chubster
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:06 (sixteen years ago) link
gosh, I don't think that's what Lethem meant by it. Maybe I will report back on this. It's in the last quarter or so of TFoS, when Dylan Ebdus, invisible, sees a female prison guard and thinks admiringly that she's zaftig.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:18 (sixteen years ago) link
margaret had a great gig about how her producers were telling her she was zaftig. and then at a restaurant she heard the waitress say "zaftig, perhaps?" but really she was saying "a soft drink, perhaps?"
mwahaha
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:39 (sixteen years ago) link
yeah, it means thick in the good way.
― Jordan, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:45 (sixteen years ago) link
Curvy, soft. Pudgy maybe but in an erm extremely feminine way. Alternately it could just mean "busty".
― Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:46 (sixteen years ago) link
Also I don't know if you'd call a petite girl with a big rack "zaftig", I feel like there are connotations of stature as well, like, y'know "a lot of woman".
― Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:47 (sixteen years ago) link
sounds like my kind of tig, I mean, ting, I mean, thing.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:52 (sixteen years ago) link
so is like rose mcgowan a good example of zaftig or is she still too skinny?
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Far too skinny surely!
― Tom D., Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:59 (sixteen years ago) link
She's not remotely chubby, is she?
― Tom D., Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:00 (sixteen years ago) link
A famously nearly nude Hollywood starlet like RMcG? Totally, totally way way too skinny unless you mean merely in comparison to a runway model.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:02 (sixteen years ago) link
no, especeially not these days, but she's always pulled off that beautiful voluptuous thing
right, right, i know you're right.
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Jess needs to be here to properly define this
― kingfish, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:03 (sixteen years ago) link
Charlotte Church?
― Tom D., Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:04 (sixteen years ago) link
RIP Jess's definitions
― Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:07 (sixteen years ago) link
Re Charlotte Church, a quick GIS says "maybe, depending on which photo yer talking about" to me.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link
She is zaftig these days
― Tom D., Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link
The point is sort of that zaftig is a folk term, and was born from the Ashkenazic population of sort of famously peasant-y Eastern Europeans (I think, don't ask me to trace it back any farther). I would say that a) it's all relative, and b) there's an essential earthiness or hmm... suggestion of bounty, fertility.
― Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:14 (sixteen years ago) link
sounds otm to me
― Surmounter, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:15 (sixteen years ago) link
zaf·tig Audio Help /ˈzɑftɪk, -tɪg/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[zahf-tik, -tig] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –adjective Slang. 1. Gianna Michaels, fer real
― yungblut, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:16 (sixteen years ago) link
http://bengals.hp.infoseek.co.jp/pict/past_player/ickey_shuffle03.jpg
180 lbs isn't fat! Not if you're tall, anyway. I mean it's not skinny, either...was that article written by an R. Crumb of 1918?
― Abbott, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 18:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Funnily enough I was watching the new American Gladiators show last night and they give height and weight for the glads -- and none of the women was admitted to be over 155 lbs even though they ranged from 5'7" to 5'10" and clearly all had shoulders and thighs the size of quarterbacks'. I do respectfully suggest that that is extremely unlikely; 180 sounds far more probable (and healthful).
― Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 18:27 (sixteen years ago) link
i would suggest that you are right about that
― rrrobyn, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 18:39 (sixteen years ago) link
are fat girls really sluttier??
― homosexual II, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 19:03 (sixteen years ago) link
okay, SLUTTIER is not the word. easier to get in the sack?
i guess as a ZAFTIG girl myself I should know the answer to that
― homosexual II, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 19:04 (sixteen years ago) link
Googled for the legernd that is George Pesante and found that the article is from a 1962 bongo mag:
http://www.erosblog.com/2008/07/17/chubby-girl-1962/
(nsfw pic, btw)
― Bodrick III, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 19:34 (sixteen years ago) link