Taking Sides: Liverpool vs Everton

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And Villa.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:17 (twenty-two years ago)

That's very harsh on Steve.

And Birmingham.

― the bluefox, Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

How a good season for Boro?

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Won cup. In Europe.

...and Bolton. They're best ever Premiership season and a cup final.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I guess, they'd want to be really, the amount of blown money over the last few years.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:24 (twenty-two years ago)

They have to pay more because no-one want to live there.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Are you putting on a Johnny Foreigner voice when you say that?

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:29 (twenty-two years ago)

it's not that harsh on steve, I read the post and almost out loud said "of course, that's why this may have been the worst premiership season so far"

― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

yes, id add in bolton and villa also. but, thinking of expectations, what about fulham? tipped to go down, so surely their season is a huge success? but then, earlier this season they looked able to palce higher than they did

for many teams, it seems a curious season

― gareth (gareth), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

man city? top in September, wooden spoon in May - very curious, or maybe not considering they have Kelvin Koogan at the helm

― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:33 (twenty-two years ago)

late flourishes from Villa and Bolton, surprising most if not all of us. Granted their positions surpass their ambitions for this season I suspect. Fulham, Southampton and Birmingham will also be content. I should have phrased it 'it's not been a GOOD season for anyone but the three originally mentioned', merely adequate (Charlton - because they fell at the last hurdles but can still be proud), disappointing (Spurs, Blackburn, Everton etc.) or downright disastrous (Leeds)

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Err - Chelsea??

Champions League semi-final and second in the league, surpassing Man U? Given that they were 10-1 for the title even after Abramovich had taken over and bought half the world, I'd say this was a good season.

I am coming to the conclusion that it is the stupidest thing stevem has ever said.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:38 (twenty-two years ago)

look, they won NOTHING

― Bigotron (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

he did say outside the top three N.

And hasn't Peter Kenyon (who is an absolute prat) declared Chelsea's season a failure?

― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

If I was a Charlton fan I would feel crushingly disappointed with the second half of this season. With Scott Parker playing they could've been in the Champions League or at least the UEFA by now. Of course, he was "unsettled" - there's a pretty compelling argument for keeping rival agents away from players altogether under bane of a hefty fine.

I don't understand all these Chelsea fans and board members crying about it. It's not like they aren't going to be winning trophies and in the Champions League next season and every season until Abramovich decides its safe to pull all his dodgy money out of the UK.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh right - sorry. He should surely have said outside the top two, then?

Ha - Bigot Ron was good enough, but Bigotron takes it to another level.

Peter Kenyon is to be disregarded. It was only a disappointment because they came so close.

I heard the other day that Abramovich had no expectations of winning anything in the first season anyway.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 13 May 2004 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

If I spent £110m on a football club (it's unlikely, yeah) I'd want trophies and if I didn't get them I would gun people down. I'd get away with it because of my wad.

So, out of all the Premiership clubs, which is the one that had the most average season (didn't exceed expectations or disappoint). Southampton?

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:01 (twenty-two years ago)

definitely, have you seen their record? goal difference = 0, something like won 12 drawn 11 and lost 14

― chris (chris), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

there's no guarantee Chelsea will win anything next season either. It's been a very disappointing season for Manchester Utd, more than Chelsea - the nature of their Champions League exit really being the wet blanket over the fire of the Highbury victory.

Southampton beat Man Utd (it seemed impressive at the time at least) and Liverpool twice - a good season for them but nothing to really show for it.

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 13 May 2004 15:31 (twenty-two years ago)

It was Claudio who said Chelsea wouldn't win anything this season. I mean, Abramovich might have said it too,But Claudio said it on Football Focus.

I think you've got to hand it to Birmingham City really.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Birmingham have done remarkably well when you consider they're run by, you know, a lady.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)

I deleted that very point before posting so that I look like a New Man.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I am referring to Steve Bruce of course.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Steve Bruce is no lady, have you seen her table manners? shocking.

