I thought starship troopers was the sequel to naked lunch
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:29 (sixteen years ago) link
12 Monkeys Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country Johnny Mnemonic
^^^these are my favorites, although i've watched and enjoyed a ton of stuff on that list.
― Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:38 (sixteen years ago) link
stargate = huge guilty pleasure.
― Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link
what kind of fucking crack are you guys smoking
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
see you at the party richter
― DG, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:41 (sixteen years ago) link
alien: resurrection is a fun alien movie.
― Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:42 (sixteen years ago) link
what's the most '90s on here? pi?
― Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link
It is! Also winona ryder. and the room full of disfigured mutant ripleys!!
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:43 (sixteen years ago) link
ron perlman & dominique pinon!
― Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:44 (sixteen years ago) link
lawnmower man is most 90s surely
xp yeah maybe ryder content is key here
― gff, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link
I think JM is the most 90s of the bunch honestly! Smack in the middle of the decade, all up in Japan and shit, and would you look at this soundtrack: http://www.amazon.com/Johnny-Mnemonic-Various-Artists/dp/B000002AZF
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:45 (sixteen years ago) link
ha, quien es mas '90s, stabbing westward or:
1. Pi (Symbol)r2 - Clint Mansell 2. P.E.T.R.O.L. - Orbital 3. Kalpol Intro - Autechre 4. Bucephalus Bouncing Ball - Aphex Twin 5. Watching Windows - Roni Size 6. Angel - Massive Attack 7. We Got The Gun - Clint Mansell 8. No Man's Land - David Holmes 9. Anthem - Gus Gus 10. Drippy - Banco De Gaia 11. Third from the Sun - Psilonaut 12. A Low Frequency Inversion Field - Spacetime Continuum 13. 2Pi (Symbol)r - Clint Mansell
(not a rhetorical question)
― Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link
ha i misunderstood what tom was responding to, there.
alan rickman in 'galaxy quest' is grebt... a mobius-strip of a performance, even.
― gff, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:48 (sixteen years ago) link
for the love of mike, Jordan, I cringed thru Johnny Mnemonic once, and I'd give that version of Keanu a tongue bath.
shortlist:
City Of Lost Children eXistenZ Mars Attacks! The Iron Giant
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link
i haven't seen johnny mnemonic since '96 probably, except for a little bit on tv. i have no objective sense of whether it's at all decent, just fond nostalgia.
― Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link
Not quite the Hackers soundtrack.
Pi is the only one that has a character die from trying to do maths that is too hard.
― ogmor, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link
i mean it has dolph lundgren AND henry rollins AND ice-t.
SPEAKING OF ICE-T WHERE IS TANK GIRL?
― John Justen, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
people all enjoy eXistenZ as OTT camp right? EXISTENZ IS PAUSED!!! *plop*
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:55 (sixteen years ago) link
oh dude where IS tank girl? oh man did I fuck up
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
anybody who wants to say that a movie with mutant kangaroo ice-t in it doesn't qualify as science fiction can suck it, btw
just getting that out of the way ahead of time
― John Justen, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:56 (sixteen years ago) link
eXistenZ is so fucking terrible, but i love the other three morbius choices
― John Justen, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:57 (sixteen years ago) link
xp: I don't do camp. Tank Girl (saw for free) man be even worse than Mnemonic. Ice-T did plenty o' shit except for that Walter Hill movie.
The Iron Giant is one of the few great US films of the '90s, but is it SF, hmmmmmmmmmm.
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link
JJ, "New ports are kinda tight," it may be a gay thing
― Dr Morbius, Thursday, 27 March 2008 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link
did anyone see New Rose Hotel? it is approx. 10000000x worse than Johnny Mnemonic. it has christopher walken, willem defoe, and naked asia argento yet manages to be completely unwatchable.
it's kinda funny to watch walken basically improvise the script and pull out his stock lines from other movies, though.
― Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 21:07 (sixteen years ago) link
So tempted to vote for one of these: Demolition Man Freejack Judge Dredd
but I was predictable and went for Starship Troopers. Is The Postman as bad as they say?
