EZRA KLEIN v MATT YGLESIAS

i'd rather msnbc got rid of lawrence o'donnell than ed schultz

shultz brings a good old school vibe to the proceedings imho

yglesias could do lockup raw

http://www.vice.com/read/paul-ryan-what-stupid-people-think-a-smart-guy-sounds-like/

ostensibly about paul ryan but mostly about ezra klein & matt yglesias

Yglesias is a total idiot when it comes to school "reform".

yglesias has probably made good points here and there but god he's insufferable in general.

By comparison, the Republican impulse to close ranks and enforce ideological conformity around litmus tests and shore up their own social base seems awfully sophisticated. Big policy changes, after all, require mobilized and militant political actors.

the GOP hasn't achieved any big domestic policy changes in decades and its awfully sophisticated decision to close ranks has lost it countless elections, is responsible for the slow death of the party itself.

Yglesias seems like he'll turn into David Brooks as he ages.

surely Ezra Klein would

article is pretty dumb

left-wing people who don't operate as total ideologues said something less than 100% uncritical about public sector unions, scandal

xp Klein fights the liberal fight with some passion at least. Yglesias/Brooks are dry, remote, and see THE DATA only for the trends and not the underlying fomenting morass — pure, unadulterated technocrats. I haven't read much Klein in a long while though, only here and there.

i'd rather msnbc got rid of lawrence o'donnell than ed schultz

― goole, Monday, November 12, 2012 10:36 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shultz brings a good old school vibe to the proceedings imho

― lag∞n, Monday, November 12, 2012 10:37 AM (1 week ago)

ha really? i much preferred ratigan as the "angry guy who yells"

wtf comparing yglesias to brooks, gtfo

sorry, chief. i'll leave.

left-wing people who don't operate as total ideologues said something less than 100% uncritical about public sector unions, scandal

― iatee, Monday, November 19, 2012 7:53 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

eh this is a p bad mischaracterization, they point wasn't that it was 100% uncritical but that it was misrepresented union's actual goals/popular support

they didn't say anything about the overwhelming (47%?) popular support? and whether the union's goals are $ or fighting reforms that doesn't really contradict what yglesias said about them. this is a 'gotcha' w/ no 'gotcha'.

lol @ the idea that brooks traffics in 'data', is a 'technocrat' - i see this and i think the person who thinks this never passed a science or math class after the third grade and/or is a gop congressman serving on the house science, space, & technology committee.

Brooks is Emperor Epistemic Closure.

i'd rather msnbc got rid of lawrence o'donnell than ed schultz

― goole, Monday, November 12, 2012 10:36 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

shultz brings a good old school vibe to the proceedings imho

― lag∞n, Monday, November 12, 2012 10:37 AM (1 week ago)

ha really? i much preferred ratigan as the "angry guy who yells"

yeah i kinda miss Ratigan. what's he doing now?

i originally had moderate hopes for O'Donnel but really can't stand him now. i'd p much rather watch that cock Olbermann

tbf i have watched all of these shows like two times

I just got cable and already the only person I can stand is Chris Hayes.

hayes is p otm but he is sooo bad at talking on the tv

like you listen to him and then realize you have absorbed absolutely nothing hes said, hes not connecting the words and meaning or something

slightly suspicious of him as a guy i must admit, even tho i agree w/what hes saying, feel like he might just be jumping on the inequality bandwagon

I disagree. Two weeks ago he gave a synopsis calling bullshit on the Fiscal Cliff that was concise and on-point. It's not baseball bats against Nazis, of course.

also he wears those light sensitive lenses ON TV

worse: his teeth are capped and whitened.

i'm still pro-hayes but having his twitter go from links to stuff in the nation etc to promoting his show and the coinciding change in tone(?) is like a less horrifying version of when donald glover's twitter feed went from 'behind the scenes lols at community' to 'ATLANTA - CHILDISH GAMBINO TONIGHT twitpic'.

yeah hayes seems pretty earnest and otm

Yeah Hayes' endless earnest excitable grad student who just loves to have the conversation thing is actually pretty adorable & heartening from my POV.

His book, like I wrote elsewhere last week, is an excellent master's thesis.

slightly suspicious of him as a guy i must admit, even tho i agree w/what hes saying, feel like he might just be jumping on the inequality bandwagon

― lag∞n, Tuesday, November 20, 2012 7:50 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

my sources tell me he started out as a labor beat reporter in chicago, so, i don't think so!

yeah its maybe not that he doesnt believe it but twilight of the elites has some aspirational meme creation vibes

his book's thesis is v otm but I have no desire to actually read it

what is the thesis

“We overestimate the the advantage of meritocracy and under-appreciate the costs, because we don't think hard enough about the consequences of the inequality it produces.”

punkd http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox/2012/12/18/chamber_pots_in_brooklyn_artisanal_poo_is_a_bad_substitute_for_housing_supply.html

read hayes' book, it's totally inessential

i have to say that i was a lil hard on hayes upthread i v much appreciate that hes a dude on tv whos really hammering inequality issues, hes just sort of bad at tv, msnbc needs to provide some coaching or something

Ezra Klein ‏@ezraklein
Pretty excited that the West Wing is streaming on Netflix now

About 5 years ago Hayes wrote something for the Nation I disagreed with (in part) so I wrote him a brief & somewhat unfriendly email telling him as much. He replied with about a thousand words thoughtfully explaining himself to me when he had no obligation to do so, and he did as if he were having a conversation with one of his colleagues or someone he respected and not some random butthurt internet dude. Our politics are basically the same but I would be Team Hayes even if they weren't.

http://i.imgur.com/o4bOC.png

Awww.

Meanwhile neo-con Mickey Kaus is after Ezra for saying years ago that digitizing hospital records would cut healthcare expenses, while a new report now says that this has not been the case.

http://dailycaller.com/2013/01/18/the-mystery-of-ezra-klein/

sort of feel bad for ezra sometimes, hes kind of like an extremely precocious eleven year old and politics is like girls http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/03/today-in-well-duh

lol krugs sonned him read that this morning

mike murphy ‏@murphymike

Yes RT @mattyglesias @murphymike So yr view is that if Obama agreed to all-cuts deal today, he could build trust, get balanced deal later?

the recent profile of ezra in some publication i've since forgotten (TNR? i think it was TNR) wasn't very flattering

when i read that first article and was like wow he's being awful credulous about this. sort of nice to see he was quickly disabused of it.

whenever he appears in front of a camera he looks like Rick Moranis ogling Sigourney Weaver.