354 is the old stuff...i believe the new stuff will be d.s.p. 1
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 November 2012 13:48 (thirteen years ago)
I will never drink from this bottle again
― 乒乓, Monday, 26 November 2012 13:56 (thirteen years ago)
to be clear i don't know if there are d.s.p. 1 bottle out there *or* if they taste different, but it would be mighty interesting if they did.
― call all destroyer, Monday, 26 November 2012 14:19 (thirteen years ago)
Q: If Dickel 12 is called a sipping bourbon how come I want to gulp it?
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Tuesday, 27 November 2012 03:17 (thirteen years ago)
I've never had Dickel before, so I bought a bottle of 12 today. Not bad at all! Not a huge fan of Tennessee whiskey, and I do taste a hint of the charcoal, but for the price this might be one of the better bargains short of Wild Turkey 101.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 01:18 (thirteen years ago)
I need a good bourbon or rye in the UK to make WHISKY SOURS. Any suggestions that aren't (a) majorly expensive or (b) Jack Daniels?
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:12 (thirteen years ago)
Dickel Sour Mash makes a tasty Whiskey Sour, not as deep as the 12 and it sits nicely with all the other elements.
― Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:24 (thirteen years ago)
Its $20 a bottle round here, don't know how much of a mark up you'd be paying in the UK.
― Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:25 (thirteen years ago)
it's hard to say w/out knowing much about what you can get in the uk. buffalo trace is available just about everywhere and is good. or pretty much any rye you can get your hands on since rye would be my preference for whiskey sours.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:36 (thirteen years ago)
You'll be very lucky to get a bottle of Dickle for under £30 in the UK. Yes, that's $45, chums! This may give you a clue why I think the Van Winkle starting at £60ish over here is interesting. And why I nearly fall over when I go and look at liquor when I'm in the USA.
Difford's Guide uses Maker's Mark in its whiskey sours. I take no position on this (I don't drink sours much) aside from saying he's usually pretty reliable.
― Tim, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:46 (thirteen years ago)
knappogue otm
― bill paxman (darraghmac), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)
woodford reserve? can you get that?
― dylannn, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:05 (thirteen years ago)
but i googled and found people talking about wild turkey 101 for £19.99 at waitrose, whatever that means
― dylannn, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:09 (thirteen years ago)
it's a bottle of 354, c.a.d. sorry that took so long to get back to you. i just fished it outta the recycling.it did not taste bad just diff to what i wld characterize as the usual rittenhoues taste. a definite musty basement vibe which i don't recall being present in previous bottles.
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:05 (thirteen years ago)
Ooh, Wild Turkey for £20 should do the trick. Woodford is nice but a bit too smooth -- I prefer 'em a bit more trashy and semi-poisonous.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:16 (thirteen years ago)
I find the concept of paying roughly $30 for a bottle of Wild Turkey slightly incomprehensible, that's the whiskey my friends drank when they were 17-19. That and rotgut vodka and gin.
Its the Fleischmanns of whiskey, (please don't tell me they make whiskey).
― Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:00 (thirteen years ago)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_gLJopL2jr3A/TJRRb0AdO6I/AAAAAAAAAMA/7uifTrIVyqI/s1600/Fleischmann's+Rye.jpg
Just looking at that makes my head ache.
― Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:02 (thirteen years ago)
I think you're thinking of Old Crow or Black Velvet or some other bottom-shelf whiskey
― mh, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:09 (thirteen years ago)
WT 101 is pretty good.
Tangentially related, I went to my local uber-whiskey (and food) joint, Longman & Eagle last weekend, and they did have Ancient Age, but not Ancient x2 Age. I got hopeful at first but was slightly dismayed when I realized it was just the standard stuff. I had a killer Old Fashioned instead.
― dansplaining (dan m), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)
X-post Nah it was Wild Turkey, drank in great quantities, often mixed with Faygo. And it was much cheaper then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Turkey_(bourbon)
See the section under "In Popular Culture", maybe it was just the reputation it had in my neck of the Midwest.
― Josiah Alan, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:30 (thirteen years ago)
it has that baggage here, too! it's actually a good product, people are just dumb and didn't know shit about whiskey. maybe it's changed a lot, but I don't think it has.
seriously though, based on marketing, black velvet at like $10/750ml sells like crazy
― mh, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:47 (thirteen years ago)
Wild Turkey 101 is the real deal, though.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:51 (thirteen years ago)
― i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:05 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
thanks for checking! no obvious explanation then, but trust your taste imo.
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:01 (thirteen years ago)
sorry man, I drank your whiskey and replaced it with basement water :(
― mh, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 19:03 (thirteen years ago)
Oh I really hope I get to Longman and Eagle when I'm in Chicago next month, I love it there and I've never had the opportunity to have a go at their whiskey selection.
