"Hipster" as pejorative.

alright, maybe not covered, but it's relevant, and i remember thinking it was funny. something something gen xers and irony.

you mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpSo-VJTeE8

let's be ironic like the 90s only we'll do it "ironically"

― paula boradwell (crüt), Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^ pretty much what I wanted to post. 90s was way, way more interested in looking disinterested and ironic. 2000s are way post-ironic in that people celebrate the inherent irony by scoffing at it

she also really misconstrues the difference between noticing irony and not being ironic. there are many, many ironies in the life of the elderly and disabled, and insinuating that these people never notice these ironies or celebrate them is pretty wrongheaded

2012 supposed hipsterism is pretty interested in the genuine. for every dopey fake mustache thingy I've seen, I've been places with people who are really fastidious about mustaches/beards. the people making artisan goods, while polluted by the spoon-makers and really overwrought companies, often really do make good small-batch products and are not at all ironic about it

If you're committed to something, that kind of disqualifies you as a hipster.

does it? maybe only if it's strictly pejorative

I think you're thinking of the 90s and "slackers"

Hell is Other Hipsters

there's a great but depressing John Cleese line that doesn't actually use the word "irony" iirc but basically says that when you're young you notice all these inconsistencies and incompetencies in the world, and you derive humor from it, but as you get older you start to realize that it's all inconsistent and no one has any idea what the fuck they're even doing, and then things stop being funny.

that just sounds like getting jaded to me

a slacker doesn't necessarily trade in the cultural tourism that a hipster does.
e.g. beavis & butthead are slackers, but not hipsters, because they are metal 4 life.

b&b were both very earnest, too

it is true that no one has any idea what the fuck they're even doing

why are educated people with access to a wide mainstream media audience even talking about hipsters like this still?? get fucking over it (editors should too) unless you're actually going to talk about something important too, like capitalism (its ubiquity, rebellion against, history, identity politics, whatever), as max said, or political/social engagement with community or something insightful or at least emotionally engaging, just anything that uses more than one thought, which i'd like to think this writer has but just didn't use for this.
xpost with irrationally angry thread, srsly wtf

"There's nothing worse than an aging hipster."

Christy Wampole is an assistant professor of French at Princeton University. Her research focuses primarily on 20th- and 21st-century French and Italian literature and thought.

I would like to know more about how modern French and Italian literature and thought would address this. Actually I'd pay cash money for Umberto Eco to write this article instead.

something so gross about musicians putting their PhD research topics in their bios -- it's like they're still in the mindset of applying to ivy league colleges and want to show how "well-rounded" and "accomplished in multiple fields" they are.

or they just have nothing else to say about themselves because they spend 15 hours a day on french essayistic fiction or w/e

uh i think it's just that she's an academic, not a musician (not rly)

oh shit, completely missed she is a musician!

oh good god the band's wiki page is formatted to showcase all of their academic credentials

Christy Wampole is lead vocalist for Glass Wave, a Bay Area cerebral rock band formed in 2008 by Robert Pogue Harrison and Dan Edelstein, both professors of literature at Stanford University. Glass Wave is categorized as "cerebral rock."

i dunno, this whole thing is ridiculous.
she must feel kinda guilty for being a self-important academic musician/professor/literature specialiste and so (logically therefore) she gives absurd gifts to her friends and now she is paying the piper publicly in this opiñicle post about hipsterism!?

can i forget that i read this?

Christy Wampole is lead vocalist for Glass Wave, a Bay Area cerebral rock band formed in 2008 by Robert Pogue Harrison and Dan Edelstein, both professors of literature at Stanford University. Glass Wave is categorized as "cerebral rock."

― mh, Monday, November 19, 2012 5:35 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

actually fell asleep reading this

how has no one mentioned what a bad singer she is, she is a really bad singer

I wonder how many gigs they played outside of Palo Alto.

maybe her way of singing is just too cerebral for you

i didnt THINK of that haw haw

that somebody not only had these thoughts but also decided to write then down and then publish them is just... it hurts my heart

why are educated people with access to a wide mainstream media audience even talking about hipsters like this still??

seriously i mean why wont someone pay me to write about how hipsters dont even exist anymore because they dont, so stop complaining about them

that somebody not only had these thoughts but also decided to write then down and then publish them is just... it hurts my heart
this a billion times
every single thought does not need to see the light of day.

'glass wave' she said 'my ceberal rock band, is playing a show. would you like to come'. 'no' i said.

She might be teaching college so she's seeing millenials, maybe going to stores/social places where there are hipsters, and remembering the 90s, when she had her finger on the pulse of society before grad school.

And then conflating all three because all she lives now is cerebral rock and French/Italian lit

Genre: Cerebral rock

christy wampol = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saPhxZZQCWk

on top of being embarrassing, she's pretty judgmental to boot
what if people enjoy wearing costumes? f u lady.

'i sometimes wonder what cerberal rock is' she said.

'yes, of course, exactly. that is the question. that you should have asked yourself as you were adding it to your wikipedia page instead of paraphrasing short sentences from a don delillo novel. in fits and starts. a better kind of irony. distance that never beggars time.'

I just did some math looking at her graduation dates and I think she's only 34ish?

She might be teaching college so she's seeing millenials, maybe going to stores/social places where there are hipsters, and remembering the 90s, when she had her finger on the pulse of society before grad school.

there are not a lot of hipsters in palo alto or princeton

like even if you start out w/ hipster characteristics if you arrive in one of those places it is drained from you as long as you are there, this includes max visiting his parents

really? I figured at least some of the smart kid nerdos were into hipsterish stuff

glad I don't work for google, then

I know the rim of a semi-full stemmed wine glass is an outmoded musical mechanism that only a hipster would use, but a band named glass wave should deliver

on top of being embarrassing, she's pretty judgmental to boot
what if people enjoy wearing costumes? f u lady.

yeah how did her editor not talk to her about how, like ~fashion is a thing~

her editor was probably encouraged to keep her hands off this piece as much as possible, to attract hits u know

'last week i made myself of list of hipster heuristics in bullet point form. i typed them into my macbook air one evening when i was tired. the flowers on my desk dropped and wilted. later that evening i watched an abc sitcom about lonely young people who wore sweaters and dreamed of nothing.'

as she related this story to me cerebral rock softly played on the hi-fi in the corner.

I'd gossip about her band's "look" but their use of artistic lighting in photography makes it a little hard to tell

These song lyrics are really something.