Skyfall: Bond #23

this whole transition was strange, i didn't quite understand her plan or his. in macau he's like "who do you work for" and she's basically like if you can make it out of here alive and get to my boat before i leave i'll show you. so he sneaks aboard, immediately STRIPS and bonks her in the shower, which she loves obviously, then.. they're woken with juice, toast, and a few submachine guns pointed at their noses? bond tries to take out the baddies offscreen but fails? or they just stroll up to the deck and wait to be cuffed? in which case she has basically sacrificed herself?

― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, November 12, 2012 8:38 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes this exactly! i assumed he had taken out her minders... but he didnt? and he just moseyed onto the deck the next morning unaware or not caring that there were guards all around?

also can anybody fill me in on what the assassin was actually doing in shanghai? who did he kill? some kind of art expert? the whole thing was a set-up i guess?

"this is the bond that returns M to the paternal figure with a feminine assistant, and the bad guy was an unstable homosexual who wanted to die with his mother, whom he felt betrayed him"

I liked the movie but this is a good summary of some stuff in it that was icky

also Bond girls are by definition pretty disposable but "that was a waste of good Scotch" after she got shot seemed needlessly cruel

add me to the list of people who didn't understand what the heck happened on the boat

well replacing M wasn't really icky in itself but the whole "women aren't cut out for field work" thing with Moneypenny, and Bardem seeming like a mincing gay stereotype at first (this kind of got less pronounced as the movie went on)

that scene where he took his teeth out was great

Bond is trying to meet her boss why because radio + gunships -> he convinces her that he can kill her boss -> she tells him about the ship going to meet her boss -> Bond arrives on the ship and basically gives himself up, possibly because fuck finding Silva in a place that size when he can be just taken to him, possibly because he is sure that he can escape why because Bond -> she has judged poorly.

Or she figures that she doesn't mind dying if there's a chance Silva will be caught.

The assassin was doing a completely different job, Bond as always relying on blind luck.

no right i got that it was a totally difft job, just wondering what the job actually was (and why bond seemingly needed to wait for him to shoot the dude before wreckin shop) - it didn't bother me, actually i liked how it was this window into the routine workaday world of the international assassin, just wondered what was up

if the assassin didn't execute, the employer would have gotten suspicious.

how come bond only had the one bullet wound? shouldn't he have at least another from being pegged by moneypenny? plus years of spying.

He had a couple, the one that was swole was where he still had shrapnel in there

I love how trying to understand stuff that make no sense in this movie make the movie even better !

if the assassin didn't execute, the employer would have gotten suspicious

see i'm starting to realize why mi6 never called me back

haha also i will admit that for a long time i thought the bullet he extracted FROM HIMSELF like a goddan RONIN HARDMAN was the moneypenny bullet and i was like, why are you having this analyzed, just ask moneypenny, wait why is moneypenny using radioactive rounds that makes no sense, wait oh

guess i was the only one...

is bond canonically half-French? it'd be a weird thing to add to the franchise just now unless the next movie they reveal le chifre was his uncle or something.

well it would explain his retrograde attitude towards women and his need for approval from a mother-figure

/yeah that's right

yeah, I was also quite suprised that his mother was french (or canadian ?).
there are many french bond girls, that said !

maybe it's because I come from a backwards country, but kinda surprised "what makes you think it's the first time? (smirk)" hasn't gotten more attention. het sex icon in gay-brag shocker?

The MI in MI6 stands for "Male Intercourse." True story.

the flirty back and forth between bond and bards SCANDALIZED the audience in the theater i was in

haha, really?

A guy in our theater yelled "WHAT?!?!" like he was very taken aback -- it was one of the most emotional responses to a movie I've seen since a guy ran out of Crossroads crying.

lol

haha, really?

― d-_-b (mh), Monday, November 12, 2012 4:38 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah—i don't think they were grossed out, just... scandalized

hope you mean the macchio crossroads

steve vai... oh god *chin trembles* i can't take it

Parental stuff is canon, but she's not quite French:

James Bond was born of a Scottish father, Andrew Bond of Glencoe, and a Swiss mother, Monique Delacroix, from the Canton de Vaud.

Tracer you were NOT the only one about the bullet, I promise, I thought the same thing at first

Of interest:

http://eandt.theiet.org/magazine/2012/10/hashima-island.cfm

cool, I was asking about that upthread

Bullet confused me as well, Tracer. Wasn't helped by having him reflected in a mirror as he dug out the bullet fragments, either.

ugh wtf batcave batmansion batdeadparents fuck off and just make a bond movie ffs

Thought this was an okay way to spend 2:30 but overall pretty leaden and over-plotted, could have been one of the terrible Brosnan Bonds except with better acting/more edge. Pretty annoyed at killing off M and making Naomie Harris Moneypenny.

every half decent 'grown-up' action movie lately was overlong and overplotted, so sick of director's writing chops. Watch some mctiernan, learn something you hacks.

good reference point because the villainy here was some lesser-Die Hard shit, except Timothy Olyphant >>>>> Javier Bardem

jeez guys this was massive dumb fun try watching it when yr not clinically depressed

notm it was massively dumb fun spoiled by bad drama intruding for the last half

man weeping for his bombed out vintage car was excellent drama and also makes u think.

weeping for the cold war instead of this 21st century everyone's-a-spy, you-get-no-toys shit

even when it went all Hogwarts it was great, Albert Finney was fantastic as Albert Finney With A Beard

god the "hacking" in this was friggin' embarrassing.

^^^

actually to be honest I could've accepted all the "hacking!!111" if the film hadn't been premised on the theft of a comprehensive MI6 cover list that was unaccountably on a laptop hard drive that was then transported to another country.

xp heh i'm sure actual brutal murderers nudge each other and say much the same thing during the fight scenes, whaddayagonnado

ps what the hell ever happened the big important fuckin list of names, they kinda dropped that ball huh

M. ejector seat gag was great tho

(wish it had actually been used)

watching dame judy fly above the highlands shrieking wd. have been a crowning achievement of action cinema

doesn't Rafe Fiennes actually say at one point, "why do you have a fucking hard drive full of cover names?" and Judi Dench is all "suck it"

i dunno has it been said but she's been p bad at her job throughout her stint as m