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well it's complicated. like I don't think #1 is untrue but that also doesn't mean that chinese currency manipulation hasn't been a major factor in jobs going offshore

and if we start attacking companies who decide to offshore, we're still participating in economic nationalism and promoting a sort of 'made in america' culture.

okay but you wouldn't have splashover onto asian-americans, which is all I really care about tbqh

I mean I get the appeal of a rarefied "technically this is true" thinking but on the ground this type of attack politics has real actual effects on actual people, no matter how carefully crafted the political message is

well china's exchange rates have actual effects on actual people too! I mean w/ this particular ad it's not even 'technically this is true' but my bigger point is that the umbrella narrative that this is happening under (china takes our jobs) generally isn't considered objectionable, even by the left

I think we're talking past each other

/ and I think that is a much bigger problem than goofy fake chinese font xp

uh this isnt really about a 'goofy fake chinese font'

the takeaway box trope is awful tho i guess that & vague economic resentment the extent of a lot of ppls engagement with 'china'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinky

what's it about? I basically think some dumb flyer's asian stereotypes are 'less problematic' than the big picture narratives that the entire country accepts w/r/t trade policy but #2 is harder to question / talk about

xp

this sort of imagery is inherently toxic

taking it to fb because I don't really feel like getting into this on here

us-china relations are going to get ugly enough in the next decade without this sort of crap

takeaway box is a sort of racism-by-synecdoche

After several campaigns by the Scottish Executive, more people in Scotland now acknowledge that this name is indirectly racist.

are you fucking kidding me?

what's it about? I basically think some dumb flyer's asian stereotypes are 'less problematic' than the big picture narratives that the entire country accepts w/r/t trade policy but #2 is harder to question / talk about

what? a white guy thinks the racism angle isn't really a big deal? eat it edward r murrow I've got the scoop of the year

what? aero purposely misreads an iatee post so he can get a zing in?

the point wasn't that 'the racism angle isn't really a big deal' the point was that the racism angle that 1000 people get isn't as important as the racism angle that 300 million people get

which is 'an american deserves a job more than a chinese person does'

eh, more that products purchased in america should be economically viable to produce in america, thus encouraging local employment

that same logic works in china! where people are poorer!

what, like no one owns foxconn? not /everyone/ is poorer

a friend I was talking to last night had been in china recently and people were excited to see her using a tablet running android! they'd never seen android, since apparently devices aren't sold there or are somehow legally restricted. she wanted to use google docs, though, but it was banned by the country's firewall. a lot of android devices are manufactured in china!

she also talked to some people who had seen a tv show about american dollar stores, and they were surprised by the variety of items available for only a dollar. how much do you want to bet a fair number of things were actually made in china?

the economics, manufacturing, and product availability of things is weird, I guess.

just saying. samsung is a big player in chinese smartphone market (19% market share) （galaxy android phones on taobao） and htc. i bought a samsung galaxy in dalian in april. google docs usually works for me in china but gets locked up about as often as blogger does (goes in erratic cycles). chinese consumers like apple. china has their own version of dollar stores selling the same cheap shit for less than a dollar and you can find the same shit in any corner store or downmarket department store.

and other android devices widely available in china： http://s8.taobao.com/search?q=android&pid=mm_10011550_2325296_9002527&unid=&mode=63&from_bt=1&initiative_id=staobaoz_20121111

yeah, it seemed really off to me! I'll have to ask where she was. The intermittent lockdown was what she meant, though.