whislaw as Q had me hoping the villain was Nathan Barley.funniest bit is how thoughout the entire movie, the biggest emotional reaction from Bond is when they blow up his car.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 12 November 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
Hahah yes. Down to the musical sting.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 12 November 2012 16:01 (eleven years ago) link
the biggest emotional reaction from Bond is when they blow up his car.
yes ! that was a great moment (with the music blasting at the same time) !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 12 November 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
as well as the old theme playing when he gets the old car out !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 12 November 2012 16:03 (eleven years ago) link
yeah there were quite a few quality lols in the film, i forget mostly.
Bardem does a fabulous "OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE" eyeroll just after the knife hits him in the back and he turns round to face Bond, he's not even angry
― movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link
Haha, yeah, Bardem's annoyed "fer crissakes" take after Bond shoots the ice around him and the henchman is absolute gold.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, it is really fun, for various reasons and in various ways.the "how do you know it would be the first time?" moment was another good lol.
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 12 November 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
Thought large amounts of the intro was pretty lol. Good old fashioned crate-busting car chase through a market! Driving a digger on a train! Good old fashioned fist fight on top of the train! Bond playing drinking games with a scorpion!
― Dog the Puffin Hunter (ledge), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
thought the scorpion cgi was a bit amiga 500.
was he shown taking drugs, or was that just something alluded to in the assessment report?
― caek, Monday, 12 November 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link
and having depressed sex !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 12 November 2012 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
he has pills in the bungalow before he leaves for the beach bar, hasn't he ?
i think the pills are pain-killers but clearly he's been caning them. the opening chase was fully hilarious
― movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:21 (eleven years ago) link
the opening chase reminded me of the big chase in the Tintin movie !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 12 November 2012 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
back to the movie as deconstruction of the Bond series
Silva has such a tormented relationship with MI6, to an extent it being the flip side of the government's need for secret agents. We're told via the hearing that agents are a cold war relic, that they're not as useful in a more transparent society, and possibly more of a liability when they're outed. M isn't just justifying the existence of agents, she's justifying the public's want for Bond pictures. Silva is what happens when governments don't need secret agents -- they still exist, but he's outside the system. Even makes a reference to coming up with his own "secret missions." He, as much as the audience, fetishizes and sexualizes the idea of agents as much as he does Bond.
― d-_-b (mh), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
Silva as audience stand-in
― d-_-b (mh), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:30 (eleven years ago) link
Silva as private contractor potentially having public work outsourced to him
― movember spawned a nobster (Noodle Vague), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
or, as my friend reminded me:"this is the bond that returns M to the paternal figure with a feminine assistant, and the bad guy was an unstable homosexual who wanted to die with his mother, whom he felt betrayed him"
kind of not the best movie when it comes to presenting reasonable social views
― d-_-b (mh), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, November 12, 2012 11:23 AM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Yes, I thought so too!
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Monday, 12 November 2012 16:36 (eleven years ago) link
did I imagine Bond doing a "dude, stop hitting me, there's a komodo dragon behind you" gesture to his opponent before he gets eaten. kind of out of character to warn a guy. maybe this nu-bond has more empathy for henchmen?
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 12 November 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
this whole transition was strange, i didn't quite understand her plan or his. in macau he's like "who do you work for" and she's basically like if you can make it out of here alive and get to my boat before i leave i'll show you. so he sneaks aboard, immediately STRIPS and bonks her in the shower, which she loves obviously, then.. they're woken with juice, toast, and a few submachine guns pointed at their noses? bond tries to take out the baddies offscreen but fails? or they just stroll up to the deck and wait to be cuffed? in which case she has basically sacrificed herself?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, November 12, 2012 8:38 AM (3 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yes this exactly! i assumed he had taken out her minders... but he didnt? and he just moseyed onto the deck the next morning unaware or not caring that there were guards all around?
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:15 (eleven years ago) link
also can anybody fill me in on what the assassin was actually doing in shanghai? who did he kill? some kind of art expert? the whole thing was a set-up i guess?
