so so i just started doing this paleo diet thing - feels like it should be bullshit. is it?

go on this butter coffee diet if you want boners

let them eat butter coffee

@ La Lechera, it's broken down exhaustively right here http://www.bulletproofexec.com/how-to-make-your-coffee-bulletproof-and-your-morning-too/

I love fruits and veg and wouldn't recommend this diet to anybody just yet. But it's exciting, big dietary changes are fun. I'd never eaten ghee!

I'm not a big meat-eater either, like at all, so I'm learning a lot

(semi) NSFW http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1jylkgJrh1qa2j1uo1_400.jpg

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"semi"

well, i read it. i'm not going to try it because i need something more substantial in my stomach b/c my work is fairly high energy, but generally my breakfasts are fruit and coffee and that is working out just fine for me in general. i am not concerned with losing weight as much as maintaining even levels of energy throughout the day. i'm just always curious what a particular diet offers that i am not already doing/getting from current food intake. i guess the answer is boners.

"go on this butter coffee diet if you want boners"

without being too graphic, ever since i got my cpap machine to correct my sleep apnea i have had uhhhh increased blood flow...

@ La Lechera, aside from the first-time boner I'm not sold on it yet, I'm still dealing with "50% of your calories will come from butter, ghee and coconut oil". I have noticed weird things like a) my skin feels better, esp. around my ankles and wrists, b) my scalp and hair are very different, healthier, c) I feel more focused but I have no way of definitively measuring what "focus" is, except that all tempos feel slow, which is the really weird one.

There haven't been any negative side effects but just you wait, I'm sure my gall bladder will explode sometime soon

I use coconut oil to moisturize from the outside; you're telling me it works from the inside too. That's interesting. Will count that as something worth considering.

I've been using coconut oil for cooking for awhile now, and recently tried it instead of butter on roasted yam - so good. Mr Jaq and I are starting the Whole30 tomorrow, which is pretty much paleo. After 3 solid years of low carb everything, and 8 months of ketogenic (90% of calories from fat), I am so looking forward to some root vegetables and fruit.

paleo diet == my cat would eat these things

wait, can i eat all natural potato chips? seasoned with sea salt?

No white potatoes on the one we're doing, but we can have other veggie chips done with olive oil. Not a lot though.

ooh right veggie chips and olive oil. maybe i'll just make my own. thinking of snacky things i can eat if i go full caveman.

think i might buy some of those snacky dehydrated blueberries and stuff like that to have at the store. to curb my desire for candy. i love candy and cakes and stuff. i have no doubt that i will feel better without flour and wheat and all that. don't know if rice ever made me feel heavy or bad.

Huh, Whole30 looks very similar to bulletproof minus the phobia of mycotoxins. I'm glad to read there are other "ghee is a superfood" diets in the world

Amanda the idea is to get energy (fuel) from fat, not carbs. The fruit is good for you, but the carbs/sugar in fruit can raise some people's insulin too high to actually give them energy (insulin will store the energy in fat cells instead of burning it).

just had more thai seafood and veggies. you know what i'm not really gonna worry about though? sauces and stuff. if i eat elsewhere. i can make up my own thing/diet. i mean my thai food came with a creamy curry kinda sauce and i'm not gonna worry about what was in it. you only live once. that way i don't go crazy. this is all just an elaborate way for me to stop eating ice cream anyway. got a serious habit. since i stopped the booze i went straight down that rocky road to the hard stuff every night.

^yeah. really for me this diet is about giving me something to focus on, just to manufacture some kind of discipline so i can keep from eating so much cafeteria food and mcdonalds and mountain dew and hot cheetos every day. to still be easting really tasty satisfying food and thereby minimizing urges to binge on pizza flavored doritos. pt. 2 of strategy is gf leveraging the guilt to keep me in line.

I am doing a pretty serious elimination LCHF induction on this diet before adding in anything starchy... first few days I felt pretty crappy. Low energy, headachey. Today I feel much better.

i had red grapes and some au natural potato chips and slices of turkey today so far. i'll eat lots of veggies tonight at dinner.

i'm taking tons of supplements these days herbal and otherwise and i don't care if that's anti-caveman either. astragallus, grape seed, rhodiola, st. john's wort, lecithin, vitamin b. since i haven't been drinking i've decided that i want to be REALLY sober and awake. still trying to find an herbal speed pill that is healthy. though i think the rhodiola puts some pep in my step.

are potato chips paleo?
i had no idea...

