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There's some quicksilver Mail.app plug in. Does that do the trick?

Alba (Alba), Sunday, 14 January 2007 16:13 (nineteen years ago)

OMG, cntl-scrollwheel is brilliant!

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 14 January 2007 17:54 (nineteen years ago)

http://hmatt.com/mac/macbookfreeware.html

Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Sunday, 14 January 2007 19:14 (nineteen years ago)

I've never used quicksilver...thinking about it but I'm really trying to lighten things up here. I have a first generation Mac G5 single processor, from when they were first released. I have 1 gig of RAM. It used to be speedy but by now it's terrible. I know I've bloated up with stuff, but I also try to work with all the extras off....I don't complain about speed when I've got Slimserver and all this stuff running. I know I need more RAM and soon as I can afford it, I'm gonna max it out as much as I can, but I'm looking for software solutions.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 14 January 2007 20:37 (nineteen years ago)

Have you, you know, done the thing with the thing? Disk permissions?

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 14 January 2007 21:00 (nineteen years ago)

I have a first generation Mac G5 single processor, from when they were first released. I have 1 gig of RAM

??!

i've got a G4 powerbook with 768MB and stuff zooms. the only thing that occasionally fails to zoom is firefox, which can occasionally get sticky, but i can forgive it.

what does your process viewer thing (can't remember the name of the app, and am at work using OS FUCKING 9 IN AN OLD-SKOOL STYLEE, so can't check) say is causing the problem?

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 14 January 2007 21:04 (nineteen years ago)

stuff is generally fast...but I do a lot of heavy graphics stuff...hi-res photoshop and whatnot.

but are you using Tiger? even basic desktop stuff gets slow...but that's often when I've had Photoshop and other memory intensive programs active.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 14 January 2007 21:08 (nineteen years ago)

but there could be any number of things messing me up, for instance for Font Management I use a free program from Linotype...maybe it's buggy, I dunno.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Sunday, 14 January 2007 21:09 (nineteen years ago)

i'm using 10.4.8 - but no, i don't do any intensive image-processing stuff.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 14 January 2007 21:17 (nineteen years ago)

quicksilver mail plugin + address book plugin = soooo amazing.

I set it up so that I can select a file, launch quicksilver, press s (for send) and then type 2 letters of the person's name from my address book and it sends them the file, without even starting mail.app


also, get the web search plugin, i think it's called. It has like 350 built in websites, so you do like quicksilver -> imdb -> "whatever" and it does it.

five roses (Elliot), Sunday, 14 January 2007 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

ever since like, the last five builds, quicksilver indexes my drive ad infinitum. which is sad, because I love the app and it won't work.

don weiner (don weiner), Sunday, 14 January 2007 22:48 (nineteen years ago)

Dan my checklist is:

1) Make sure that more than 10% of all hard drive space is free
2) Look at Activity Monitor and kill the stuff I installed like three months ago that I forgot about
3) Run Disk Utility and repair disk permissions
4) Restart

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 14 January 2007 23:12 (nineteen years ago)

I've heard good things about Onyx to clean shit up, but I haven't used it, so I can't give any detail as to what it does exactly.

five roses (Elliot), Sunday, 14 January 2007 23:18 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah it does what it says. There are lots of programs like that but I can't tell they do much that OS X doesn't just do all by itself.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Sunday, 14 January 2007 23:23 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone know of a way to prevent sleep when you close the lid of a portable? There's a program called InsomniaX which doesn't work with 10.4.8, and another called Sleepless, which only works halfway.

def zep (calstars), Monday, 15 January 2007 04:19 (nineteen years ago)

I thought that since most Mac laptops dissipate heat through their keyboards, keeping them awake while closed would be a bad idea.

max (maxreax), Monday, 15 January 2007 04:20 (nineteen years ago)

grr and realizing that quicksilver won't search mail anyway.

i guess the other solution is to enable spotlight and restrict it from indexing anything but my email. email searching totally shouldn't have to be this complicated. back in terminal days when i had a whole buncha folders and stuff i could just grep thru it all like presto.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 15 January 2007 04:25 (nineteen years ago)

could always switch to thunderbird i guess. just want a low memory footprint and basic filtering and searching... actually i really miss just using a nice setup of mutt now that i think about it.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 15 January 2007 04:27 (nineteen years ago)

this is awesome:

http://harnly.net/software/letterbox/

much better way to view messages in mail. You see more emails and more of the selected email.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 15 January 2007 04:57 (nineteen years ago)

looking at my activity monitor...

why does Safari take 342 meg of memory and 963 megs of virtual?

what is Kernel Task?

