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mallard fillmore makes a goddamn snail darter joke; god save us all

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:44 (twenty years ago)

snail darter, a small, rare fish, Percina tanasi, discovered by a zoologist who was snorkeling in the Little Tennessee River upstream from the projected Tellico Dam. Dam opponents, including Native American tribes who would see their burial grounds flooded, fought successfully to include the darter on the Endangered Species List in 1975 (see endangered species), and the dam was halted. In 1978, the Supreme Court sided with environmentalists, but Congress declared the fish nonendangered and the Tellico was built. Snail darters are classified in the phylum Chordata, subphylum Vertebrata, class Osteichthyes, order Percomorphi, family Percidae.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:58 (twenty years ago)

That was the most surreal thing I've seen on TV since Twin Peaks.

― Sonneywolferinecastleee (Leee), Saturday, 19 November 2005 07:27 (twenty years ago)

I didn't like the ending, though. The sheriff is just going to watch the house, and not actually going to do anything to the parents?

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Saturday, 19 November 2005 14:25 (twenty years ago)

they had me with Rodney being the kid, but the Grace revelation blew me away. veronica getting her eyes covered by the mayor's daughter was a nice touch too.

― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Saturday, 19 November 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

This one must set a record for most drawn-out opening title sequence in television history for a one-hour show. My VLC player says the last one comes twelve minutes in!

Best Veronica Mars in ages, btw, maybe ever?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 05:18 (twenty years ago)

It seemed out of place - like it should have been two or three episodes ago. Very good, of course, but strange that it referred back to events that have been completely ignored for a couple of weeks and set up new plots that probably won't be referred to again.

Steve Guttenberg is still terrible, but I imagine the fight over his new richie-city vs. poor-county plan is going to be entertaining. Will Keith bite the hand that fed him, or will he sign on to police the city?

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 21 November 2005 05:22 (twenty years ago)

Steve Guttenberg terrifies me in this show. His neck is distracting.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 05:24 (twenty years ago)

Only thing wrong with latest ep = irresistible tessa thompson and cool-as-cucumber francis capra both m.i.a. (i don't mind wallace being gone, actually, he bugs me for some reason. it was probably just his atrocious singing that time he met his dad in the supermarket.)

does anybody else think it's weird that veronica is basically dating an asshole, who we are asked to root for no less?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

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― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:33 (twenty years ago)

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― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

oh francis!!

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

That was a pretty special episode there, i think.

― jeffrey (johnson), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 01:59 (twenty years ago)

Steve Guttenberg terrifies me in this show.

He is! He really scares me.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 02:05 (twenty years ago)

well, they kinda teased the charisma carpenter/duncan thing, but it's hard to get a read off anything from that last episode. but yeah even that, he's just a jock and not that particularly sensitive, funny or bright. she *was* an 09er, i guess.

― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:08 (twenty years ago)

The friendship between Veronica and Wallace didn't seem as well-written through the end of last year and into this one. With Duncan and Logan in the picture, he pops up more as a plot device, less as her confidant/best friend.

Tessa is/was a terrible actress.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:57 (twenty years ago)

Maybe that's because, essentially, the show is filtered through V's eyes, and her eyes failed to see Gromit as more than a means to an end only towards the end of the season when OMG WE ARE BFF!

― Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 04:28 (twenty years ago)

just watching ep 6, now

I wish they'd stop saying ibeeza

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

i'm sorry.

― jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 24 November 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

ibeeza, ibeeza, ibeeza

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 24 November 2005 00:30 (twenty years ago)

Americans would never be so pretentious as to poorly ape the Spanish pronunciation in some desperate bid for sophistication.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 November 2005 01:18 (twenty years ago)

Isn't the local name Eivissa (eye-vee-sa)? Ibeeza is a lot closer than Ibbeetha.

― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 24 November 2005 02:58 (twenty years ago)

I'm just kidding, we totally would be like that.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 November 2005 03:25 (twenty years ago)

I watched all of S1 this past weekend and JESUS CHRIST I AM STUPID FOR MISSING THIS LAST YEAR. I want to personally thank Mel and all other like-minded soulds for bugging enough people to watch this that it got a second season; I won't let you down again, I promise!

p.s. Who gives a shit about Lost? My problem with the Wednesday 9 p.m. timeslot is that it falls at the same time as MythBusters!