Peruvian paleo

peruvian neolithic, tbf

paleovian

have no idea. but i saw online that some cavemen say potatoes are okay and some say they aren't okay. i'm with the pro-potato cavemen. but in moderation. cheating with chips but they were all natural and no additives or anything. a little sea salt. like i said i'm making up my own rules but being definite about no sugar/wheat/rice/beans/alcohol.

anti-potato paleos have a problem with spikes in insulin and glycoalkaloids or something and i don't think i have these concerns. if all you ate were potatoes 3 meals a day then yeah that would kinda not be in the spirit. i mean if you are gonna be a pro-sweet potato caveman but not allow regular potatoes that just seems mean to me.

if i were trying to lose a hundred pounds i would lose the potatoes. i'd be happy if i lost 20 pounds and were just generally healthy and felt good. and potatoes always make me feel good...(i mean i had a grapefruit for dessert last night after dinner so i need a little fun.)

i think if you ate nothing but potatoes you might lose 100 lbs.

not the way i can eat potatoes. i think i'm half potato actually.

how many large-ish baked potatoes can you eat in a sitting? my record is about three before i realized this was bad buffet strategy.

i am all-time champion mashed potato eater. and french fry eater. i could definitely polish off 3 baked potatoes. potatoes speak to me. i didn't eat too many last night. i made chicken & veggie stir fry and cut up some potatoes with some olive oil and a little sea salt and threw them in the oven.

I have no idea if I can tolerate potatoes yet. Like I said, in the elimination stage right now where I am eating a very limited selection of foods. Going to add back in starchier veg in a few weeks to see how I react. Based on the fact that I am pretty overweight I am guessing I probably can't tolerate them, though :(

So I thought sweet potatoes had a higher glycemic load than white, but I just checked and they are pretty much equal... !

Reading Anna Karenina and lol'd when its said "Vronsky was trying to keep his weight down, so he was cutting down on sugars and starches."

brillat-savarin's physiology of taste is pretty clear that carbs are the problem too:

"The second of the causes of obesity [after genetic predisposition], is the fact that farinacious and feculaferous matter is the basis of our daily food. We have already said that all animals that live on farinaceous substances become fat; man obeys the common law.

The fecula is more prompt in its action when it is mingled with sugar. Sugar and grease are alike in containing large quantities of hydrogen, and are both inflammable. This combination is the more powerful, from the fact that it flatters the taste, and that we never eat sweet things until the appetite is already satisfied, so that we are forced to court the luxury of eating by every refinement of temptation.

The fecula is not less fattening when in solution, as in beer, and other drinks of the same kind. The nations who indulge the most in them, are those who have the most huge stomachs. Some Parisian families who in 1817 drank beer habitually, because of the dearness of wine, were rewarded by a degree of embonpoint, they would be glad to get rid of."

embonpoint!

you learn a new word everyday.

"feculaferous matter" - Some you don't want to learn!

fecula
feculum
fecula
feculum

chanting in my head like a latin class now thanks a lot ilx

i started doing low-carb, which for me just means cutting out bread, rice, potatoes, pasta. i'm not gonna get too crazy with it, i just want to feel better and give my stomach a rest from some of the irritating things i've been putting into it.

see now if you cut out beans and sugar you would be a total caveman, jbr.

*beats chest*

i feel like beans are kinda the easiest thing in the world for me to live without. i like them and all, but really not much of a burden on me. rice isn't hard either. pasta and bread are obviously the tough ones. and sugary stuff.

I could ditch pasta and bread but need my beans/rice :(

i love beans. i haven't decided about them yet. i bought some hummus today, which is garbanzo beans -- i think i'll allow myself that.

why are beans verboten?

they make you too boisterous

paleos are anti-beans/rice/grains/sugar. maybe cavemen were scared of beans.

They can have a gluten-esque effect on some people similar to grains. They are difficult to digest.