/http://d1oi7t5trwfj5d.cloudfront.net/2e/4b4ad05b4a11e2b13b22000a1d0930/file/lindsay-lohan-paul-schrader-thecanyons.jpg
― Chief Duff (Eazy), Thursday, 10 January 2013 20:52 (thirteen years ago)
lols @ 'Lady Gaga flu'
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 January 2013 20:52 (thirteen years ago)
I love him for seeing something in her. God knows we all do itt
*sigh*
amazing photo
― surm, Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:00 (thirteen years ago)
He should have said yes to Soderbergh, if only to see what became of it.
― Canaille help you (Michael White), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:10 (thirteen years ago)
eh considering how much he bent over backwards to make a movie where no studio or actor could have any control of the final product, it makes sense that he'd pass on that
― trey songza (some dude), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:11 (thirteen years ago)
does anyone think that this movie is going to be anything more than a curio? the parts where the writer praised scenes kinda came off as BS (tho not intentional) to me
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:12 (thirteen years ago)
well everything can't be an eagerly anticipated masterpiece like Spring Breakers
― trey songza (some dude), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:14 (thirteen years ago)
I will def watch it when it's released, based on this article
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:20 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, as much of a trainwreck as it sounds like, the article is probably the best PR it can get.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:21 (thirteen years ago)
Like, when you watch the orgy scene, now you can picture a naked Paul Schrader behind the camera...
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:22 (thirteen years ago)
i kind of think once an article this entertaining has been written, the movie can only be a companion piece to it as opposed to vice versa
― trey songza (some dude), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:23 (thirteen years ago)
That was an awesome read and otm re Bowfinger
― Yo! MTV La Tengo (Stevie D(eux)), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:26 (thirteen years ago)
As long as colleges still screen movies, there'll be an afterlife. if anyone gets through the first 15 minutes.
― Chief Duff (Eazy), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:27 (thirteen years ago)
I enjoyed that article but have never seen Bowfinger. Now I'm thinking I should.
― go to party leather (ENBB), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:28 (thirteen years ago)
i might put the dvd on tonight i'm getting nostalgic
― surm, Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:29 (thirteen years ago)
bowfinger's awesome
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:29 (thirteen years ago)
it makes sense that he'd pass on that
It doesn't imply anything other than letting him do a cut. If nothing else, he might like some of it and keep it. The whole what-would-soderbergh-say-if-I-asked-to-cut-his-movie thing is just pre-emptive butthurt.
― Canaille help you (Michael White), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:35 (thirteen years ago)
ehh he'd been struggling to get to direct a movie again for years and years, maybe he just didn't want to cede editing to anyone else? could be his favorite part of the process!
― trey songza (some dude), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:37 (thirteen years ago)
i don't think i would take kindly to the offer
and SS would probably drench everything in sepia tones
― surm, Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:37 (thirteen years ago)
it totally makes sense that it would be his response though, since the offer from soderbergh implies that the film isn't very good and schrader has never come across as a guy who is keen on having other people interpret his vision, unless their name is scorsese.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:38 (thirteen years ago)
moody cliff martinez scorefilm a quick cameo by the cloonslightly fractured time structure
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:39 (thirteen years ago)
Man Hollywood is such a fucked up and weird place. I mean, I knew that, but glimpses like this just remind of how different of a world it really is the kinds of egos needed to survive there.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:39 (thirteen years ago)
― trey songza (some dude), Thursday, January 10, 2013 4:14 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark
is this some sort of zing at me? when have i ever given any indication that i care about spring breakers?
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:40 (thirteen years ago)
i am intrigued by spring breakers much for the same reasons that i'm intrigued by the canyons
One of my favorite shots in The Limey looks like it was some kind of light-meter test or something, with Peter Fonda standing on his deck. Imagining Soderbergh coming back with lots of Lindsay drinking soda for the camera and the like (and I'd be there opening day).
― Chief Duff (Eazy), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:41 (thirteen years ago)
Hmm, now I'm wondering if Lohan wouldn't have been great in the Limey
― Canaille help you (Michael White), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:45 (thirteen years ago)
Lohan circa now, that is.
not really a zing on you personally, just was thinking about ilx's attitude towards this trainwreck vs. that trainwreck
― trey songza (some dude), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:46 (thirteen years ago)
I would. What do you have to lose, except your ego? It was already rejected by Sundance, you don't owe Soderbergh anything, not even using a single cut of his in your final release, and you might get some help in what appears to be a pretty slack, at times, 90 minutes.
― Canaille help you (Michael White), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:48 (thirteen years ago)
i care about my ego
that's just me tho
― surm, Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:49 (thirteen years ago)
I care about my money more
― Canaille help you (Michael White), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:50 (thirteen years ago)
of all the decisions Schrader made in this project, is that really one of the more puzzling or objectionable ones by any measure?
― trey songza (some dude), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:51 (thirteen years ago)
also considering what generation he's from and who he's worked with, maybe he just considers Soderbergh a worthwhile person to talk to and consult but not someone he'd shit his pants over working with?
― trey songza (some dude), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:52 (thirteen years ago)
it's also just like . . . why WOULDN'T you be insulted? i think my instinct would be to preserve my sense of personal accomplishment and integrity rather than think about money
if some singer offered to step in front of my microphone and lay down some of my tracks for me i would be . . . pissed
― surm, Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:53 (thirteen years ago)
then again i don't know how movies work, if this stuff happens all the time or not
just speaking personally
― surm, Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:54 (thirteen years ago)
anytime anything gets taken away from you (or even the implication that it could get taken away), ppl get pretty defensive. you have to imagine having worked on something for a long time and then someone who has no involvement w/it offers (or is offered) to change it up.
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:56 (thirteen years ago)
people aren't thinking from the perspective of a lunatic legendary filmmaker who thought it was a good idea to team up with lindsay lohan and bret easton ellis for a micro-budget movie, they're thinking from the perspective of someone who wants to salvage some $$$ from this adventure
― da croupier, Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:57 (thirteen years ago)
if you think about it in creative terms, ie this is something you've created from start to finish, and had your hands in every aspect of its development and realization, showing it to a peer for feedback and having them offer to edit it...I mean, there's no way Shrader says anything but no in this situation, to me at least
If it was something he hated working on and was just a ringer or whatever, that would be different.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 January 2013 21:57 (thirteen years ago)