Moneyball won't win the Premiership 2012-13

According to recent reports, Glasgow Celtic were believed to have reached an agreement to sign the talented Baba but, according to Castlebar Celtic’s Noel Coll, no such agreement has been finalised.
“We’re still in talks with Celtic but no deal has been agreed so far,“ Coll told The Mayo News. “Noe is still a Castlebar Celtic player and that’s the way it is for the moment. He was in talks with the likes of Arsenal and Man United, and he is in talks with Celtic. It seems that is where he’ll be going,” he admitted.

lol at 'noel coll' suddenly turning into andrea galliani

adriano galliani eugh it's late

noel won't mind that

has there been a succesful player from mayo before?

or even from like connacht at all, they're all from south dublin, cork or the midlands in my limited knowledge of this stuff

Seamus Coleman is from Sligo

or wait, he's actually from Donegal. We've got loads of them

yeah i remember some bantz here that he was from sligo rovers but he hails from donegal apparently

think coleman's from around killybegs

mayo mayo mayo.... we had a lad captaining birmingham underage teams/ireland u-15 teams a few years back. those that don't turn to pissheads lack the necessary discipline in other ways, or injury takes em i guess? cousin of mine got as far as goalkeeper at kilmarnock reserves back in the day, they paid him enough to get shtuck into a barrel a pints every night, fair fucks to the lad he had a great 1997. digs ditches now.

tough enough to even get noticed this far west, there's no infrastructure for spotting and developing the talent. added to that the fact that we're decent folk that get schooling battered into us so yer dublin jackeens that don't have to do nothing but mule heroin and kick a ball at the luas all day from the age of 5 get an invaluable early advantage (wenger reckons you never get that chance again, y'know, john giles and eamon agree).

the GAA takes a lot of the talent too, i suppose. if you're good enough athletically, it's easier to get your picture in the paper on the county team than it is playing for ballyvary bluebombers

Yah, unless he, I dunno, went on strike to demand to leave it's p much impossible for LFC to justify selling the best player they have by an incredible margin.

― pandemic, Thursday, 15 November 2012 00:40 (49 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

for 40m? knowing carra and gerrard have to be replaced soon too without any money to do so? suarez isn't worth holding on to when you could get three good 13m players for him.

― "It's like death metal lyrics, but about a vagina." (a hoy hoy), Thursday, November 15, 2012 1:32 AM (5 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

3 good £13m players?? I think that's way easy said than done. Are Arsenal better for having Cazorla, Giroud, Podolski rather than RVP?? Would Arsenal have sold him to City if he had 5 years left on his contract and would you have been chill with them doing so? Maybe you would, I dunno.

Most transfers aren't sure things so when your club buys someone who turns out to be excellent, so much so that the fee bandied about for his sale is almost twice what you paid for him in the first place then it's maybe an idea to hold onto him.

yeah but suarez != rvp. (and yes, i think i still would.) suarez has bought the club its biggest scandal in the past 20 years maybe and hell, he's doing fine now but looked... not that great up until a month or two ago. 40m for a *good* player is beyond absurd at this point and will at least get you two marcus reus's or some of those fancy shakthar players or whatever abroad, where prices are becoming a bit more sensible when you aren't dealing with city/psg/gazprom.

LFC spent £35m on Andy Carroll, £20m on Stewart Downing, £16m on Jordan Henderson in the past 2 years alone. Having faith that the £40m they spend next will be turn out to be the equivalent of 2 Marco Reus's or Willian's etc seems highly optimistic.

You don't sell Suarez, no matter the price. Keep your great players, leave value for everybody else. I did think £30m for Xabi Alonso was a price worth taking, but that was an utterly disastrous course to go down.

Anyway we're talking like it's Liverpool's choice. If/when Suarez wants to go, he will find a way. I like to think his Liverpool career is more interesting than joining a purring machine, but who am I kidding? I just hope it'll be to one of the really big guns, and not in England.

Darragh I can't believe you've been sitting on this Noe Baba gold, and only now do we get to hear about it now that the actual press is feteing the lad.

PS I just found out that my secretary comes from Achill. I tried not to ask her if she knew the McH*ghs, I swear I did.

ooooh gwan?

yeah but suarez != rvp. (and yes, i think i still would.) suarez has bought the club its biggest scandal in the past 20 years maybe and hell, he's doing fine now but looked... not that great up until a month or two ago. 40m for a *good* player is beyond absurd at this point and will at least get you two marcus reus's or some of those fancy shakthar players or whatever abroad, where prices are becoming a bit more sensible when you aren't dealing with city/psg/gazprom.

ah stop this rubbish would you. you just hope another club flogs a player for three shitty replacements and so you're arguing like it's what definitely will happen. seen it all before.

unfair, Arsenal this season are a fine example of what wise reinvestment of money from selling yr best player can achieve

i kinda think they might be, once they settle...? Relying on rvp wasn't sustainable anyway, given his medical history- contract running down made it a no-brainer and imo they bought well. Attack's not their problem.

