Skyfall: Bond #23

is it a subtle or big distinction in pronunciation between ma'am and mum?

In the US? Huge. First of all, ma'am almost has two syllables? More so in the south and southwest but I think most people from most US places have a slight hesitation that extends the As.

I rewatched Casino Royale after Skyfall though and they definitely say maam the american way a few times. so I think all the moms in Skyfall were probs intentional

i guess they feel like m is part of the fumily

in the UK i think it's a North/South thing too re "ma'am". up North no one says "Ma'am" as "mum" i don't.. think. then of course there's "Mam" which people in Newcastle say which sounds more like "Ma'am" than "Mum" does.

Imagine Bond would say 'mother', but then you are in Avengers territory.

It is definitely 'ma'am'. Longer sound than 'mum'.

christ's sake

did albert finney mishear and call her "Emma" the whole time?

haha, yes

yes i think so. the one good joke of the thing!

christ's sake

― goole, Monday, November 26, 2012 2:15 PM (5 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

according to wiki, the filmmakers chose to cast finney rather than sean connery because they didn't want to resort to 'stunt casting' that would overshadow the enterprise.

gtf over yourselves, you are making a james bond movie

the two vowels in "ma'am" and "mum" (at least for the "palm" pronunciation of "ma'am") are relatively close to one another in vowel terms... one is open mid back unrounded, the other is open back unrounded. an american watching skyfall could be forgiven for conflating "ma'am" with "mum." some dialects of british english pronounce "ma'am" the same way most americans do, rhyming with "ham." as in orbit notes, some american dialects diphthongize it into something that sounds like "my-um."

lol the aston martin was basically stunt casting

people who think they were saying "mum" dont watch enough british spy/police movies/tv imo

they call helen mirren "ma'am" prounounced, sort of, "mahm" in prime suspect all the time

how is prime suspect? I watched the americanized version and it was ok

literally the best television show of all time, probably.

they call her "guv", n00b

thanks for the recommendation!

what is james bond's philosophy of tipping

just the tipping?

bond thinks tipping is just some city in china you fly to in order to assassinate people.

they call her "guv", n00b

― goole, Monday, November 26, 2012 2:28 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

they call her a LOT of things,

don't they ever!

between takes, they call her dame!

da'am

they weren't saying "mum"

max ... what would you have had on the soundtrack for the shanghai scene

http://thumbs.anyclip.com/tX6oFxr4U/tmb_4380_480.jpg

i mean i was thinking why have any music cues at all, just the sounds of the fight and glass breaking and the wind whipping in the tower

im not really arguing for vangelis but the way they used the music in that scene was so annoying -- you had this great evocative photography & staging that was already communicating a vibe and the score just ends up pushing it over the top and ruining it

i didn't really notice the music in that scene. i did notice that they forgot to put spots on Q when they called to attention how spotty he was.

yeah i didn't really thought it stuck out as being bad but then the incidental music in Bonds DID used to be the most amazing incidental music ever.

it's been a mixed bag, really

ma'ambling

Connery would've turned them down

Bond #24 and #25 to be uh.. a *two-parter* say rumours. not sure how i feel about that tbh.

so long as Gollum isn't in it

I'm cool with it as it acts like the previous three movies never happened, and it doesn't suck

Strictly speaking Casino and Quantum made for a two-parter.

FSVO strict

sick dn sic

jesus christ mum

I'm English and I have no idea how to pronounce ma'am, because it's a word actual people never use. I suppose I would say it 'marm'.

What would be the female gendered equivalent of "excuse me, sir?"

but how do you pronounce "marm"? because for me (AmE) that scans as rhyming with "harm", as in "schoolmarm"

hang on have i imagined "just the facts, ma'am" as being some mad exoticism that no American has ever heard?

hardly. It's a catchphrase from Dragnet.

Just watched. As a pun lovin' guy I was disappointed by the mediocre wordplay in this.

"you've just been james boned" didn't do it for you?

Re pronunciation of maam: You know how they pronounce it in the film 'skyfall'? That's how we pronounce it.