Serial Mom is stupidly good obv btw, but it's still stupid and improbable. It's also easily the best movie listed so far.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:15 (eighteen years ago)
76. Sin City
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:16 (eighteen years ago)
75. Zodiac
74. Batman
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:17 (eighteen years ago)
73. Masscre At Central High
― HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)
72. Scoop 71. Match Point
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)
70. Natural Born Killers
I think this is disqualifiable for a number of reasons (as is American Psycho - surprised no one's dropped that one yet)
also wtf Match Point is not about a serial killer?!
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:18 (eighteen years ago)
69. So I Married An Axe Murderer
― HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)
hahaha
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)
69. The Frighteners
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:19 (eighteen years ago)
68. Basic Instinct 67. Basic Instinct 2 66. Jade
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)
the frighteners is awes
― kenan, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)
the fey dude had a body count of three in Match Point right? Certainly meets improbable and stupid standards.
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)
Why is Zodiac disqualifiable?
― John Justen, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:21 (eighteen years ago)
(xxpost)I can see how everything Jackson's made since would make you say that, but no it's not.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)
Errr... Manhunter?
― Jon Lewis, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)
"Why is Zodiac disqualifiable?"
Because it wasn't ridiculously improbable.
"Errr... Manhunter?"
Is mediocre.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)
is "guy sends wacky puzzles after every killing" any less improbable than "cannibal psychiatrist"?
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)
65. Halloween 64. Halloween 2 63. Halloween 4 62. Halloween 5 61. Halloween 6 60. Hallowen H20 59. Halloween: Resurrection 58. Halloween (2007)
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:23 (eighteen years ago)
I really like all the Hannibal Lecter movies except for "Hannibal", and that one is still kind of "wow that is so retarded it's amazing".
― HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)
(I stand with 'All serial killers are ridiculously improbable, including the real ones.')
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)
57. Crawlspace
― Jon Lewis, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:24 (eighteen years ago)
You could show me documentary footage of a woman giving birth to an adult midget and the scene where Hannibal pops the top on Ray Liotta would still top that shit.
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)
"Hannibal" is still kind of "wow that is so retarded it's amazing".
OTM, I'd probably rather see that again than any of the others.
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)
(xxxxpost)As if that was the only improbable thing about Hannibal Lecter!
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)
Alex OTM re: Zodiac. also because it isn't really about the killer, its about obsession and obfuscation and a whole lot of other things... the killer isn't even depicted as being especially superhuman or unusual.
re: Match Point, Rhys-Davies only kills Scarlett Johannsen and the neighbor (and the neighbor's only killed as a cover-up attempt)...? I don't see how he fits the bill of a serial killer at all.
xxxxxxpost
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:25 (eighteen years ago)
56. Frenzy
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)
is "guy sends wacky puzzles after every killing"
you are aware that he really did this, right?
any less improbable than "cannibal psychiatrist"?
you are aware this type of person has never existed, right?
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:26 (eighteen years ago)
55. Arsenic And Old Lace
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:27 (eighteen years ago)
God what's that fucking movie with Annabella Sciorra where Alan Alda turns out to be the psycho murderer? Was he serial in that?
― Jon Lewis, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)
"The West Wing"?
― HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:28 (eighteen years ago)
some elaboration - you'll note that the killer fucks up all over the place (both in the real case and in the movie) and the main reason he isn't caught isn't because he's a genius or particularly skillful, but because there's a media frenzy combined with a lack of coordination on the part of law enforcement that hopelessly obscures everything about the case.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)
LOLZ YES
54. Art School Confidential
xpost WAY TO GIVE AWAY THE ENDING TO WHISPERS IN THE DARK, JON LEWIS. I'VE NEVER SEEN THAT OH GOD FUCK YOU.
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)
Christ, Shakey, what part of "All serial killers are ridiculously improbable, including the real ones" is hard to understand?
Chill, bro-dawg.