― Matt #2, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:09 (sixteen years ago) link
Morbz' list is actually pretty OTM
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:13 (sixteen years ago) link
(altho should I be surprised Morbz is no fan of Starship Troopers?)
should I be surprised both of you look down your nose at fun
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:15 (sixteen years ago) link
nyah nyah
in what world is Starship Troopers not fun
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:19 (sixteen years ago) link
or Mars Attacks! Best death by yodeling scene ever!
The only one of these that I saw and enjoyed is Dark City.
― Eazy, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link
Galaxy Quest!
http://www.geocities.com/missipyle/pics/gq9.jpg
Easiest choice ever. So funny from beginning to end.
― Pashmina, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link
man galaxy quest has such an amazing cast
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:23 (sixteen years ago) link
oh shit daryl mitchell is a paraplegic now?!? jeez
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:24 (sixteen years ago) link
i voted TOTAL RECALL on a whim
― n/a, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:28 (sixteen years ago) link
Galaxy Quest is great but I dunno if anyone would love it who isn't overly familiar with Star Trek
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link
but i also like galaxy quest, 12 monkeys, the fifth element and city of lost children
― n/a, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:29 (sixteen years ago) link
i've seen cube more times than i'd like to admit.
― Jordan, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:51 (sixteen years ago) link
people all enjoy eXistenZ as OTT camp right?
I'm not sure I'd say it was camp, but definitely an OTT romp. Unless that's your only requirement for camp, in which case THAT'S COOL, BRO. It was on my shortlist, but I voted for City of Lost Children, as I figured it might not get much top vote love.
― emil.y, Thursday, 27 March 2008 22:55 (sixteen years ago) link
eXistenZ is not camp.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 23:01 (sixteen years ago) link
at least not in the way that, say, Mommie Dearest or Showgirls is camp
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 23:02 (sixteen years ago) link
i voted TOTAL RECALL because it's awesome.
― Alba, Thursday, 27 March 2008 23:03 (sixteen years ago) link
That's a sad selection of films.
― James Morrison, Thursday, 27 March 2008 23:05 (sixteen years ago) link
it isn't really! I'm more impressed by it than I expected to be when I started compiling
― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 March 2008 23:06 (sixteen years ago) link
I am too... but its still bad, especially compared to the 80s
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, 27 March 2008 23:13 (sixteen years ago) link
UM SHOULDN'T THE MATRIX (1999) BE ON HEAR.
― nickalicious, Thursday, 27 March 2008 23:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Iron Giant is my favorite on this list but I don't think it's exactly appropriate.
― nickalicious, Thursday, 27 March 2008 23:17 (sixteen years ago) link
Oh haha The Matrix is in the "T"s. Sorry.!
leaving it in here and leaving out terminator 2 is wilful inconsistency but I guess that's threadstarter's prerogative
― have a nice Blog (imago), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:13 (eleven years ago) link
now that must actually be some kind of mistake
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:14 (eleven years ago) link
tombot despises terminator 2 iirc
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
In movies sci-fi isn't a form the way horror or comedy or drama are. Content is what makes sci-fi sci-fi.
For example Alien is a sci-fi movie in content but a horror movie in form, Blade Runner is sort of a neo-noir,Wall-E is sci-fi played as an animated family adventure movie. Most successful sci-fi movies are action adventure in form.
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
I guess.
― have a nice Blog (imago), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:17 (eleven years ago) link
anyway, poor Contact, eh?
― have a nice Blog (imago), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:20 (eleven years ago) link
nice work lb *high fives as i skate past u*
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:22 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― lego maniac cop (latebloomer), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
IF I MAY, to my understanding science-fiction speculates hard abt possible scientific advances/discoveries and the implications of these. Starship Troopers speculates hard abt militarism and propaganda, which are very much part of the world as we know it. This probably makes someone like Philip K Dick as much a writer of contemporary dramas as of science-fiction. Haven't gotten this all worked out obviously and you're just as valid claiming that space-bugs = sci-fi
― have a nice Blog (imago), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:27 (eleven years ago) link
science-fiction speculates hard abt possible scientific advances/discoveries and the implications of these.
no this is just what 'hard scifi' is
― 乒乓, Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_science_fiction
tbf tbf I think it's arrogant to say what's 'scientifically possible' given we don't know shit about our universe & possibly never will
― have a nice Blog (imago), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
except caek obvs
well... all of a life is a 'fiction' if u think abt it.