I look at the activity monitor but I don'd know what most of it is/means!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Monday, 15 January 2007 05:14 (nineteen years ago)

wow, letterbox is awesome! thanks a load for that.

i guess i need to try to get myself to obey tracer's 10% rule - my bittorrent addiction means i tend to have about 300 megs free on a 100 gig drive, and i'm sure that's not doing me any good.

toby (tsg20), Monday, 15 January 2007 08:58 (nineteen years ago)

Haha yeah toby that's a great way to make an expensive computer feel like it's 10 years old. It's crazy what a difference it makes. I think it's because virtual memory - "swap" space on your hard drive, essentially - is so built in to the way OS X operates that it thrashes interminably if it doesn't have the breathing room it needs.

Dan, I dunno why Safari takes up so much memory. You'll find that if you quit Safari and restart it, it's much nicer. Over time it develops this gargantuan appetite for RAM. Kernel Task is the central, core OS task, I believe. I read somewhere that if you've got a gig of memory and stuff is eating up a bunch of memory, that's OK, because you want your computer to actually USE all the memory available to it, rather than just letting it go to waste - i.e. if you only have Mail and Safari running, you could expect each of them to be using far more RAM than they would if other programs were open, too. So I don't know - it's hard to assess when it's a moving target.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

There are lots of programs like that but I can't tell they do much that OS X doesn't just do all by itself.

hmmm. X only runs its maintenance scripts if it happens to be switched on at 3am (or whenever), and they're not a patch on some of the deep cleaning onyx can do. sure, you can do all of it from the command line too, but why bother? onyx rocks.

grimly fiendish (grimlord), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:24 (nineteen years ago)

why does Safari take 342 meg of memory and 963 megs of virtual?

!!? What Tracer says is true about RAM usage creeping up with time but no matter how long I've had it running, I've never had it get up to anything like those figures. I use Opera more than Safari, but mostly it only uses about a tenth of what you're reporting (and when it's freshly launched it only grabs 13MB and 132MB virtual.

Alba (Alba), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

It's to do with Safari's memory cache, if I remember correctly (which is why it creeps up the more pages you open). I think you can disable it caching in memory.

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Monday, 15 January 2007 10:52 (nineteen years ago)

Anyone know why WebKit is supposed to be a good alternate to Safari?

def zep (calstars), Monday, 15 January 2007 14:01 (nineteen years ago)

def zep, I'm looking for the same thing. And their laptops run fine with the lid closed. When I'm at home, I leave my macbook closed in the corner of the room connected to a monitor and my stereo, and I use it with the remote and a mouse. Thing is, you need to have the power and an external monitor connected for this to work.

five roses (Elliot), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:31 (nineteen years ago)

looking for the same thing = way to not sleep on close

five roses (Elliot), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

Close the lid until it's just a couple of millimeters from closing and leave it there? A la the new James Bond in Judy Dench's place innit.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Monday, 15 January 2007 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

I thought you could specify a behaviour in System Preferences for when the lid was closed? Or did I make that up?

you win again, gravity! (tissp), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

apparently not, but I just tried and noticed how cool it looks when you search in system prefs!

five roses (Elliot), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

(ahh apple.. it doesn't do what I want, but it sure looks cool while not doing it!)

five roses (Elliot), Monday, 15 January 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

just remembered a great one...

appzapper

http://www.appzapper.com/

pre osX, I always knew where everything was and which extensions and control panels and prefs belonged to what, but OSX befuddles me. This is basically an uninstaller for anything, just drag the app to it's window and it finds all it's related files.

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 14:11 (nineteen years ago)

Nice! I used to use this thing called Yank but then I realized I had to pay for it.

Euai Kapaui (tracerhand), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:14 (nineteen years ago)

appzapper does 10 for free then it's like 14 dollars. I actually paid for it this morning, which is very rare around these parts!

It's funny, I also bought DiskWarrior....so the only two things I've ever paid for are programs to fix the problems created by installing tons of illegal software!

