"Hipster" as pejorative.

being a literature college professor

dictators are never ironists; people who move things in the political landscape, regardless of the sides they choose, are never ironists.

russian politics are pretty ironic/cynical

this all reads 2 me like someone trying to articulate a complaint about something they actually don't give a shit about

no way, it's much simpler than that, it's a complaint about people making fun of their band on the internet

Where can we find other examples of nonironic living?

(looks around, shrinks as best he can, timidly raises hand)

people in wheelchairs don't express irony

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDTlP3OZFmg

ironically the person that wrote that will wake up tomorrow and decide not to kill themselves

well, it is. but i know people like this! and they're basically okay people! they own dogs and are mostly kind to their friends.

― Yorkshire lass born and bred, that's me, said Katriona's hologram. (thomp), Sunday, 18 November 2012 20:15 (2 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

and one of them just forwarded me this article

hows she going to talk about irony and marketing and advertising and the berlin wall and never once confront CAPITALISM

Where can we find other examples of nonironic living?

Prison

"well at least there's no irony in here"

i dunno, tell that to the corrections corp of america -- their profits are laced with irony

lol Lamp

those might be the ugliest illustrations i have ever seen in a major publication.

that's about all i can work up opinionwise on this.

idg why for the last 20 years when people want to talk abt frivolity and nihilism they call it irony which is just a super common mode of human expression that everyone does a lot, this is a v earnest response to this article - also i dont think anyones out there wearing bieber gear ironically, thats a total 1990s approach

"Cerebral wave" as pejorative.

also i dont think anyones out there wearing bieber gear ironically

these people do exist actually

"actually"

man do even know how un cutting edge theyre being

they're being un cutting edge ironically

let's be ironic like the 90s only we'll do it "ironically"

well if thats how they look at it i cant really fault them i guess

always reasonable

Tom Scocca ‏@tomscocca
Also if you are a Princeton professor, b. 1977, maybe the modes of the cool kids bug you BECAUSE THEY AIM TO BUG YOU, BECAUSE YOU ARE OLD.

but i must add that these modes she describes are no different than what was happening when she was a teen

o no '77 is old? : /

thank god i've got another six weeks before i'm old.

enjoy it while you can man, this is a unending hell of not understanding wtf is up w/teens

things to do in the next six weeks: buy bieber merch, sport it ironically in a public place, kill myself so i can stay young in people's minds forever

one of the iconic moments of my Gen-X young adulthood was going to see "Reality Bites" in the theater, and I didn't laugh at the part where the editor asks poor Winona Ryder to "define irony," but I heartily guffawed at the "golden lit sex scene," and then half the rest of the people in the theater cracked up too.

also i dont think anyones out there wearing bieber gear ironically, thats a total 1990s approach

― lag∞n, Sunday, November 18, 2012 8:01 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heh the only person I know irl who buys bieber stuff is a super straight laced midwestern girl who only wears crew sweaters and hoodies

Do you surround yourself with things you really like or things you like only because they are absurd?

I really wish she'd spent the entire article exploring this issue, rather than writing the millionth iteration of "why hipsters are bad for society"

acousto-optic modulators, which use glass waves, are an outmoded photonic mechanism that only awful hipster physicists use in the lab

i feel like if you take a hipster and remove irony from his appropriations, you get guy fieri.

a world without irony is a world full of donkey sauce.

I like not understanding wtf is up with teens.

That article is beyond belief.

kind of a shame that piece was locked just before ppl decided it would be hilarious to eat at an awful tourist trap in Times Square tho

the onion already covered this issue over a decade ago: http://www.theonion.com/articles/aging-genxer-doesnt-find-bad-movies-funny-anymore,1451/

alright, maybe not covered, but it's relevant, and i remember thinking it was funny. something something gen xers and irony.

you mean this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpSo-VJTeE8

let's be ironic like the 90s only we'll do it "ironically"

― paula boradwell (crüt), Sunday, November 18, 2012 7:07 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

^^ pretty much what I wanted to post. 90s was way, way more interested in looking disinterested and ironic. 2000s are way post-ironic in that people celebrate the inherent irony by scoffing at it

she also really misconstrues the difference between noticing irony and not being ironic. there are many, many ironies in the life of the elderly and disabled, and insinuating that these people never notice these ironies or celebrate them is pretty wrongheaded

2012 supposed hipsterism is pretty interested in the genuine. for every dopey fake mustache thingy I've seen, I've been places with people who are really fastidious about mustaches/beards. the people making artisan goods, while polluted by the spoon-makers and really overwrought companies, often really do make good small-batch products and are not at all ironic about it

If you're committed to something, that kind of disqualifies you as a hipster.

does it? maybe only if it's strictly pejorative

I think you're thinking of the 90s and "slackers"

Hell is Other Hipsters

there's a great but depressing John Cleese line that doesn't actually use the word "irony" iirc but basically says that when you're young you notice all these inconsistencies and incompetencies in the world, and you derive humor from it, but as you get older you start to realize that it's all inconsistent and no one has any idea what the fuck they're even doing, and then things stop being funny.