Skyfall: Bond #23

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and two cents.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

ahah, of course.
that said, I suppose if we analyzed all the other bonds, it wuoldn't make much more sense !

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

what makes you think it would be the first time bond's been analyzed

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 16:55 (thirteen years ago)

oh not saying it's the first time ever. jsut talking about ILX (and I haven't checked if there are other threads analyzing Bond !).

AlXTC from Paris, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 17:14 (thirteen years ago)

lol deems

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 17:20 (thirteen years ago)

like the whole bond girl plot bothers me a lot, there is absolutely nothing in the sequence of events that involves her that makes sense on any level

And the dismissive execution was ugly even by Bond-movie standards -- as my gf noted, you're supposed to take Bond's lack of reaction like he's just playing it cool, but that only works if at some later point there's some kind of reference back to it to allow sufficient horror or anger or something to be shown. Instead it was just kinda, "Yeah, well ... look, helicopters! Who's the tough guy now?"

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

yeah I think they need to either double down on nihilistic antihero bond or go full hero, but instead he’s a total nihilist who gets awkwardly framed as a hero

iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 17:53 (thirteen years ago)

i wonder if there's a personal project that Mendes has had in a drawer somewhere, which he'll now be allowed to make because his last film made close to a billion dollars.

piscesx, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:32 (thirteen years ago)

it's goin over a billion

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 18:36 (thirteen years ago)

didya notice they cut away from Finney before he had to get through the secret tunnel door?

― saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, December 12, 2012 10:47 AM (4 hours ago) Bookmark

lol

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:20 (thirteen years ago)

they set the "bros before hos" tone of nu-bond in casino royale.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:38 (thirteen years ago)

has there ever been a bondbabe w/ a bleaker life story?

1. child slave prostitute
2. henchman frees her and I guess uses her as flex honeypot / possibly for spy-sexual purposes
3. she is in a casino and meets bond and is like 'no I can't take you to my bosses headquarters'
4. sleeps w/ bond
5. takes him to bosses headquarters where he will get killed, which is basically what boss wanted right
6. boss still kills her for basically no reason
7. bond laughs about it

iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

If there'd been a seat in front of me I would have started kicking it in frustration when he got in that shower w her.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:49 (thirteen years ago)

well, there was the one two movies ago who drowned herself in an elevator out of guilt after betraying her country to try to save her boyfriend, who was really just an enemy agent playing her anyway

mh, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)

yeah they really could have just added 5 seconds of 'bond seduces her' to that scene instead of having him just appear out of nowhere naked

iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:53 (thirteen years ago)

They could have added the MEREST HINT OF CONSENT ON HER PART, really.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

kind of find it hard to believe that any woman finds being in the arms of James Bond safe or comforting

mh, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:54 (thirteen years ago)

that is all very Goldfingerish, whaddya want in 48 years, progress?

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

"Oh, you are trying to meet the most horrible person I know. And I saw you kill a guy. And you obviously got out of a deadly situation with violence to get here. I feel so comfortable around you!"

mh, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)

well there was *consent* tbh but it's bad to give the idea that appearing out of nowhere in a stranger's shower is likely going to lead to consent

xp

iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

I guess this comes from the Maxim school of thought that I heard a comedy bit about -- women like danger, right? If they could, they'd date a fire.

mh, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:56 (thirteen years ago)

xp Yes, true. There wasn't consent for him invading her space or peeping on her in the shower, though. Those are both not-okay activities.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

I just misread that as "peeing on her in the shower" and thought I missed something

mh, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:57 (thirteen years ago)

would you guys have liked it better if the shower silhouette was of a komodo dragon to give a fake scare before it resolved itself into bond?

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

I would have liked it better if he seduced a komodo dragon taking a shower

iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:58 (thirteen years ago)

should have turned out to be m in the shower for full dramatic effect

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

yeah, movie really needed an oedipal angle

mh, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

he could woo the dragon with a bucket of chirping insects which the dragon devours messily and bond can go, "that's not very cricket."

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 20:59 (thirteen years ago)

loool

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

L, how many Sean Connery Bonds have you seen? biz as usual fer that guy.

Yeah, the New Gritty Bond, w/ komodo dragons eating squat Asian henchmen.

ew mook

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:00 (thirteen years ago)

THE CHINATOWN OF JAMES BOND SEX SCENES

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

Next movie should be an all komodo dragon cast, Lancelot Link style.

Gollum: "Hot, Ready and Smeagol!" (Phil D.), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:01 (thirteen years ago)

As I said upthread when I first commented after seeing, I think Bond as played by Craig deserved better.

grossly incorrect register (in orbit), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

otm

iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:02 (thirteen years ago)

since Dench is the only woman Bond cries over, I guess he'd be a sucker for Exotic Marigold Hotel.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:03 (thirteen years ago)

can we both agree that the bladerunner-esque shanghai sneak-up and fight was awesome though

yeah, str8 up homage to collateral by my lights

ah, I KNEW there must be a reason I was underwhelmed!

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:22 (thirteen years ago)

that never required a reason before

mookieproof, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

That was one of many scenes where I thought "just shoot him with your gun!"

pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:24 (thirteen years ago)

I dunno mook, I thought the Connery-Robert Shaw fight in From Russia with Love was fine w/out an installation from MoMA @MGM Grand behinsd them.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:53 (thirteen years ago)

yeah that's maybe my fave bond action scene, brutal

first u get the flower, then u get the honey, then u get the stamen (darraghmac), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:57 (thirteen years ago)

That was one of many scenes where I thought "just shoot him with your gun!"

― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Wednesday, December 12, 2012 4:24 PM (25 minutes ago) Bookmark

i was thinking about the scene where silva's captured right after he killed Severine, and why didnt bond just kill him there? there's nobody above him that they need him to lead them to, no plot of his that still needed to be foiled, bond just saw him cruelly murder a woman & then dispatched all his henchmen. hes got a license to kill! but the movie needed silva to be alive to have a silence of the lambs scene with M, sooo

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 21:58 (thirteen years ago)

well they still had to prevent him from releasing the undercover agents names, which was presumably automatic?

I love how it was just youtube videos and youtube didn't take them down

iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:01 (thirteen years ago)

man there really is just not a single thing in this movie that made sense

iatee, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:02 (thirteen years ago)

oh yeah i forgot about that dumbass crap

turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

lol i never thought of that.

before and after broscience (goole), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:04 (thirteen years ago)

in Bondworld, youtube is free-speech-absolutist.

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

did anyone think of Julian Assange for a sec despite the prerelease PR btw

saltwater incursion (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:05 (thirteen years ago)

AllahuAkbarVEVO

before and after broscience (goole), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

Javier's hair did keep him in my mind

Roobarb and Custos (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:06 (thirteen years ago)

man there really is just not a single thing in this movie that made sense

― iatee, 12. december 2012 23:02 (22 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I kind of like that. Who cares about plot in action films anyway? It's not a film riddled with plotholes, it's film where absolutely nothing makes sense, from the premise of a computer with all the agents names on it, to the end where the bad guy wins. I like it. The misogony is a bit more disturbing, though.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 22:31 (thirteen years ago)


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