― Tim, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:15 (thirteen years ago)
wow, there is some stuff there i would love to try
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:29 (thirteen years ago)
I like the place, been to eat there a few times. Glad I don't live on that block any more though, the parking/tourist/yuppie situation would drive me insane. Their sidewalk seating is bad enough...
― dansplaining (dan m), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:46 (thirteen years ago)
Has anyone ever had this?
http://www.whisky-drinker.com/pages/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Tamdhu-no-agesm.jpg
― calstars, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 22:52 (thirteen years ago)
Top secret L&E tip, go there for lunch, when the lines are not mad and the bartenders can be talked into giving tastes. Granted, not the best time to start on whiskey, but you take the good with the bad.
Big Star in Chicago is another fun whiskey stop.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:03 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah the gf and I went with my parents like half an hour before dinner service started to get a little drink on ahead of time and ensure we got a decent table. It worked out well.
― dansplaining (dan m), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:08 (thirteen years ago)
(that's pretty much the only way I can envision getting in there w/o hassle on a saturday)
Yeah Big Star is awesome also, though I often find myself looking longingly across the road to the Violet Hour. I understand that marks me out as a ponce, but whatevs, I'm English so everyone thinks that about me anyway.
The joy of being on vacation when we're in Chicago is we can plan our day to get to L&E before the madness kicks in too severely. Or just go eat at Lula over the road which is one of my lovely wife's favourite restaurants in the world.
― Tim, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:16 (thirteen years ago)
Violet Hour is great, but not the casual commitment Big Star or L&E are.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:20 (thirteen years ago)
just bought some sazerac, stoked
― 乒乓, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 23:34 (thirteen years ago)
Anyone know an online whiskey store in the US with reasonable prices on single malts?
― ljubljana, Thursday, 29 November 2012 04:26 (thirteen years ago)
Not sure how reasonable they are but there's always http://www.binnys.com/
― dansplaining (dan m), Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:01 (thirteen years ago)
Thanks - they look ok so going with them (still got gaps in my US online retail knowledge)
― ljubljana, Thursday, 29 November 2012 13:29 (thirteen years ago)
Today's payday and I'm fresh out of "nice-ish sippin' whiskey that I keep around to drink occasionally & expand my palate" so I went and bought a bottle of Jefferson's standard offering on my lunch break. Now it's just sitting on my desk, staring back at me. Teasing me, almost. Only 4 more hours...
― dansplaining (dan m), Friday, 30 November 2012 19:04 (thirteen years ago)
https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/c0.0.403.403/p403x403/533943_10101194472688960_1835927744_n.jpg
braggin
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 December 2012 02:00 (thirteen years ago)
this is the amount i have now. it's enough for me but i am thinking maybe i should get some more for friends and stuff. cost is holding me back too.
Ha, you could have sold that PVW rye for enough to buy probably 10 4-packs of BCS.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 December 2012 02:41 (thirteen years ago)
but then i wouldn't have it!
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 December 2012 02:43 (thirteen years ago)
I'm fully aware of my own circular logic behind buying bottles of stuff due to their massively inflated price on the secondary market, knowing full well I would never sell on the secondary market.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 2 December 2012 02:55 (thirteen years ago)
if it was stuff i didn't like that would be one thing
― call all destroyer, Sunday, 2 December 2012 02:58 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, CAD, I used to have the whole whiskey world at my fingertips, but now I live back in Idaho, where liquor is controlled by the state and they only sell the most popular brands -- "popular" in Idaho of course no where near equaling "best"...
Oh well. I've gone through nearly a 5th of Dickel 12. I swear every drop of it was sipped, no gulping!
Drunk. Next time I'm gonna order fancy stuff online, but the boys down in Tennessee haven't let me down yet. They can go ahead and let their whiskey sleep for 20 years down in Kentucky, doesn't mean its better!
― Frobisher the (Viceroy), Monday, 3 December 2012 05:25 (thirteen years ago)
This Jefferson's is too... thin and sweet for my tastes.
― dansplaining (dan m), Friday, 7 December 2012 01:37 (thirteen years ago)
http://sourmashmanifesto.com/
good blog I came across while researching different whiskies
― dansplaining (dan m), Friday, 7 December 2012 18:31 (thirteen years ago)
chuck cowdery's blog is still awesome
― mh, Friday, 7 December 2012 18:56 (thirteen years ago)
xp yeah that guy is good, cowdery is obv amazing.
― call all destroyer, Friday, 7 December 2012 18:57 (thirteen years ago)
it's not whisky, but tonight i got to enjoy some 36 year old rum from francis ford coppola's private reserve. he bought two barrels when it was 24 years old and transferred it to white wine barrels from his vineyard for 12 more years, bottled it, and kept the bottles for himself to give as gifts. i had never had rum outside of mixed drinks or awful shots, so this was quite a treat.
― eh mec, elle est ou ma caisse? (ytth), Saturday, 8 December 2012 10:38 (thirteen years ago)
wow, that sounds kinda incredible. how was it?
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 8 December 2012 14:03 (thirteen years ago)