I would big up Birmingham more, if I didn't really dislike Brucey

― chris (chris), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:11 (twenty-two years ago)

can't remember which match it was, but you could clearly hear the opposing fans chanting:

FAT GEORDIE BASTARD, HE'S JUST A FAT GEORDIE BASTARD

at mrs bruce, which made me chuckle...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Birmingham are a staggeringly boring team to watch, Forssell or no Forssell. Quite how he manages to score so often given how few chances his team create is amazing.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:17 (twenty-two years ago)

the best thing is we know that's to the tune of 'Guantanamera' (sp.) without you saying

(x-post)

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:18 (twenty-two years ago)

i was going to put "to guantanemera" but thought it was so obvious :)

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:20 (twenty-two years ago)

PJ, I didn't see Football Focus with Claudio. This was one of 5Live's correspondents reporting what Abramovich had said to someone. That he knew that you couldn't win a championship with a team that had just been thrown together, and that Ranieri was just there in a holding role till he could get the manager he wanted to win it for him in the second season. So if they don't win next year, then yes, disappointment.

― N. (nickdastoor), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Birmingham provided my favourite moment of the season when David Dunn tried one of those kick behind the other leg showboats and fell over. That's up there with the Newcastle free kick from a few years back when they all ran off and forgot about the ball.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:31 (twenty-two years ago)

and, of course, matt mattias (sp?) flooring robbie savage...

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Robbie Savage is a cunt. I fucking hate that cunt Robbie Savage.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Ray Mathias? but yes that was very funny, especially as that dumb sack of dung got up looking to retaliate.

― chris (chris), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:45 (twenty-two years ago)

The first part of Abramovich's comments tally with Ranieri on Football Focus before the start of the season, the second part sounds as if it's all his own work.

My admiration for Birmingham is based solely on league placing and my natural belief that they are always shit. I don't like Robbie Savage either, but I think that's part of his job, to be as much of a cunt as possible.

― PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 14 May 2004 08:50 (twenty-two years ago)

ILX is so much BETTER since PJM appeared.

― Markelby (Mark C), Friday, 14 May 2004 10:30 (twenty-two years ago)

if Savage had short hair people wouldn't be half as mean to him

― stevem (blueski), Friday, 14 May 2004 10:34 (twenty-two years ago)

It really was a disappointing season for the blues. Yet Moyes has signed a new contract, I think?

Meanwhile Keegan gives 2 years' notice to quit.

― the bluefox, Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Everton bid £7m for Alan Smith. Everton!

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 20 May 2004 10:58 (twenty-two years ago)

You've got to wonder where the money's coming from or rather, who we're selling. Maybe Moyes think it's like eBay and he won't necessarily have to pay his maximum bid, just be the highest.

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 20 May 2004 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

I read yesterday that Moyes was sulking cos he only had 1.5m to spend this summer!

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 20 May 2004 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

eBay transfer market now!

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 20 May 2004 11:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Somebody should do an Alan Smith auction on eBay. Buyer must collect, will accept paypal, no timewasters....

― Billy Dods (Billy Dods), Thursday, 20 May 2004 11:16 (twenty-two years ago)

We must be selling Radz for 5.5 then. Joe Cole on loan was another Goodison rumour. After the shocking season we've just had who would want to come?

Over the park: Gerrard making grumbling noises and Heskey gone. Thoughts, Red people?

― Michael Jones (MichaelJ), Thursday, 20 May 2004 11:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Radzinski £5.5m? Never! End of last season that might have been feasible. I hate to say it, but considering Moyes was disappointed with the £1.5m budget he had, the young lad may be on his way.

― Mikey G (Mikey G), Thursday, 20 May 2004 11:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Houllier off within a few days? I am now believing the hype.

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 20 May 2004 11:46 (twenty-two years ago)

so if hou goes and then gerrard and owen go too, what exactly is left in the red side?

riise (what happened to him this season, he was rather anonymous i thought), murphy and kewell i suppose, but not exactly championship winning is it?

― CarsmileSteve (CarsmileSteve), Thursday, 20 May 2004 11:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Jamie Carragher - international warrior!

― N. (nickdastoor), Thursday, 20 May 2004 11:52 (twenty-two years ago)

I think Gerrard and Owen are probably more likely to stay if GH leaves. And I think investors are more likely to give LFC £££s if GH leaves, too. It's very sad.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 20 May 2004 11:58 (twenty-two years ago)

fite appparently both Everton and Liverpool want Alan Smith.

However according to Alan Smith's agent he wants a move to Man Ure [so he can be a posing big time charlie]

Man Ure have only bid 5 million?

Therefore for Leeds United fans this a double whammy: player goes to hated rivals and they get screwed in the transfer market.

by the way Houllier deserves the sack, Liverpool need a fresh start. i hope the board has the guts to act now and not waste another year of underachievement.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I think DJM could be the new Darren Tackle.

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Thursday, 20 May 2004 12:03 (twenty-two years ago)

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