― milo z, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:29 (eighteen years ago)
altho the comedies listed so far are by and large redeemed by their being comedies
(except Art School Confidential, that movie fucking SUCKED)
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)
-- Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, September 7, 2007 9:26 PM (7 seconds ago)
you are aware that "improbable" and "never ever happened" aren't the same thing, right?
xpost
― John Justen, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:30 (eighteen years ago)
Also I am so seeing the shit out of Ethan's Christopher Lambert one, whatever it turns out to be called.
Shakey OTM re art school confidential
― Jon Lewis, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)
I can't believe I forgot about Whispers In The Dark haha.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)
53. Frailty
I enjoyed the first two thirds of it, but I can't pretend it isn't stupid.
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:31 (eighteen years ago)
52. Falling Down
― HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)
Michael Douglas was a serial killer in that? I thought he just threatened people.
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)
something that has actually happened is by definition more probable than something that never has
wtf with logic 101 over here...
― Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:32 (eighteen years ago)
I never saw it, I am making spurious assumptions.
― HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)
I think pretending that serial killers as they exist IRL and serial killers as they are portrayed in cinema are on the same level of improbability is wilfully naive.
― Alex in SF, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:33 (eighteen years ago)
51. Black Christmas
― HI DERE, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)
-- Shakey Mo Collier, Friday, September 7, 2007 9:32 PM (11 seconds ago)
Wow, somehow you just managed to be wrong according to both logic and math in a single sentence. I'm impressed.
― John Justen, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)
It's amazing how much of Falling Down is a mediocre Robert Duvall vehicle when the ads were all THIS WHITE MAN'S MAD AS HELL AND NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE. But then Robert Duvall vehicles don't really sell.
49. Death Proof
― da croupier, Friday, 7 September 2007 21:34 (eighteen years ago)
Loved se7en, especially the cinematography, twas ruined by pitts overacting at the end.
is there a thread on pretty looking films/great cinematography type of thread discussions on one of the threads?
― not_goodwin, Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:49 (fifteen years ago)
Twin Peaks season 2 episodes with windom earl
― a nan, a bal, an anal ― (abanana), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:51 (fifteen years ago)
One of the things I like about Zodiac and Memories of Murder is that both movies make it pretty clear that the main obstacle to catching these guys isn't that they are mad geniuses, it's that the police are poorly equipped to catch people who commit serial murders.
I agree -- most irl serial killers are more likely to be of low or average intelligence, they aren't criminal masterminds.
― THX THO... (Nicole), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:54 (fifteen years ago)
he main obstacle to catching these guys isn't that they are mad geniuses - gotta admit that those dudes are p interesting, but most sks are just sadistic perverts who get away with it as long as they do b/c of the randomness of their crimes.
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 21:59 (fifteen years ago)
lol xp - we seem to have a p fundamental disagreement here.
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:00 (fifteen years ago)
o wait, never mind. that is what I get for scanning posts too quickly
― jerkstore cowboy (Pillbox), Tuesday, 21 December 2010 22:08 (fifteen years ago)
Ebert FUCKING LOVES (er, loved) The Cell
http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/the-cell-2000
― écorché (S-), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 04:45 (ten years ago)
deeply bad last graf there
― playlists of pensive swift (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, 19 August 2015 05:38 (ten years ago)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/se7en-screenwriter-how-a-mixup-david-fincher-led-gutsy-ending-963957
Screenwriter Andrew Kevin Walker was working at Tower Records in New York when he wrote Seven, which was optioned in the early 90s with Christmas Vacation director Jeremiah Chechik coming on board to direct. Chechik wanted to make a very different movie. Among the changes Chechik requested from Walker was one to alter that inventive ending. There was to be no head in a box.
― The beaver is not the bad guy (El Tomboto), Sunday, 15 January 2017 05:30 (nine years ago)
-31. Zodiac
― Neanderthal, Sunday, 15 January 2017 06:03 (nine years ago)
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