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

SSHFS for Darwin: http://mac.pqrs.org/sshfs/

Mount arbitrary remote filesystems over SSH. Doesn't work with Finder yet, but fine from the command line.

caek (caek), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 22:52 (nineteen years ago)

Also, http://code.google.com/p/macfuse/ does speak Finder, but its installation is a bit more involved.

caek (caek), Tuesday, 16 January 2007 22:55 (nineteen years ago)

Hi dere! I hate Quicksilver (after using it for 2.5 years!)

http://wizardishungry.com/blog/archive/why_i_uninstalled_quicksilver_dashboard_and_spotlight

Anyone with a less manly machine than mine who is using Quicksilver for anything successfully must have like 10 files in the catalog and no plugins. I've actually found that Spotlight does a better job than Quicksilver as an app launcher if you trim down what it will search in preferences (mainly, no music files). I *may* try quicksilver again, but it seems kind of pointless to use it if you're limited to using it as a glorified application launcher.

UART variations (ex machina), Friday, 19 January 2007 23:39 (nineteen years ago)

to whoever wants to run it closed: plug in a usb mouse or keyboard. close the lid. click on the mouse or press a button on the keyboard. there ya go.

s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 19 January 2007 23:50 (nineteen years ago)

I keep meaning to learn Quicksilver's extras, but beyond triggers to control iTunes, the calculator and app-launching I don't bother.

Especially not all the select-file->select-task shit. I also stripped the catalog down, so it's sitting at 36mb of real memory right now. Still way faster than Spotlight/Launchbar for starting apps.

stet (stet), Saturday, 20 January 2007 00:00 (nineteen years ago)

YOU PEOPLE WHO OBSESS OVER HAVING THE LID CLOSED ARE CRAZY INSANE! HAVEN'T YOU EVER HEARD OF MONITOR SPANNING?

Keeping the lid closed is a disastrous and utter waste of potential screenspace. This is how I work the majority of the time: use big external monitor for whatever file I'm working on and then put iTunes, system monitor, email windows over on the lid's LCD.

Elvis Telecom (Chris Barrus), Saturday, 20 January 2007 00:36 (nineteen years ago)

Its a little awkward to use spanning sometimes

UART variations (ex machina), Saturday, 20 January 2007 00:49 (nineteen years ago)

dude if you want an app launcher just put yr apps folder in the dock?

oh yeah tabmixplus' session manager for firefix is k-awesome for quitting and restarting to kill memory bloat and keeping yr. ridiculous list of stuff still open -- i have zillions of tabs most of the time as todos or reminders or whatever. probably would be better off stashing the urls with an app or bookmarking or some junk but...

also jon i haven't ever really seen dashboard as a memory hog if yr careful with whats in it?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 20 January 2007 00:55 (nineteen years ago)

Yea, well, what's the point in running Dashboard if it can't do shit?

UART variations (ex machina), Saturday, 20 January 2007 01:05 (nineteen years ago)

pearlyrics and the albumart widget for itunes, the weather widget, shellwatcher for uptime, and one or two worldclocks for difft timezones.

hardly any footprint at all, and rilly useful.

also, yeah, using audioscrobbler with growl = k-essential.

growl is actually way cooler than quicksilver.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Saturday, 20 January 2007 01:16 (nineteen years ago)

I installed quicksilver, thought the idea was cool, then found it to be a huge pain in the ass and uninstalled it promptly.

Then for app launching I invented my own genius thing.

I already had two folders in my dock, Apps and Utilities, filled with aliases to all my most used programs, and usually control/right click on them to bring up a menu and select them. But when I'm in that quicksilver "I don't wanna use a mouse" mood, I came up with my own version. Made a folder who's name is just two spaces. Put it on the desktop. Filled it with aliases to all my major apps and folders. Edited the names of aliases to make sense (so...InDesign instead of Adobe InDesign)

Now when I want to launch something, I just click on the desktop, hit the space bar once, hit control down arrow to open that folder, then type the first letters of the program I want, and control down arrow again.

This is often faster and more comfortable for me then using the trackball. Don't ask me why, but it's not too different from how Quicksilver works as a launger.

(in other news...can anyone help me with a copy of Quark 6.5 or 7?)

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 20 January 2007 08:03 (nineteen years ago)

That's basically how I had things set up in System 7!

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 20 January 2007 08:19 (nineteen years ago)

comparing Growl and Quicksilver is apples and oranges, SC!

UART variations (ex machina), Sunday, 21 January 2007 00:05 (nineteen years ago)

Jon: did you try Launchbar like I suggested in your comments. Keyboard access, lightning fast even on my G3 iBook, and it doesn't overreach in the way QS does.

caek (caek), Sunday, 21 January 2007 14:16 (nineteen years ago)

There was something I hated about it... I forget!


http://www.mikeash.com/software/qtamateur/

^ full screen quicktime player!

UART variations (ex machina), Tuesday, 23 January 2007 05:19 (nineteen years ago)


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