Quentin Tarantino's Western movie "Django Unchained"

I had a lot to say about IB lol

kinda can't imagine QT topping it but I am pretty excited for this

he is definitely a heavily moralistic filmmaker

violence matters a LOT in his movies, baffled that anyone could come away from his films thinking that "nothing matters"

Django has one scene of predominately implied violence that I found almost unbearable. The rest of the violence is the opposite of implied and the opposite of unbearable.

This is prolly the first QT I'll just see on DVD

I was thinking of Django as part 3 of a revenge trilogy with Kill Bill and IB. I'd rather he made an entirely new film than play around in formal exercises.

― improvised explosive advice (WmC), Wednesday, April 11, 2012 2:44 PM

This still applies for me. Still not sure I'll bother to see this on the big screen.

Peter Bradshaw in the Guardian gives it 5 stars http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/dec/12/django-unchained-first-look-review Don't know what to make of this as he gave IB, which I mostly love, only one star.

Django Unchained also has the pure, almost meaningless excitement which I found sorely lacking in Tarantino's previous film, Inglourious Basterds, with its misfiring spaghetti-Nazi trope and boring plot.

lol @ this idiot

that boring plot about killing hitler

oh THAT one

The details box in that review says 136 minutes, but Bradshaw in the review says 2 hrs 45 minutes. I assume he just can't do the math, or is it actually 2:45:00?

IB was boring! it was "about" a group of misfits tearassing around occupid france, but it filmed all the parts where they sat around talking to each other.

It felt like 2:45, but I didn't check my phone at the end.

it was "about" a group of misfits tearassing around occupid france

this isn't really what it was about

but it filmed all the parts where they sat around talking to each other.

welcome to QT films, tbh

but yeah scarequotes okay

xp

haha i would probably agree that ib was superficially "boring" in a way but i also think it was kind of the point

Hm, ok, IMDB says 165 minutes.

QT fans' biggest problem is that it takes well over half the movie before Django gets to one of those "building tension through incongruously flowery dialogue" setpieces. Up to that point, they'll have to be sustained by the n-word.

i mean re. "boring," pretty much every tarantino movie ever is him sticking various spanners into the way exploitation movies are "supposed" to work as contraptions designed to efficiently pump the lizard brain. you may not LIKE that, and i go back and forth myself, but it's pretty clearly an aesthetic strategy.

yeah I sometimes think he adds the long draggy conversation scenes in just because he knows everyone's waiting for 'action!' etc. which might be giving him too much leeway, I mean god knows he's a guy who loves the sound of his own voice/his own words coming out of other ppls mouths.

but I think he knows that his fans know that a loooooong talky scene usually pays off with something p cool afterwards.

but i mean he does that in a lot of different ways, too. like for example [uh SPOILERS i guess] setting up the big hugo stiglitz introductory set-piece and then the guy takes a bullet in the face or whatever before we even really get to see him do anything.

the parts where they talk to each other are the best and tensest parts of ib!!

i mean again you don't have to like it or even agree that it has any value beyond qt fucking around on harvey's dime but it's there.

the conversation btw landa and the farmer, the conversation btw landa and shoshanna, and the scene w/ fassbender at the pub are IBs peaks imo. the movies politics & ethics aside those are pretty unbelievable scenes for generating tension and interest through 15 minutes of dialogue

max otm -- the dialogue scenes in IB are great, tension-wise

that goddamn strudel scene stressed me the fuck out

Those are all peaks, but anyone who doesn't say QT's restaging of Carrie's prom scene is that movie's peak can gtfo.

is that movie's PRIME peak, I mean

yeah max otm (xp)

pub scene is peak of the film imo

altho yeah theater apocalypse works on so many levels. I dunno

the parts where they talk to each other are the best and tensest parts of ib!!

― max, Wednesday, December 12, 2012 11:49 AM (7 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

these are written like a 9th grader's idea of a tense dialogue tho.

idk just about every choice in that movie rubbed me the wrong way but it's been long enough the whys and wherefores are hazy now.

nah no way man

yeah i don't understand how anyone could find those scenes lacking in tension, 9th grade version or otherwise

it's easily the best stuff he ever wrote, dialogue-wise, too

c'mon the explanation of film critic's obscure accent is k-lassic

well, tension is one quality, good is another i guess. i'm not arguing the former!

i mean i laughed out loud when landa shifted the dialogue into english in the farm because it was just so good

“Am I the story of the Negro in America?"

QT fans' biggest problem is that it takes well over half the movie before Django gets to one of those "building tension through incongruously flowery dialogue" setpieces. Up to that point, they'll have to be sustained by the n-word.

― Zero Dark 33⅓: The Final Insult (Eric H.), Wednesday, December 12, 2012 12:33 PM (46 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Good enough for Drudge, good enough for me tbqh

http://mediamatters.org/static/images/item/drudge-20121212-tarantino.jpg

oh my god

all the awesome touches in IB, and how it felt like he finally had coalesced all of his 'signature' bits and pieces into a pretty brilliant take on a war movie...I mean, IB on its own is good enough reason to be p excited about Django

lol, Drudge otm

Drudge would rather have Django back in chains!

-- Joe Biden

i am with goole wrt IB, but i think i have broadcasted that loud and clear on ilx many times.

the pub scene in IB is arguably imo the best scene in any tarantino film.

Of course i think his strongest run is both kill bills and deathproof, so i might have gone in with unfair expectations of continued rising awesomeness

maybe watch sumpin good like Mandingo

the conversation btw landa and the farmer, the conversation btw landa and shoshanna, and the scene w/ fassbender at the pub are IBs peaks imo. the movies politics & ethics aside those are pretty unbelievable scenes for generating tension and interest through 15 minutes of dialogue

This is all the movie is -- at least that's all I watch.

i remember when KB2 came out i was annoyed with the long conversations (and 'tino in general), but he really perfected the approach in IB imo

definitely