― 乒乓, Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
they shd just be called science movies rly
― have a nice Blog (imago), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
also all sci-fi is about 'now' if u think about it
― we're up all night to get (s1ocki), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:39 (eleven years ago) link
2001 a space odyssey is a period piece!
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:40 (eleven years ago) link
http://cdn.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/pta-disband.gif
― christmas candy bar (al leong), Sunday, 12 May 2013 17:41 (eleven years ago) link
The Island of Doctor Moreau: Somehow, weirdly, better than I expected? Brando in IDGAF mode is basically hilarious (and at times seems to be channeling Ian McDiarmid's Emperor!), Kilmer trying to act like a guy going crazy comes off as appealingly goofy, and it's always kind of a pleasant surprise to watch one of these 90s sci-fi movies where, whatever else might be going wrong, at least the sets and costumes and props are made of stuff. Thing doesn't look cheap anyhow.
The biggest problems have to do with the underworked plot and Thewlis's character, who for half the movie has no one to talk to and no clear immediate goals he's working towards. Probably also needed a more fundamental reconsideration at the level of, who really cares about human-animal hybrids (GWB aside)? Just not a really fundamental fear in 1996. They should have pushed the body-horror angle, maybe had one throwaway character who we get to know, who then wakes up and looks down and finds that Brando has replaced their hands with lobster claws, or something. It could be more like Saw. Once it gets to the rebelling-monsters stuff, we're in Planet of the Apes territory and it's just hard to get that worked up about it.
But, come on:
http://media.sfx.co.uk/files/2012/02/Fashion-moreau.png
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 5 January 2014 02:52 (ten years ago) link
Is he wearing a Flava Flav clock y/n?
― Ian from Etobicoke (Phil D.), Sunday, 5 January 2014 03:36 (ten years ago) link
no, but movie would be improved measurably by reworking brando as the hype-man for his little person buddy
http://www.standbyformindcontrol.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/moreau.jpg?9d7bd4
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 5 January 2014 22:41 (ten years ago) link
Also just rewatched Waterworld, which I can't say has gotten any better or any worse. Now that the budget is no longer some unprecedented absurdity it plays a little better, though you still just see money washing around in every shot - so many sets, so many explosions, so much stuff. I liked that about it really. Costner's character is still a hateful, alien bastard to whom it's impossible to relate - I think I admire that more now, since it's so clearly not driven by any kind of commercial instinct or Screenwriting 101 rules. Lavish career suicide. Everyone else is just kind of ...there. Dennis Hopper chews his lines up but he's just the tip of the goofiness iceberg in a movie that never really explains how this flooded world works. Sorta seems like Hopper's gang of Mad Max jet-ski bandits would have pretty much killed everybody off by now. So I guess as a "science fiction movie" it's basically a failure, but it's pretty good-looking I'd say.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 5 January 2014 22:48 (ten years ago) link
omg y'all strange days is so horrible, just watched, kind of stunned at how long and stupid and self-congratulatory and gratuitous it was. just ugly and unpleasant and gesturing at all kinds of areas where it could Say Something, but not saying it.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 February 2015 06:23 (nine years ago) link
oh wait there's a whole thread for that, nevermind
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 19 February 2015 06:25 (nine years ago) link
this week's dud: The Lawnmower Man. yikes, the CGI... but really the problem is the hodgepodge plot, a mangle of Dreamscape, Flowers For Algernon, a Tron type deal I guess, needlessly cluttered up by the religious angle and the evil military guys. Was this awesome if you saw it when it came out and you were 12?
― Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 03:44 (nine years ago) link
no
― the late great, Tuesday, 31 March 2015 03:53 (nine years ago) link
Freejack 0
Had to actually see these results just now to remember that I actually saw this movie. In the theatre.
