which characteristic you really can't stand in other people?

Hate in folks who have no concept of their own flaws.

complainers otm

also people who are extremely picky about things that matter very little

also people who aren't picky at all about things that matter a lot

folks who have no concept of their own flaws.

an adjunct to that: people who will never ever take a hint. And have such a disposition that you can tell they never WILL take a hint. Or change. Or try to.

hearing john say "overabundant self-importance" makes me think of the soul asylum guy

"uhh, do you need some strings or something?"

-- the sir weeze, Tuesday, August 7, 2007 2:18 AM (15 minutes ago)

GREAT MOMENTS IN SURLY CUSTOMER SERVICE - GUITAR SHOP EDITION.

people who aren't picky at all about things that matter a lot

I dunno... music matters a lot to me, and movies, but to deal with most people, you have to throw that out the window. That can't bug you A LOT or you'll be bothered by pretty much everyone.

If I were perfect, in my own estimation, the flaws of others would never bother me. I mean, in the end, that annoyance hurts only the annoyee, not the thistle in the panties. I'm not, of course, so plenty of things others do bug me.

xpost Unless you mean life-or-death matters, which I just don't talk about with coworkers or casual acquaintances.

those people that give you the runaround when you ask your opinion, and then when you give yours are all "OMG TOTALLY, me too!!!!" and who just agree with you about everything

Me too!

groan

(plz notice I also excelsiored that exchange.)

'over-abundant self-importance' and 'over-inflated self worth' etc. - aren't these really the same thing as a sense of entitlement, or manifest themselves in largely the same way at least?

who said they didn't?

People who don't like dogs are no good.

Hey!

Funny, I can't hang much with people who DO like dogs. At least, not people who like them enough to own one over 10 lbs. It just never fails... you got a mid-to-large sized dog, you're off my love list.

kenan otm

well that settles it, I'm hunting down a chocolate lab puppy tomorrow

that'll be cool with me for about 6 months. :)

ok, so... people who live in the city but insist on having big-ass dogs. Stupid or so stupid they should be shot?

I hate these yuppie animal-abusing cocksuckers so much. You do not live in Lincoln Park and buy a Rottweiler, I don't care how sweet they are. Your sense of entitlement has become so overgrown that now you're abusing an animal without even realizing it.

Forget putting down the animal when it inevitably gets sick. Shoot the owner, give the dog to me. I know people who like dogs, at least. It'll live better than is it stays all day in your tiny-ass expensive-ass well-appointed apartment.

And also, fuck you.

Maybe that should go on the Micheal Vick thread.

People who go out of their way to find something objectionable about others.

OTM. Misanthropy in general.

hypersensitive p.c. types. which is just the long way to say hypocrites.

-- wanko ergo sum, Monday, August 6, 2007 8:27 PM (3 hours ago)

Muddled thinking

One thing that drives me crazy is when I'm talking to someone and I know exactly what they are going to say well before they say it. Sometimes conversations are so predictably mundane that I wish that I coudl just skip it all together.

This happens to me mostly in conversations about "art" topics like music, movies, or books. I know that I'm a big snob when it comes to these topics, but it is very painful to me to have to take it down to a level that is ridiculously basic and semi-retarded. I find myself steering away from these topics with most folks even though these are the things that most interest me.

I'm not really sure; I haven't met enough people that I can't stand (knock on wood)

I think most of the people I have problems with are just people who don't like me for whatever reason (usually these are very serious nerdy types) and then I feel the need to reciprocate their dickishness

alternate answer that I feel horribly guilty about typing even though it's kinda true: being my mom

hahaha entire answer =P altoh i dunno sometimes i kinda like it when people are like a mom to me. maybe that's because my mom's crazy.

oh no I just meant that I can't stand my mom (sometimes). she is capable of getting on my nerves worse than anyone else I've ever encountered.

oooh right moms i can understand ; )

I can't stand people who are overly judgmental or dismissive. When someone asks me what I thought of something (like a movie, for example), and I happened not to like it, I'll try to be diplomatic and say something like "maybe it's not my cup of tea" in case the other person really liked it. But I'm amazed at how many people don't concern themselves with this and will just spout off about how much they hated something.

I think I dislike this because it shuts down the potential for useful dialogue. I'll happily engage in a spirited debate about art or politics, but when you approach the subject right off the bat with either vitriol or withering disdain, I find it really frustrating and a barrier to further conversation.

Lacking a sense of adventure or willingness to try new things, particularly with regards to food.

Religious fundamentalism, though most of this comes down to not liking people who assume that their beliefs are the right way and everyone should live by them.

Sexist, high-fiving guy-ness.

Complainers can be okay - if you're spirited and logical about what you're complaining about. Just plain old whining is shitty to me.

