New Apple Lust Objects for 2010 and onward

still, conceptually, they probably see the playlists more like they see a list items in a finder window. Something to be automatically sorted, not personalized and organized.

well i mean the finder used to be spatial until OS X.

i mean it would be a pretty major rethink of the itunes UI, and obviously apple is trying to make everything look like a suedette webpage these days, but i would be interested.

I'm confused - we're just talking about reordering the playlists in the sidebar, right? that's like the most minor change I can think of. Am amazed it doesn't work, tbh

yeah i'm making a more general point that you can or could reorganize stuff much more dramatically (ugh) than in the new finder sidebar, and it seems like a problem where, if all your arranging is 100s of similar items (just playlists, nothing like the complexity of the finder) it should be pretty easy.

also lol apple UI design since 2000.

you're

oh man now I'm ready to burn Apple down to the ground. You can no longer open playlists in their own windows. I spend half my waking hours with multiple playlists open, in windows tiled in different monitors, so I can compare playlists and move songs between them. This is brutal and is really really going to piss me off if they don't put that back. Other people are complaining.

damn that sucks

oof hadnt noticed that one! SUCKS!

not that I ever use that functionality but it's stupid to remove it

can you select and move multiple playlists at once yet? that infuriates me: they finally gave us the option to store playlists in folders but you have to move them all in there one at a time? FFFFFUUUU apple like srs

*smashes fist on table*

actually... i'm kinda glad they removed the pop out window functionality. i always used it by accidentally double clicking the playlist area.

has anyone figured out how to drag songs from your library onto your manually-managed ipod

no

just figured out you have to open the column sidebar to do that

oh man now I'm ready to burn Apple down to the ground. You can no longer open playlists in their own windows. I spend half my waking hours with multiple playlists open, in windows tiled in different monitors, so I can compare playlists and move songs between them. This is brutal and is really really going to piss me off if they don't put that back. Other people are complaining.

― dan selzer, Tuesday, December 4, 2012 8:30 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah this is huge.

i've been a mac user for all of 3 weeks and it works and it's totally cush and i have no real problem with the new itunes but apple's horizontal monopoly on media management is tighter than i thought. seems like there could be a prosumer library management alternative to itunes out there but it's tumbleweeds as far as i can tell.

oh well *sorts by makeshift album artist scheme*

so this is what the post-jobs era looks like

quite good hardware, negligible product innovation, hilariously bad software

hey... can you guys post more details about what kind of music library features you like? because if it's something that can be coded up in 10 minutes...

Was thinking that too. The problem is syncing w/iPod, which is a must, I'd think.

there are a few lightweight iTunes replacement apps I've checked out in the past, no syncing w/ iPod/Phone but maybe preferable for some.

I'm mostly happy with the changes (other than that big one mentioned above), but I also question the design. It's more "colorful" but kinda "eh". I hope this isn't the result of Ive taking over interface design. I want my software to look like a Braun razor and with no drop shadows. Maybe I just want everything to look like Windows 8, though I've read complaints that they went to far and icons and UX are confusing.

I don't know what the ideal clean/modern/intuitive interface looks like to be honest. Maybe something closer to Abelton Live.

I think I don't like the subte 3d qualities. The gradient shade/glow in the info window for instance, though maybe I'd miss it when i's gone. Meanwhile those fancy arrows that bring up the fancy new pop-up next to the song name just has the same options, minus 1 or 2, as right clicking on them.

I hope this isn't the result of Ive taking over interface design.

too late for ive to have any impact other than removing paper shredders, surely

Wouldn't it be great if the reason iTunes was delayed was because Ive took over and found out they had a view of albums sitting on wooden shelves and he demanded it be removed before release?

even worse, it was CDs in jewel cases.

Oh my

you slid out and unfolded the cover, with virtual gingers

virtual FINGERS

sigh

http://news.cnet.com/8301-13579_3-57556548-37/7-features-apple-killed-off-in-itunes-11/

I just downloaded 6 itunes alternatives, installed them, saw that they were terrible and didn't have the feature I needed, and deleted them all.

mpd is the true nerd's music player of choice. But it definitely won't manage your iPhone library.

I noticed the lack of gapless playback. Bummer. Also, I can change an mp3 to be an audiobook but not a podcast. When I change the file type nothing happens.

maybe YOU're the one that changes

the only piece of software i'm jealous that winblows lusers get is foobar2000

it still hangs when you're trying to sync with files on a drive that isn't connected. it's been doing this for what, 10 years?

god foobar2000 rules, so does media monkey.

media monkey for windows xp r.i.p, it's on to the bladerunner future from here.

I noticed the lack of gapless playback. Bummer.

― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, December 5, 2012 9:22 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Wait this is the new itunes you're talking about or one of the alternative apps?

new itunes. Gapless playback has disappeared from the options tab. Totally sucks ass.

SUPPOSEDLY the only thing that checkbox ever did was override whatever setting you had for crossfading between tracks. so if you don't have itunes crossfade normally you should be fine. there's an article about it somewhere.

Hm. Basically all I care about is whether e.g. the transition from the 2nd to the 3rd movement of the Beethoven "waldstein" sonata will still play without a gap, even if I can't tell itunes via that check box that those tracks are gapless.

Is anyone a Clementine user?

T-Mobile USA just announced they'll finally be selling the iPhone and iPad at some unspecified time in 2013. They've been busy moving their reasonably fast HSPA+ network to frequencies the iPhone can use over the last year, and will start rolling out their LTE network next year as well.

I think gapless playback is still there, there's just an option missing in one of the menus

http://www.ilounge.com/index.php/articles/comments/gapless-playback-in-itunes-11/

as lukas said

So if I import a mixed album (with tracks) using a different encoder, how does it know to play it back gaplessly?

it doesnt, also by doing so you have voided the warranty on your computer

Stepping back a couple of days:

I think the answer was to go to the little magnifying glass and switch search from "Entire Library" to "All". This appears to make search work like it used to, and is definitely improved my performance on an external drive

This doesn't seem to work since it was already set to both those, "Entire Library" AND "All." So...hmm.

Again, for those wondering: I am trying to determine why iTunes essentially locks up on me when trying to do a search when my actual library file is only 85 MB, but the music itself is located on an external drive.

click on "entire Library" again. It will deselct it.

Thank ya. Out and about but will try again when home.