― That shit right there is precedented. (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 31 March 2015 04:14 (nine years ago) link
saw /johnny mnemonic/ and /virtuosity/ as a double feature the other night, part of anthology film archives's "1995: the year the internet broke" series. the context, and the crowd, massively improved johnny m, which is still a mess but a pretty lovable one. at least it's trying to cram in as many crazy ideas and characters as possible, even if it's at the expense of having a satisfying studio-movie narrative. Virtuosity is terrible, mostly enjoyably so but there's some half-baked prison violence and police brutality stuff near the beginning that kinda takes it away from being just a sloshy good-time bad movie. crowe and washington are giving it 100% at least.
i was pretty harsh on /strange days/ upthread. i've been convinced it's a way more interesting film than i gave it credit for and really should give it a rewatch.
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 8 March 2020 19:59 (four years ago) link
Demolition Man 1
I think this might have been me
― panic-buying the upmarket pasta (Matt #2), Sunday, 8 March 2020 20:13 (four years ago) link
― Doctor Casino, Sunday, 8 March 2020 19:59 (four weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink
you werent, you shouldn't be, it isnt, you shouldnt
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Monday, 6 April 2020 10:45 (four years ago) link
LOL, I was actually 12 when this came out and, no, it definitely wasn't awesome.
― Vegemite Is My Grrl (Eric H.), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:00 (four years ago) link
wow, i've forgotten most of the stuff about that movie that i mentioned in that post.
― Doctor Casino, Monday, 6 April 2020 13:32 (four years ago) link
good decision
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:37 (four years ago) link
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, February 18, 2015 11:23 PM (five years ago) bookmarkflaglink
i like strange days a lot but hard for me to say any aspect of this post is wrong
― mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Monday, 6 April 2020 13:53 (four years ago) link
I don’t think I’d vote for it on a best sci-fi poll, but Galaxy Quest is easily the best film on this list in terms of quality.
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 6 April 2020 14:03 (four years ago) link
not sure there's an "easily the best" option under any heading meself tbh, several movies here i love and think are really strong efforts
― ole uncle tiktok (darraghmac), Monday, 6 April 2020 14:05 (four years ago) link
Considered watching 12 Monkeys the other day (don't think I've seen it since its theatrical release), remembered the plot, revised my consideration.
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Monday, 6 April 2020 14:11 (four years ago) link
I do not care about 90% of these but Galaxy Quest is grebt.
A TS: Postman vs. Waterworld might be interesting. But for me it would come down to Olivia Williams vs. Jeanne Tripplehorn, and that would be sad because they are both dear to me. Terrible movies, of course.
― cuomo money, cuomo problems (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 6 April 2020 14:18 (four years ago) link
so many bad opinions itt
― mh, Monday, 6 April 2020 14:46 (four years ago) link
mh, are you saying that you liked Waterworld?
― cuomo money, cuomo problems (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 6 April 2020 14:48 (four years ago) link
sorry for the monday morning negativity
there are also so many good opinions itt
― mh, Monday, 6 April 2020 15:00 (four years ago) link
Galaxy Quest is indeed great
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 April 2020 18:58 (four years ago) link
Strange Days is terrible, just like p much every other Kat Bigelow movie
I saw Lawnmower Man *in the theater*. It is also awful.
I think at the time i was still mildly curious about the potential of this newfangled CGI stuff
― Οὖτις, Monday, 6 April 2020 18:59 (four years ago) link
If you've seen the (yes, completely awful) film The Lawnmower Man but have yet to read the Stephen King short story 'The Lawnmower Man', I would suggest that you do so ASAP. Never has Hollywood more faithfully adapted an existing work. It's almost eerie.
― Unparalleled Elegance (Old Lunch), Monday, 6 April 2020 19:09 (four years ago) link
I saw most of these when they came out, and for the most part, not since then. I have to go with my memory of how psyched I was upon exiting the theater I'd vote for Jurassic Park, though I'm baffled as to why T2 is not on the list.
― justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 7 April 2020 05:39 (four years ago) link