showtime's Homeland =[a tolerable claire danes, mandy patinkin & that girl from firefly naked]

that show was called "Frasier's Living Room"

I felt like they had some p good chemistry, maybe before they started talking abt the fufutre like mature adults, this is perhaps just... life

yup after the finale my wife was like "it was only interesting TV when it was some irresponsible fling, you don't want to see Carrie and Brody organizing their silverware drawer"

seriously, carrie & brodie fleeing thru europe to lebanon while saul battles quinn & dara dall to track them down first, would be a great season

― max, Tuesday, December 18, 2012 12:13 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

ya this is what I thought was gonna happen also I predicted it upthread so I was disappoint

I thought to myself, I hope someone remembers to otm me, but I will do it myself if nessisary

them talking about the future and pretending it was like a normal relationship given the circumstances just cements how nuts they both are!

does anyone else really believe that it was abu nazir's plan to bomb the cia all along, i mean that's a stretch even for carrie's big-picture paranoia and yet somehow brodie convinces her, because they were going to sex in saul's office and they've always been so honest with each other and oh god i don't even

I didn't, it makes sense that Al Qaeda would think "hey everyone from the CIA is all in one place" and come up with something but not that Nazir would think "I will hide for three days, get myself killed, and ... "

yeah theres no need for nazir to die for the plan to work

but walton needed to die for the plan to work, it's all very contingent on stuff that ~barely~ happened this season

well nazir I'm sure had other contingencies lined up cause he is a mastermind he masterminds stuff

naz is a rebel to america

I can't tell if ppl's posts are assuming this or not but they definitely implied that Saul had something to do with the bomb, right? The way they cut to him on the boat at some particular moment. Also now he is boss.

Was season 2 of this show also based on the Israeli series, or was it only season 1? Such a drop off in quality.

wow this show fell off a cliff. i can't believe they think any viewer wants 30 solid minutes of brody/carrie kissy time in the cabin.

i didnt really read the explosion as linked 2 saul, but yea, as bad as the last few eps of s.2 were i guess anythings possible

they kind of played that saul is involved in s1 too. lazy writing 101.

I can't tell if ppl's posts are assuming this or not but they definitely implied that Saul had something to do with the bomb, right? The way they cut to him on the boat at some particular moment. Also now he is boss.

― kinder, Sunday, 23 December 2012 18:37 (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

i think they're just callously playing w this tbh, like why not let the camera linger to let people wonder. i thought having flirted with estes must be a double agent for a long ass time they resolved it pretty gracefully but saul is gonna be saul forever i think, or it would be too much of a lazy reveal - like what could make sense of it. i don't know really what was meant to be inferred by him seeming ~contemplative~ watching the burial.

predicting a freefall into 24-style ridiculousness in season 3

I would kind of welcome that. I was a bit pissed off that Carrie didn't end up going on the lam, I'd quite enjoy a season of her and Brodie evading CIA spooks.

Though that would likely involve more scenes of them having unconvincing sex than I'd be entirely comfortable with.

The main problem with this show is that there is zero onscreen chemistry between Danes and the Brody dude, any scene where they're together is like watching two different breeds of fish staring at each other in a tank.

Last episode was super lame but I can't deny I was happy when something finally blew up and I realised what they were doing. But they've long been in danger of doing a Lost and over-relying on bullshit wau moments that go nowhere, like the hit and run storyline.

they had chem when they were fucking in the parking lot early on, all gone by this year imo.

Was season 2 of this show also based on the Israeli series, or was it only season 1? Such a drop off in quality.

First half or so of S1 AFAIU

any scene where they're together is like watching two different breeds of fish staring at each other in a tank.

lol, a+

Last episode was super lame but I can't deny I was happy when something finally blew up and I realised what they were doing

idk. in between reading that NYer article about chemical warfare & obscurely remembering the end of some season of 24 where they ended the dramatic arc but provided some rollover suspense by having the president work a ropeline & then look at his hand to see it was burning, that he'd been a victim of some surreptitious chemical attack -- i feel like given that homeland is sort of lauded for & focused on the issues & machinations of security & contemporary conflict & is meant to be about the weird personal spheres that govern those things, reducing it all to HUGE_EXPLOSION.MOV was pretty weak. like do something thoughtful. do something that it's actually interesting to think about, that reflects the less dramatic grim nuance of policy (which is why i liked estes' motivation!, that it sorta vaguely maps onto actual issues of targeted killing & juristiction & authority, albeit fantasically/weirdly). it was the end of the season & you assume they're going to have to manufacture some rollover conflict because that's how tv works & they did it in the laziest i guess terrorists should blow something up? way possible

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blahhhhhhhhhhhhh rip

So I stopped watching a little ways into season 2 (and I only very warily proceded that far after the bet hedging of the season 1 finale). Is it worth continuing?

i think s2 had very strong points but also moments of 24-esque overreach, and then s3 seemed to be repeating all the mistakes that 24 used to make so i bailed after a couple episodes. i feel think most critics have panned s3 but the show's ratings have never been higher, so.

there's a "big reveal" in s3 that worked well i thought. but it was otherwise hit or miss

I thought it was alright. And it had to end the way it did.

Don't really get the critical panning of season 3. First few episodes were dull/silly but it's been a massive improvement over the second season since then. I mean, it's still daft, but it always has been.

First half of the season = a slog, but since the mid-point reveal it's been good. Not fully invested in it, though, emotionally.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2014/10/02/homeland-is-the-most-bigoted-show-on-television/?hpid=z4

good first episodes. so glad they are done with Brody

Blimey this is still going.

it feels like a greatest hits of prior seasons so far

liked it on facebook just so i know who to avoid on tinder ;)

Series 4 is shaping up very nicely indeed. Danes in the latest episode was fantastic.

omg that last episode

so tense, so thrilling

WTF is going on

Binge-watching this right now. 3 eps to go. It's gotten good now they've done away with the Carrie & Brody rubbish and made it a classy 24.

lol

http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2015/oct/15/homeland-is-racist-artists-subversive-graffiti-tv-show

What a stupid thing to do.

Seems pretty awesome to me. I dunno. I only have basic cable.

Seems impressive to me as well based on the allegations I have read re the program. But I have always avoided the show

The fact that producers didn't bother to translate anything is way more damning than the graffiti itself

Ha, yeah, the fact that they could get away with it is kind of a validation in itself.

The story that they originally wanted pro-Assad graffiti is quite damning as well.

first episode of the new series was abysmal from quinn laying down his Hard Truths to carrie's petulant greenwaldian colleague