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 November 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
"this is the bond that returns M to the paternal figure with a feminine assistant, and the bad guy was an unstable homosexual who wanted to die with his mother, whom he felt betrayed him"
I liked the movie but this is a good summary of some stuff in it that was icky
also Bond girls are by definition pretty disposable but "that was a waste of good Scotch" after she got shot seemed needlessly cruel
add me to the list of people who didn't understand what the heck happened on the boat
― dmr, Monday, 12 November 2012 18:11 (eleven years ago) link
well replacing M wasn't really icky in itself but the whole "women aren't cut out for field work" thing with Moneypenny, and Bardem seeming like a mincing gay stereotype at first (this kind of got less pronounced as the movie went on)
that scene where he took his teeth out was great
― dmr, Monday, 12 November 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
Bond is trying to meet her boss why because radio + gunships -> he convinces her that he can kill her boss -> she tells him about the ship going to meet her boss -> Bond arrives on the ship and basically gives himself up, possibly because fuck finding Silva in a place that size when he can be just taken to him, possibly because he is sure that he can escape why because Bond -> she has judged poorly.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 12 November 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
Or she figures that she doesn't mind dying if there's a chance Silva will be caught.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 12 November 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
The assassin was doing a completely different job, Bond as always relying on blind luck.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 12 November 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
no right i got that it was a totally difft job, just wondering what the job actually was (and why bond seemingly needed to wait for him to shoot the dude before wreckin shop) - it didn't bother me, actually i liked how it was this window into the routine workaday world of the international assassin, just wondered what was up
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 November 2012 20:50 (eleven years ago) link
if the assassin didn't execute, the employer would have gotten suspicious.
how come bond only had the one bullet wound? shouldn't he have at least another from being pegged by moneypenny? plus years of spying.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 12 November 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link
He had a couple, the one that was swole was where he still had shrapnel in there
― d-_-b (mh), Monday, 12 November 2012 20:56 (eleven years ago) link
I love how trying to understand stuff that make no sense in this movie make the movie even better !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 12 November 2012 20:59 (eleven years ago) link
if the assassin didn't execute, the employer would have gotten suspicious
see i'm starting to realize why mi6 never called me back
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link
haha also i will admit that for a long time i thought the bullet he extracted FROM HIMSELF like a goddan RONIN HARDMAN was the moneypenny bullet and i was like, why are you having this analyzed, just ask moneypenny, wait why is moneypenny using radioactive rounds that makes no sense, wait oh
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
guess i was the only one...
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
is bond canonically half-French? it'd be a weird thing to add to the franchise just now unless the next movie they reveal le chifre was his uncle or something.
― Philip Nunez, Monday, 12 November 2012 21:15 (eleven years ago) link
well it would explain his retrograde attitude towards women and his need for approval from a mother-figure
/yeah that's right
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:21 (eleven years ago) link
yeah, I was also quite suprised that his mother was french (or canadian ?).there are many french bond girls, that said !
― AlXTC from Paris, Monday, 12 November 2012 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
maybe it's because I come from a backwards country, but kinda surprised "what makes you think it's the first time? (smirk)" hasn't gotten more attention. het sex icon in gay-brag shocker?
― hot slag (lukas), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:27 (eleven years ago) link
The MI in MI6 stands for "Male Intercourse." True story.
― C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
the flirty back and forth between bond and bards SCANDALIZED the audience in the theater i was in
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
haha, really?
― d-_-b (mh), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link
A guy in our theater yelled "WHAT?!?!" like he was very taken aback -- it was one of the most emotional responses to a movie I've seen since a guy ran out of Crossroads crying.
― this will surprise many (Nicole), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
― d-_-b (mh), Monday, November 12, 2012 4:38 PM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah—i don't think they were grossed out, just... scandalized
― Author ~ Coach ~ Goddess (s1ocki), Monday, 12 November 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
hope you mean the macchio crossroads
steve vai... oh god *chin trembles* i can't take it
― goole, Monday, 12 November 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
Parental stuff is canon, but she's not quite French:
James Bond was born of a Scottish father, Andrew Bond of Glencoe, and a Swiss mother, Monique Delacroix, from the Canton de Vaud.
― woof, Monday, 12 November 2012 22:01 (eleven years ago) link
Tracer you were NOT the only one about the bullet, I promise, I thought the same thing at first
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 12 November 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link
Of interest:
http://eandt.theiet.org/magazine/2012/10/hashima-island.cfm
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:26 (eleven years ago) link
cool, I was asking about that upthread
― under minnesota shakedown (mh), Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
Bullet confused me as well, Tracer. Wasn't helped by having him reflected in a mirror as he dug out the bullet fragments, either.
― bizarro gazzara, Tuesday, 13 November 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link