showtime's Homeland =[a tolerable claire danes, mandy patinkin & that girl from firefly naked]

what. he has karate lessons. how is that not a storyline.

would LOVE to see a whole episode of just chris brody hanging out w/mike. TRUTH.

you want to watch chris play kuma wars and eat cereals while mike's biding his time waiting for chris' mom ?

lol @ me

The idea that Brody/Carrie love has suddenly become an all-important bit of emotional motivation in these past few eps is pretty hilarious.

you know why Brody liked Abu Nazir so much? Cos he's the only person who ever used his first name

so tonights got to end w carrie becoming the new brodie right, i mean he flipped her, they are their own terrorist cell now

plus when saul tells her theyre gonna kill brodie that pushes her further

why did brodie's wife call him brodie all the time? that really annoyed me. she NEVER called him Nick.

ha i read an interview of the creator w reader submitted questions today and he totally dodged the one abt how they werent tracking brodies phone but they did say that in their research of military culture they found that this was a not uncommon practice

I read that same interview, it was a really terrible interview that I came away from having absolutely zero faith in these guys as showrunners

Wife calling Brody Brody seems like a high school nickname that stuck.

i read the part abt the name then the part abt the cell phone and went w/e f this

some people just everyone calls them their last name

Where's this interview?

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/14/your-homeland-questions-answered/

huh

cia go boom

It went big, but not in the way I was hoping

Maybe not the best timing for a mass-murder-on-US-soil ep

lol @ carrie just coming back like it's no thing that she disappeared for a day or two right after a bomb exploded in the cia. how is she gonna explain that? "i went for a quicky with alleged terrorist brody the bomb exploded but i believed him when he told me he didn't do it so i helped him get fake id, money and a route out of the country, but hey look, i'm back, i'm one of the good ones you know let's all forget what i just did". i liked saul telling her she was the smartest and dumbest person he knew, but that honour might just go to him if he just accepts her back into the fold.

there is a new york magazine recap of this ep that explores the possibility of carrie rehabilitating brodie's image, like as if at some point it might work out if somebody makes the distinction that although okay he previously had been a double agent & sure had made the suicide video & yeah synchronous with his ascendance had been plotting to kill & yeah i mean i guess had if you wanna slice it that way sorta killed the veep he totally didn't do it this time, & so could theoretically return gloriously to public life. that was him leaving the show while leaving open ~dramatic character return~ possibilities afaict.

carrie said she was gonna clear his name

and she's also probably the one person who has the least cred to clear his name. she knew he was a terrorist and has v strong feelings for him, she helped him flee the country and was conspicuously absent when the bomb exploded. you hardly get more biased on the topic of brody than carrie. also, i guess the showrunners are still going with the mole angle, cos brody's car was moved from its spot. such shoddy security though, letting in a car packed with explosives and then letting someone move that car right next to the hall.

ha yeah that was ridiculous, someone moved my car

brody was all "sweet, i'm gonna get some action with carrie in a cia office. also she just said she was ready to live with me but hey waitaminute, what's my car doing there?".
i don't know that saul would approve of his office being used for that purpose btw.

saul is dumping yr friend into the ocean we can totally swing an f in his office hey whats yr car doing there

in the opening credits, carrie says "i let it happen once, i won't let it happen again". she was actually talking about having sex in saul's office and she's the one who exploded brody's car to prevent her from making that same mistake again. that's why she let her herself be so easily convinced by brody, cos she knew who had actually planted that carbomb !

*_*

everything about that finale was f'in ridiculous but this bit was maybe #1 dumbest for me -- black ops hardman Quinn has miracle change of heart about killing Brody, threatens to murder head of CIA; head of CIA says "ok fine," calls off hit on Brody, lets Saul go free and promises to promote Carrie to a high position of responsibility

o_0 at this:
http://www.salon.com/2012/12/17/homeland_showrunner_addresses_season_2_criticism/

Especially this:
“Brody could have died in a number of ways. But we always come back to the fact that whenever those two characters are on screen with each other, the show elevates. And so the idea that we’re actually going to end his story for good is…one that we’re terrified of doing because it really means that we would really have to reinvent the show in a way that it would be a completely different show.”

GOOD, you idiot! This one's getting ridiculous.

agree that Carrie walking back in like it's no big deal is absurd. I thought the lightbulb was gonna go on over Saul's head as soon as he heard "Carrie and Brody both unaccounted for."

i felt like that did happen

i mean we have no idea what carries excuse or sauls reaction is gonna be

not defending the verisimilitude of this show btw

But we always come back to the fact that whenever those two characters are on screen with each other, the show elevates.

lol srs

all that shit w them in the cabin was so terrible, blowing up the cia def redeemed the ep tho, i appreciate that they continue to elevate

i felt like that did happen

maybe but when Saul was talkin to his wife later it sounded like he really thought Carrie was dead

I did like how they flipped Brody's martyr video to make it look like he was confessing to this new thing. that was kinda cool.

yeah brody got played

Haven't seen the finale. Hoping Boris and/or Natasha show up. Or (expanding into a recurring role in season 3) special agent A. Powers, on loan from MI6.

this was so so so dumb

Especially this:
“Brody could have died in a number of ways. But we always come back to the fact that whenever those two characters are on screen with each other, the show elevates. And so the idea that we’re actually going to end his story for good is…one that we’re terrified of doing because it really means that we would really have to reinvent the show in a way that it would be a completely different show.”

kill all yr darlings ffs

for all its faults, there is really absolutely no way this would ever be a more interesting (or even necessarily more plausible) show with Brody dead rather than alive, no idea why people think that option needs to be on the table.

because we hate him and want him to die

-- david estes

(rip)

this show is so f-ing dumb

yeah it's pretty hilarious

http://www.salespodder.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/saul-completes-carries-nazir-timeline-in-homelands-s01e11.jpg

no man u just dont get it

i'm still trying to pinpoint just when this show went off the deep end of absurdity. i mean it was always pretty ridiculous but jesus this season

i can't wait to see season 3 with carrie at the cia, everyone trying to track brody and she re-arranges everything on the colour-coded pinboard so that it forms a heart shape.