showtime's Homeland =[a tolerable claire danes, mandy patinkin & that girl from firefly naked]

that was awesome how they killed the vp and brody was so into it

i'm not really sure why & how pacemakers can be wirelessly accessed to kill the people using them but hey i'm all for creative deaths. question now is whether carrie's got more love for brody or the usa, will she rat him out ?

also, unless i missed something, wasn't brody's phone being monitored all the time by quinn & friends ? sure, they got abu nazir's team but they still don't have the main target and brody was their main link to nazir so it's pretty unfortunate that they stop surveillance just when abu nazir calls brody.

seemed like carrie already decided not to tell abt brody murking the vp otherwise she prob wouldve said something to saul on the phone

xp - <3 this show, but it really does reveal itself to be quite a house of cards plot-wise when you start to ask questions like that.

seems like itd be p easy to figure out brody did it w/some minimal investigating even if they werent monitoring his phone

the impt message to send out to saul was that abu nazir was hiding out in an abandoned factory (i'm hoping for a robocop style season finale) and maybe she felt trying to explain the pacemaker thing on the phone would have made her sound like (even more of) a crazy person. ok, yeah i guess she has sided with brody.
anyways yeah, questioning this show's plot points leads to a lot of eye rolling

feel like 'abu nazir is abt to assassinate the vice president right now' could be considered a p important message

yeah but vp was a dick so it's ok not to tell saul.

ha yeah i was kinda thinking everyones just whistling pretending they didnt see anything because that guys so awful

the impt message to send out to saul was that abu nazir was hiding out in an abandoned factory (i'm hoping for a robocop style season finale)

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thx, now I am enjoying the mental image of this dude ^ stumbling around drenched head-to-toe in toxic waste.

anyways yeah, questioning this show's plot points leads to a lot of eye rolling

yup last two episodes have been great even though there are tons of parts where I'm shouting "wha???"

like not telling Saul the VP's about to get killed, or Brody standing in a hotel room yelling "NAZIR!!!!!" at his phone when there are probably Secret Service minders right out in the hall

Is Estes trying to protect against some type of "Bush did 9/11" reveal where they have deeper involvement with Nazir somehow? Just bombing the madrassa with a drone strike doesn't seem like a big enough secret to go deep black-ops to prevent it coming out ...

feel like killing brody would kinda be the way to go even w/o that drone strike, i mean yr just gonna let this terrorist wander around america

i'm hoping for a robocop style season finale

lol otm

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doesnt end well for crying carrie tho :(

for a sec i thought brody was going to spill all the beans to walden and then pacemaker geek's internet would cut out

p amazing how a dude doing secret stuff in a room before someone comes in never gets boring

they've probably done that every single episode and i've always been GET OUT BRODY GET OUT AHHH

for a sec i thought brody was going to spill all the beans to walden and then pacemaker geek's internet would cut out

haha yeah exactly. I was like "what if he lives??"

p amazing how a dude doing secret stuff in a room before someone comes in never gets boring

xp - yeah, I'm pretty much a total patsy for that stock gimmick myself.

i had a good laugh when brody started looking for a magnifying glass to make him all detective-y. if only walden had not had a magnifying glass in his office, he would have lived and brody would have gone on a revenge mission against nazir for killing carrie. i'm trying to imagine the convo between nazir and brody:
-giveme the number or i kill carrie
-i can't... i can't read the number it's too small
we hear a couple of shots fired

galvez is totally the mole, isnt he. shit. i mean COME ON he's out of the hospital and WHOOPS major fuckup on catching nazir

heh http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2012/12/a-homeland-conspiracy-theory.html

That theory seems... plausible? Damian Lewis' bug-eyed performance on the phone with Nazir did seem a little off. I've rarely, if ever, correctly predicted where this show is going, though, so I'm looking forward to wherever it leads, no matter how batshit.

probably one for "too much time on ilx" that i thought dude's name was darragh dhal right

http://www.vulture.com/2012/12/homelands-chris-is-asked-to-leave-the-room.html

lol

btw what was up w two handed hearts, not a real game

no you don't get it, it was a metaphor for how brody keeps breaking chris' heart

huge lols at damien lewis mega-acting

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huge lols at damien lewis mega-acting

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Haha yes, lots of unintentional hilarity this season.

like every time they're like "no carrie is unstable and will be not useful" and then she's right, _again_.

you're not much of a CIA agent if you're going to let the murder of the vice president slide without telling anybody, though

also I guess some of this stuff was meant to have happened off screen but didn't the CIA want to debrief Carrie at all after she was face to face with the world's #1 terrorist for hours?

didn't it raise eyebrows at the CIA that a known terrorist (whose previous plot was to kill the vice president) happened to be with the Vice President at the time he died?

Frankly, if they don't explain how Nasir got into the US I'll have to rejigger my expectations.

all of that said, dope episode (xp to myself)

Brody gets away with a lot, tbh.

I was glad they had Carrie fail with Roya

after they "oops" just left the room unattended so that a non-employee of the CIA could chat with a high-level terror suspect

they're not exactly running a tight ship over there apparently

i kept hoping theyd throw us a bone re brodys phone not being tapped during conspiracy to assassinate the vice president video conference, like nasir was using snapchat or something

he was using skype I think

Had some yucks at the literally crying over spilt milk scene. And by yucks I mean guffaws.

i feel like the idea of estes as a hawkish, powermad cia agent, extragovernmentally ordering hits through a sense of duty, is quietly the most interesting premise this show has had for a while

the hole in the plot is that anyone would care that they killed some kids going after the #1 terrorist

feel like they couldve come up w a better scandal than that

idk, i'm always thrown by this show getting so much praise for being ~thoughtful~ & an antidote to 24 & for casting doubt on the ethics of ends justfying means, &c, with the bones getting thrown in that direction - usually by the blunt embrace of profiling by staff - seeming sorta obligatory or one-note. but estes being indignant & like "renegade" would be really interesting i think. way more room for table-thumping you can't handle the truth theatrics.

the weirdest thing to me was how the vice president dying, even if most people didn't know he was murdered, seemed like not that big a deal.

no i agree that its an interesting turn, just that the incident itself couldve been a lil more compelling xp

its just cause everyone in the world hates the vp and was hoping he would die