who are you a stan of?

haha i contributed "a baby" and then noodle vague called me out for keepin it negative

haha max! <3 <3 <3

glad i am not reading that thread

hopefully next year this time cpsc 223

to keep my list updated here r some other people i am stans of:

• donald barthelme
• italo calvino
• umberto eco

I'll need to give this some deep thought. There's a few but I'm not sure which are passing fancies and which are genuine standoms.

Good taste Max. I'm with you on the first two and RS loves Eco.

r.i.p.

I'm gonna echo the Stanning of Woody Allen, but older stuff only. I think he's lost his ear for dialogue to such an extent that his newer stuff is painful to watch (Vicky Christina's sole saving grace is Penélope Cruz) but if someone gets caught up in the Soon-Yi creepiness or actually thinks he's just not funny I have to defend the Woodster. Like, I'm annoyed with that line in Mos Def's Mr. Nigga (off Black on Both Sides which, ironically, I'm a stan for) where Mos accuses him of MOLESTING and marrying his stepdaughter and compares it with Michael Jackson's treatment in the media. The whole issue IS quite problematic, but if you don't like Annie Hall I'm not sure you have a soul.
I'll also stan for:
*The Beatles (although I kind of think everyone who says they weren't great is just being contrarian/reacting to Greatest Band Ever title), but especially the White Album. Should have been one disc?! Fightin words.
*The Office (US version)
*Nas - Illmatic
*Arrested Development
*Juvenile comedies like Dumb and Dumber, Half Baked and the work of Judd Apatow
*Daft Punk
*Don Quijote
*Pedro Almodóvar films

a few things

Fugazi
Douglas Adams
The Upper Peninsula of Michigan

I'm having a hard time coming up with people (other than, uh, Herge) that I've felt this way about over a long period of time. It seems like when I stay obsessed with a particular artist, I either drift toward magnifying their flaws or argument about them altogether.

Wait, there are people who don't like Don Quixote and Illmatic?

max, maybe this was mentioned up thread, but don't you think true stan-dom requires standing up for someone/thing partially discredited or passe? like i know calvino and eco and the like have some detractors but generally they are recognized lit heroes. i feel that being a stan should require a risk of looking foolish or being in bad taste. like norman rockwell or leon uris or stanley kramer somebody like that.

Charles S. Peirce
Terrence Malick
Seinfeld

Wait, there are people who don't like Don Quixote and Illmatic?

Yeah as I was writing my list I realized that much of it was things that nobody really disparages. But I take being a stan to mean that I consider them the greatest thing ever, like those 2 specifically I think are like better writing than Shakespeare

Wait, there are people who don't like Don Quixote and Illmatic?

― i fuck mathematics, Thursday, February 19, 2009 6:17 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i thought the famous thing about don quixote was that it is terribly written.

martin amis: "While clearly an impregnable masterpiece, Don Quixote suffers from one fairly serious flaw – that of outright unreadability."

I finally discovered something I'd stan for, SFIV : ///////////////////

I think other people would have to tell me because they're always bored by hearing it from me.

In which case it would have to be the current British government.

Also Leicester.

i like how some of you guys are saying you're a stan of something which is totally classic stuff

oh hello i am a stan of velvet underground.

xp

And the present (as opposed to The Past).

i thought the famous thing about don quixote was that it is terribly written.

martin amis: "While clearly an impregnable masterpiece, Don Quixote suffers from one fairly serious flaw – that of outright unreadability."

quixote suffers from bad/outdated translations more than most books -- the burton raffel version i have is great, but i can't imagine making it through any of the other versions i've glanced through. it's also a very fun book to read (way more fun than any martin amis book i've ever tried, for one).

never read all that much of it but when i leafed through it one day in my old uni library, in spanish, it seemed decently written, if somewhat archaic, with some pretty funny bits.

i have a beautiful old four-volume copy of this that i am ashamed to say i've never made it all the way through :o

j.d. your burton raffel suggestion is very welcome

of course m.amis is the expert on unreadability

his opinion on don quixote is pure bollocks

the only "problem" with the book is all the diversionary tales, if that's not your thing, and i can see why that would be.

My biggest Stans:
Stereolab - including all bands loosely related like Sea and Cake, Tortoise, High Llamas, Mondade, Immitation Electric Piano, etc.
Rush
Frank Zappa
David Lynch

Lesser-stans:
James Joyce - used to be full-fledged-stan back in High School
NE Pats - can't quote stats and don't have strong knowledge of pre-Drew Bledsoe era
Tove Jansson - was reppin' some Moomins to my in-laws just last night
Love and Rockets comics - both Gilbert and Jaime
Miles Davis - mainly electric period

There are probably many others that I could add to the list, but these are my primary obsessions that I will defend forever.

i am a burgeoning lukas moodysson stan (tho id be surprised if he ever comes up in convo)

a better one might be that i think im a george clooney stan

Battlestar Galactistan

i forgot charles bukowski in my earlier list

william nuschler clark jr

pinball

mars matrix

rita tushingham
dh lawrence
abraham lincoln
charles dickens
greil marcus
herman melville
peter sellers

i'm probably like this for "seinfeld," too.

It turns out I'm a stan of Jackie Wilson!

JRPGs, fantasy novels

Battlestar Galactistan based on horsehoe's definition: "someone who when other people criticize them, you freak out and defend annoyingly and at great length." And now I can't post grumpy screeds against the haterz in the BSG thread because even though they probably knew I was a BSG stan, now they know that I know and they'll never take me seriously again.

Having thought about it some more, I'll also add:

Tina Fey
The Shining

max, maybe this was mentioned up thread, but don't you think true stan-dom requires standing up for someone/thing partially discredited or passe? like i know calvino and eco and the like have some detractors but generally they are recognized lit heroes. i feel that being a stan should require a risk of looking foolish or being in bad taste. like norman rockwell or leon uris or stanley kramer somebody like that.

― velko, Thursday, February 19, 2009 12:37 AM (13 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

yeah i think this is a helpful criterion. but its all contextual anyway--i will stan for calvino at a anti-postmodernist club meeting but in the larger sphere where hes generally accepted as a top-notch writer i guess im more just a "fan"

mashed potatoes

I read calvino's little oulipo essays about how he came up with some stories but they were boring as fuck

he should have just said "I thought of some crazy shit and it got on the page"

B.S. Johnson
The Telescopes

And James Joyce, yeah. Or at least Ulysses and Finnegans Wake.

If we're including the criterion of at least partially discredited, then I still think Joyce counts as I totally stan for him against the charge of literary decadence. I'm such a Johnson stan I got really pissed off reading the mostly-positive Coe biography as it wasn't stating on every page how much he is the best writer in the world ever.

stanimal collective

Murakami
modernist houses
flickr
Betjeman
Hal Hartley
caravans

Scott Walker
Libraries

Kanye, inc. 808s, crazy fashion choices

http://www.vibe.com/vibeverses/

martin amis

alasdair roberts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R46Aue8R_Fc&feature=related
if you listen to this in the dark and it doesn't scare you, even a little bit, you are not my people

this should be "whom are you a stan of"

or maybe "of whom are you a stan"