Quentin Tarantino's Western movie "Django Unchained"

man he really does dress like a 12yo

i think his saying he wants 2 be a talk show host made it click in my mind how much his head looks like charlie roses

ok guys i know QT is an annoying turdbag that dresses like a toddler but i really think that inglourious basterds deserves more credit, if any any other filmmaker made a huge budget tentpole oscarwinning film with movie stars that was 1)mostly subtitled 2)mostly people talking while sitting/standing still 3)ended with hitler and goebbles getting shot in the face, more people would recognize IB for what it is: one of the most formally daring major studio movies ever made, and a bold move for any filmmaker, no matter how powerful they are, and even if you hate it i think you have to tip your hat to it and acknowledge that QT really went out on a limb with it.

i think most people like it?

they do, but he could've very very easily just coasted and adapted elmore leonard for the rest of his life and it's weird to me when ppl dismiss it as the flailings of an attention whore or mindless grindhouse enthusiast when its clearly to me a carefully measured artistic statement

I like it too but he doesn't get credit for intentions.

oh i generally think that, its just that the tone of the criticisms of IB bug me. i don't think "bamboozled" a film by spike lee is an actually good film but i do respect that making such an angry and polemical movie shot on consumer-grade digital camcorders at that stage in his career is a pretty brazen move, and i would criticize it for its artistic failings and wouldn't be like "another dick yank by spike...zzzzzz"

a huge budget tentpole oscarwinning film

you don't know what a tentpole is

or a formally daring major studio movie

fine tentpole was overstepping but c'mon man that movie was formally daring, i know you are number one QT hater on here but you have to admit that it's a weird movie.

not as weird as this formally daring major studio movie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWvX0-fHvRU

i liked IB a lot. his movies still feel like events. don't know how many american directors you can even say that about anymore. david lynch? who else? i don't think scorsese movies are a big deal when they open anymore. but tarantino still gets buzz/excitement from people. years ago lots of people got that buzz. there's nobody left. nobody gets excited about cohen brothers movies or whatever.

Paul Thomas Anderson

and Malick i guess. Though that might not be for much longer

malick used to but he watered down his brand

Christopher Nolan?

not as weird as this formally daring major studio movie

Directed by Richard Rush (The Stunt Man).

i enjoy watching director quentin tanatanos movies why because they are fun to watch the end

And, yeah: Lynch, PT Anderson, and Tarantino are the only big directors whose films I get excited about. I try to still feel that way about Woody Allen but it just doesn't work anymore.

Definitely felt that way about Altman, too (RIP).

Michael Mann, despite Public Enemies.

i know you are number one QT hater on here but you have to admit that it's a weird movie.

that would require seeing the movie, which he hasn't

someone had to replace momus. morbz more than up to the task.

i guess i can comfort myself with the fact that leo probably dies some humiliating gruesome death in this movie. maybe that will make up for him being in the movie. so frustrating though. if you're gonna have some sly super-evil slave-fighting plantation owner why pick babyface doofus? when has he ever played a credible adult? when in doubt, get liam neeson. we already established (on some other thread) that he rarely plays villains and who's scarier really?

moronic fatass fan of racist '70s movies.

<3 morbs

many of qt's movies are in tents

:D

:(

Pretty sure Morbs did end up finally watching IB and called it shit or thereabouts.

oh for real? huh

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<3 u for that omar

I just love riding in cars!

man he really does dress like a 12yo

more relevant that he writes like one.

fine tentpole was overstepping

doesn't surprise me that Generation Doof enthusiasts of this guy use MARKETING lingo (inaccurately) when trying to describe aesthetic virtues.

lazy moviegoers = stupid filmmakers' "events"

yeah, I saw IB CUZ YOU PEOPLE FORCED ME JUST LIKE I VOTED FOR OBAMA IN THE '08 NY PRIMARY FUCK ALL OF YOU AND GOODNIGHT.

I don't know any 12 yo godard fans let's be real

yeah, I saw IB CUZ YOU PEOPLE FORCED ME JUST LIKE I VOTED FOR OBAMA IN THE '08 NY PRIMARY FUCK ALL OF YOU AND GOODNIGHT.

lol, you big baby

oh noes MARKETING

yeah like THE GODFATHER FRANCHISE

THE APU FRANCHISE

THE RING CYCLE

I hope to one day be as pure and unsullied in thought, language, and action as is our esteemed Doctor.

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i may regret this post but: IB is perhaps kinda interesting but calling it "formally daring" is a bit of a stretch, imo. i dont really think his appropriation of exploitation tropes is really as transgressive (or as entertaining) as his champions seem to feel they are. i think he has kind of a "knack" for putting together moments that have a certain pull or power but it's hard, for me anyway, to ever really connect that to anything more interesting. his films are impeccable in many respects but oppressive for that same reason: there's not really *any* risks in a QT film, as far as I can tell, and that's boring. even the supposed emotional core of his films strike me as ultimately vacant, borrowed, appropriated. he wants to tell stories of empowerment but only though HIS voice, HIS obsessions. his films are designed to flatter his audience. and i've said it around here before, but maybe i only feel that way because i dont have the same taste in movies that he does.

sorry for that, but QT films just rub me the wrong way, and i have a really hard time figuring out why.

seems you've figured out why pretty well. nice post.

yeah. there are a handfull of QT films that i like a whole lot but daring isn't a word i've considered throwing at them. his movies are fun because they're vacant. it's sort of the point. idk maybe QT thinks otherwise, i don't really care. it's what i get out of them.

i think that's a totally fair point and honestly the source of what I enjoy about them too

THE APU FRANCHISE

Kael OTM.

i get weirdly defensive about IB for some reason, i guess because seeing it in a theatre is a really good memory for me, i'm not even QT superfan or anything,

"doesn't surprise me that Generation Doof enthusiasts of this guy use MARKETING lingo (inaccurately) when trying to describe aesthetic virtues."

i'm forming a tentpole in my pants at this post. i wrote a whole message about wikipedia and the 75 million budget and how i wasn't describing aesthetic values i was describing how it was an iconoclastic move (my whole point) but then i was like "wait i'm trying to actually engage with dr morbius in a conversation about tarantino" and was like
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and ryan, fair enough, but for me the way that IB appropriated exploitation tropes as a way to deal with the unimaginable horror of ww2 and the nazis was very powerful, like the movie was saying that the only way to cope with such a horrible event was to insert revenge fantasies learned from a 1970s childhood/adolescence spent in front of tv and movie screens, in the same way that mel brooks dealt with it by using the catskills comedy tropes that he knew, and the way that "to be or not to be" used screwball tropes.

no offense to mel brooks, but it was kinda more daring when the original film of to be or not to be came out in 1942. lots of people were shccked that there was a comedy about nazis. in the 80's, not so much...

well with mel i meant "the producers" et al and not his shitty remake of "to be or not to be" but yeah lubitsch is a hero of mine forever for the '42 "to be or not to be", a kind of courage that filmmakers now can only dream of..my point was that IB gave my scalp a tingle in the same fashion that TBONTB did