Wouldn't sell suarez tho. Too many 'ifs' re: replacements working out for 40m to make sense. Just wish we'd gotten to see him play more with carroll ;_;

it's almost never worth selling your biggest players unless they absolutely have to go, or just aren't as good or whatever. trading down doesn't work.

do bigger transfers work out more successful than mid-range or smaller transfers? I've a feeling that fuck all of the larger transfer fees in history turned out worth it.

he just isnt worth it? there are a few strikers out there you could talk about as 40m strikers and... he's not falcao, cavani, rvp, villa, aguero or benz/hig. being paid 20m more than a players asking price is not something that will carry on indefinitely, less clubs are doing it each season.

he's no Torres either

anyway, he cost Liverpool 23m so you figure they'd be asking for at least 30m. Add a premium cos it's City and 40m doesn't seem that ridiculous. Not that I think this will happen

he just isnt worth it? there are a few strikers out there you could talk about as 40m strikers and... he's not falcao, cavani, rvp, villa, aguero or benz/hig. being paid 20m more than a players asking price is not something that will carry on indefinitely, less clubs are doing it each season.

you forgot darren bent

i'd figured on 40m for modric, ended up selling him and vdv for less than that. Tho tbf porto seem to be able to name their price, idk how that works.

d bent was what at his peak, 20m? Tho tbf he went for that or thereabouts three times.

http://www.betvictor.com/sports/en/football-specials/qpr-specials/next-permanent-manager/123380198/346032300

whuh?

Svennis!!

http://www.fulhamchronicle.co.uk/london-qpr/2012/11/15/hughes-i-can-t-do-any-more-for-qpr-82029-32238899

fuck it, i'll take anyone over this deluded cunt

is that the same Mark Hughes who was too good to stay at Fulham?

Sparky prides himself on checking the minutest detail before a game, usually starting with a long hard mental plan at 6.30am when he walks the dogs.

Kudos on the advert for mature jobseekers on the same page as the Hughes story there.

city & suarez makes no sense, even if they did decide to change tack and do some creative ffp accounting would they really let a dead man walking spend it

either that or txitki wotsit is planning a huge squad overhaul this summer

So nothing he does has any relation to the team performing badly on the pitch? That's quite a statement.

xxp

credit all his, blame all someone else's, wonderful world of the workplace iirc

you guys looked at suarez's goalscoring record? he's phenomenal, world class. he creates a hell of a lot of chances by himself, think he's on 53 attempts at goal this season, around 20 more than defoe who's second. £40 not enough imo.

£40 not enough imo.

not to worry, it's only liverpool who make bids of £40.

three bags of crisps and an apple couldn't persuade fulham to part with clint dempsey

should be transfer listed for a typo like that

i've come around to suarez being in the top bracket of players, but at the same time he's not been there very long either imo. The iron is very hot right now, like.

stoke in shock swoop for liverpool stalwart chris.

you guys looked at suarez's goalscoring record? he's phenomenal, world class

In the league for Liverpool: 10/11 played 13, goals 4; 11/12 played 31, goals 11; 12/13 played 11, goals 8. I'd call that more 'reasonable' or 'quite good' than 'phenomenal' or 'world class'. It's hardly Ronaldo/Messi-esque. Nor Nistelrooy/Henry-esque for that matter.

he creates a hell of a lot of chances by himself, think he's on 53 attempts at goal this season

He is very creative, but that stat doesn't seem to have translated into anything useful for Liverpool (which isn't necessarily his fault).

gerrard was on 53 attempts on goal just last night

He had maybe 2 shots that I can remember

Simon Mullock ‏@MullockSMirror
Suarez story written by Merseyside-based reporters. Clearly briefed by LFC. What the motive is for misinformation is a matter of conjecture

Simon Mullock ‏@MullockSMirror
Lot of anger at the Etihad about being linked with Suarez. MCFC think LFC are trying to create a market for their most prized asset

Simon Mullock ‏@MullockSMirror
Just had a call from a very senior source at MCFC. Been told there has been no move for Luis Suarez and there are no plans to bid.

Are these reporters Duncan Jenkins?

Don't really get why Man City would be angry?

Maybe every club gets consumed with rage every time they're mentioned in a dubious transfer rumour?