― J (Jay), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:46 (twenty years ago)

http://television.aol.com/feature/veronica_mars_tv

Alternate ending of the last episode.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 06:07 (twenty years ago)

Booo, the alternate ending is kind of lame.

I'm willing to bet the kid isn't Duncan's - it's too easy, the parallels between Duncan/Veronica and Jake/Lianne and everything. They're setting it up so that Duncan looks like a dick, but comes out clean in the end.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 06:16 (twenty years ago)

Alternate ending not available for non-Americans

― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

At the end, the mother of the pregnant girl comes in and smothers her daughter (while Veronica hides behind a curtain), Veronica goes over to pick up the pillow and a nurse walks in going "WHAT DID YOU DO?"

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:09 (twenty years ago)

Okay...I don't understand the point of the alternate ending...

― Gukbe (lokar), Saturday, 3 December 2005 02:56 (twenty years ago)

They were voting to see which was more popular (and would determine the storyline, presumably). Veronica would be accused of murder, have to prove her innocence, etc.

I'm glad they didn't go that route.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Saturday, 3 December 2005 03:39 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that sounds like something Lost would do!!! OMg1!

― Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Saturday, 3 December 2005 04:00 (twenty years ago)

There was no point to the alternate ending and it was never intended to be part of the continuity. It's just a weird little gimmick.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Saturday, 3 December 2005 10:34 (twenty years ago)

"Yeah, that sounds like something Lost would do!!! OMg1!"

I don't know, I mean, it would involve having to actually kill someone off.

― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Saturday, 3 December 2005 21:25 (twenty years ago)

Here's the URL, maybe this will work for non-US people? - http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/aolentertainment/tv/2005/filtered/upn/veronica_mars_alternate_ending_113005_dl.mov

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 20:33 (twenty years ago)

"Bright Morning Stars Are Rising" -- nice.

The last two episodes have been great, if a little confusing.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 20:42 (twenty years ago)

I've never read this thread because I only got started on the 1st season DVDs recently -- awaiting disks 3 & 4 now from Netflix and I could just jump up and down with impatience. WHY OH WHY DIDN'T I LIST THEM NEXT?! It does occasionally recall Buffy, mostly just in snippets of dialogue or V's delivery in certain moments, but not in any way that makes my eyeballs roll under the furniture so that's all right. And isn't her dad the living BEST?!

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 4 December 2005 20:54 (twenty years ago)

Any word on a third season yet? I know the ratings still suck, but you'd think UPN enjoys the positive press.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 4 December 2005 20:56 (twenty years ago)

I hear next year the show will be placed against Desperate Housewives.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 4 December 2005 21:19 (twenty years ago)

Laurel is right about things.

― jeffrey (johnson), Sunday, 4 December 2005 21:20 (twenty years ago)

Charisma Carpenter is really fantastic in this.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:31 (twenty years ago)

Is Alyson Hannigan a terrible actress or just doing a fine job playing a terrible actress?

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:32 (twenty years ago)

You mean fantastit?

― Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:33 (twenty years ago)

If you have to ask...

xpost that too!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:34 (twenty years ago)

VERONICA
Kind of a weird question, but is that your real hair color, Astrid?

ASTRID
You're right -- that is a weird question.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

"Chicks dig scars and acronyms."

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:38 (twenty years ago)

"Oh, you're... being a jackass! It must be an even-numbered day. I do so prefer the odd-numbered days when you're kissing my ass for a favor."

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 22:42 (twenty years ago)

VERONICA
Flatulent sound effects for me???

CINDY
And bitter ranting for me!

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 23:02 (twenty years ago)

Is that Mac's real name, Cindy?

So are Mac and the rich kid going to hit it?

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 4 December 2005 23:04 (twenty years ago)

Her name is Cindy MacKenzie.

I really really hope not.

UPN's Veronica Mars site is a joke, by the way.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 23:07 (twenty years ago)

My big plan is to buy this somewhere on the Upper West Side today.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 5 December 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

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