I can't stand people who are condascending and assume they know better than you do. I have this friend who always feels the need to explain things to me that I ALREADY KNOW ABOUT. It's very annoying.

asserting your own beliefs/attitudes/behaviours with no regard for other peoples

Liars. Especially those people who won't tell you the truth (especially if it involves saying "yes" or "no" to something) because they don't want to seem like a bad person for saying no, and therefore don't say anything. And the more general lack of truthfulness and lack of trustworthyness.

People who refuse to think about the consequences of their actions. I suppose this goes along with both intellectual shallowness and selfishness.

Though, I suppose, reading the lists of what other people have been saying, what you hate in other people says so much about yourself, we might as well be posting lists of our own worst sins as much as other people's.

(ILX really functions as a convex focusing mirror for our own faults.)

No sense of humour

The characteristics that annoy me more than anything else are:

1. Revelling in their own ignorance
2. Demanding 100% forgiveness and understanding of all their flaws from people, when they are unable to extend that understanding to other people.
3. Inability to forgive and holding excessive grudges way past their sell-by date.
4. Melodrama.
5. Near religious belief in their right to say exactly what they want wherever they want as loudly as they want without a thought for anyone listening.

i should've put 'asserting your own beliefs/attitudes/behaviours at the expense of mine'

Liars. Especially those people who won't tell you the truth (especially if it involves saying "yes" or "no" to something) because they don't want to seem like a bad person for saying no, and therefore don't say anything.

YES TOTALLY.

i should've put 'asserting your own beliefs/attitudes/behaviours at the expense of mine'

Well you'd have been FUCKING WRONG to do so.

I have worked hard to try and be honest with people even when I know what horrible fallout it might bring. I mean I'm not talking tactless uneccesary honesty, just being upfront!

Matt, you're a mind reader, especially on point number two. I would also like to add:

Practitioners of emotional blackmail.

(Actually I don't really mean #4 at all, I am melodramatic all the time, mostly for comic effect. I think I mean inability to distinguish between real life situations and melodrama, or just not caring about making that distinction)

Best melodrama evah!

Well I would certainly add melodrama to the list tho, of course, this is as much about what we hate in ourselves as well as others, surely?

3. Inability to forgive and holding excessive grudges way past their sell-by date.

this is quite hard to stop doing but it's only really a problem if you have mutual friends (not that i have real idea of grudge sell-by dates tho)

I know, Trayce, it drives me INSANE. It's like some people do everything simply for the *appearance* of *looking* like a nice person, regardless of what they are actually doing behind it all.

It's like they're afraid of actually telling the truth - not for fear of hurting someone, but for fear of looking like a "not nice" person. And then end up causing utter chaos and much worse problems in the long run.

6. Bad facial hair.

tho, of course, this is as much about what we hate in ourselves as well as others, surely?

I don't think there's a single person on this thread who isn't a bit guilty of this! (myself included, before anyone jumps on me.)

I really dislike people who take some observation about themself/one or two other people and extrapolate it as some universal truth to try and prove a point about how they are right. I really dislike people who contribute nothing to conversations but feel the need to try to contribute anyway when they really would be better served just shutting up and not displaying their ignorance about the subject at hand. I also really dislike people who try to wheedle out some sympathy when floundering to gain ground any other way.

I really dislike people who contribute nothing to conversations but feel the need to try to contribute anyway when they really would be better served just shutting up and not displaying their ignorance about the subject at hand.

There speaks a pub quizzer, amirite?

i think that only annoys me when it's on the internet.

rolling complaints thread 2007 =)

this hollow gaping maw where their sense of optimism and gratitude for the good things should be.

It's often been stamped out, beaten out, set on fire, trampled and generally destroyed for most of their lifetime.

mine has nine lives, i think.

i also get frustrated with people who make excuses for their own inertia w/r/t giving a shit about the environment -- global warming is a real thing, and we're all contributing to it, so take some initiative and do your damn part. and stop being glib and condescending about people who actually do make the effort (even if it's relatively superficial).

A sense that life "isn't fair" and that's why you can't achieve anything in life.

nosiness. tightwad behaviour. laziness in an office context. lack of self awareness.

kneejerk dismissal of (potentially awesome) things one isn't familiar with, usually due to insecurity

You know it's not even a trait I dislike, but I am going to admit here that the very cool make me nervous, nervous in a way where I do something stupid like talk about an earlier shart accident, something debasing.

i stand by what i said in 2007.

A sense that life "isn't fair" and that's why you can't achieve anything in life.

this this this. nothing less appealing in a person than a tight & bitter focus on the things that have screwed them over (health problems, bad parenting, evildoers, relationship woes, whatever).

tends to go hand-in-hand with get bent's "jadedness, constant negativity."