london restaurants

well that's because it's restaurants and streetfood which are the new rock and roll

are you meant to be parodying somebody?

note the second line there...

It has been very dispiriting the last few times I've been through London how much high end american junk food has taken hold in London. If anyone serves me a drink in a fucking mason jar when I'm back at christmas, there will be blood.

sweet potato fries with jalapeno and blue cheese slathered in a hot sauce

this just sounds vile

shitty american food trend ugh

do we have to do this yet again

Crackle Box, I haven't ever watched football in Brixton, a friend of mine used to go watch it in the Canterbury Arms regularly... not sure I'd call it nice, though I haven't been there for a few years.

The Duke of Edinburgh is alright and shows the football I think?

Yeah don't worry Ed, there's still plenty of other stuff.

I know I know,

Ate at the bar at Dabbous last time I flitted through and that was pretty good.

What is good in high end Pub british comfort food right now?

The Gilbert Scott?

but I suppose that (+ Wareing at the Berkely, Dinner by Heston at high-high end) are more modern british than comfort food.

Pub (not high end) I was at last week offered "British Tapas" e.g. small pies (mustn't grumble), black pudding scotch egg (no complaints), "roasties" (fuck off).

oh look: "british tapas" - About 7,470 results (0.30 seconds)

Look Mum No hands has a good black pudding scotch egg

has anyone been to dishoom in shoreditch or i guess the covent garden one may be old news?

went there tonight in the midst of a crisis about where we'd go, i'd read about it and we saw it beaming at us on shoreditch high street of all places. it was one of the best meals i've had in ages, just blew me away. amazing booth almost diner style seats in the window, comfortably fitting four of us with real privacy, good beers and cocktails including their own ipa brewed by beavertown, friendly service and excellent value. we ordered loads and it came to about 36 quid each, including a few drinks and cocktails and desserts.

i can't recommend it highly enough, just a brilliant meal, as impressed as i've been by anywhere in ages.

Lorra money for a curry.

went to the south bank dishoom last year and loved the food, i still daydream about their bhel puri and egg naan roll.

Lorra money for a curry.

what are you talking about? for about 14 dishes none of which were "a curry". good man.

Ed, an answer to your "high end comfort food" question might be the new menu at Quo Vadis, actually.

At risk of further antagonising the fuck-off-with-yer-american-fast-food crowd: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-11-20/shake-shack-to-open-in-london-as-meyer-finds-site.html

Dishoom Covent Garden is terrific for pre-cinema eating. I've had better Indian food in London but the prices, atmosphere and concept are terrific.

Re: high end comfort food, people speak highly of the Delaunay although I haven't been.

Quo Vadis? Really?

I have heard good things about Quo Vadis - including the bit about the v. inexpensive oysters between 5 and 6 pm.

Quo Vadis really! Had a tremendous meal there last month. They're majoring on pies and stout yeoman food.

I've been enjoying Street Feast at Hackney Downs Studios on Friday evenings:
http://www.streetfeastlondon.com

Mostly cos it's 5 minutes from house. It's a nice atmosphere there though. A fun place to start off a night out.

*from my house

i enjoyed the food there but was disappointed by lack of decent beer.

It was BYOB the other week while they were working on improving the bar... So hopefully there's a better selection now.

when i went to the one in dalston they were charging £3 for cans of red stripe

is it the kind of place you can nip into and then take food away? to eg eat at one's own house?

Yeah, you can definitely just pop in and take stuff away.

Finally got myself to Bodega Negra, really wasnt too impressed compared to the quality of my visit to L'Esquinas a few months ago. Saucy spot for boozy romancing though. Also had the pleasure of attending the opening of Barrio East with a writer chum which I would say is london/mexico's shark jumping moment, beyond fun-pub naff (aforementioned mason jar cocktails)but with surprisingly good food

Away from the world of ray banned street grub/upscale mexican I had probably the best turkish ive ever had at the newly refurbished selale (and ive eaten a lot of turkish)up the harsh end of green lanes. Amazingly tender lamb and a mixed kebab + meze was enough to cripple 2 grown men who used to be fat kids. This and a landlord charging 2005 prices will keep my ass rooted in the north london burbs for the forseeable future

Aye, I would find it very hard to starve anywhere on that run from there down to Harringay Green Lanes station.

Five Guys coming to London next year too

what other kind of food would you get excited about?

Was really impressed by the value of Five Guys when I finally had one earlier this year …

if yr near columbia rd on a friday (and maybe other weekdays, am unsure) then i definitely recommend the lunch deal i had last week @ brawn - £10 for really nice bread & butter, a main, a glass of wine, and an espresso at the end.

what other kind of food would you get excited about?

Is that second person singular or plural?

The Cheese & Biscuits food blog reviews Dishoom Shoreditch today: basically a favourable review, but agrees with my succinct 'lorra money for a curry' assessment

Most of the curries on the Dishoom menu are in the £7-£9 range, which doesn't strike me as unreasonably priced, especially given how many terrible places in the area will be charging more or less the same.

would rather knife myself in the face than eat a curry on brick lane, personally

none of the dishes i had in dishoom were curries anyway...

Used to be a second sommelier at Bentley's Oyster Bar near Picadilly. Is it still there?

anywhere good in kentish town? eating with a mate who eats fish but not meat, so abbey tavern or chicken shop are out.

Bull and Last? I'd normally send people to the Southampton Arms but it's too meaty for your friend!

tiny bit of a walk i reckon, gotta be on gaisford street at the other end for about 1930 for a play, though i have heard b&l is really good. may just eat at the pub we're going to, even tho it is average at best.

The Ethiopian place (called, I think, the Queen of Sheba) is a real fave of mine but for your pal to eat vegetarian you'd have to eat vegetarian also. Last time I was in Kentish Town we couldn't get in there because it was full (of Ken Chu) so we went a few doors down to an entirely pleasant, acceptable and unexceptional Japanese restaurant.

I mean it wasn't full of Ken Chu, that might be a bit terrifying, but it was full; Ken and his chums were a constituent part of that fullness.

Kentish Canteen's meant to be pretty decent? And my parents quite like Pane Vino iirc (& they are snobs about the quality of ldn's italian restos).

Kentish Canteen is so overpriced. Bengal Lancer is a decent Indian but beware: music journos.

I did try Dirtyburger on Tuesday, because I was in the area on otherwise fruitless shopping. Cheap, fast and good - if a bit on the small but manageable side. Not as good as my nearest Byron, though, and nowhere near as good as my own burgers. I mix finely chopped white onion into seasoned 20 per cent fat mince to make a very flat, wide burger. The rolls are always the lattice type from Sainsbury's, buttered to toast bread side down on a grill pan (so they don't disintegrate in use). Those rolls are better than they have any right to be. I fry off rounds of red onions - those go on the bottom of the toasted buns with good mustard (or French's if I'm feeling homesick). I also put fried onions *under* the grated cheese (melts faster than a square), then to finish, ketchup on to the melted cheese (to anchor one giant tomato round) and just mayo on the top bun (to anchor the shredded lettuce). If I can find the right pickle, that goes down on the melted cheese before ketchup/tomato.

This construction really limits how much of the burger and condiments wind up spattered on the plate instead of being snarfed up by the diner.

not really a fan of mixing onion into the meat, seems like its just filler? also makes it more meat loaf like