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seems like we should have a thread on this guy, idk

but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

Who he?

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:40 (thirteen years ago)

It's really an anagram of "Nole Skum."

C-3PO Sharkey (Phil D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:41 (thirteen years ago)

Suk Lemon

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:44 (thirteen years ago)

ahe's kinda like tony stark, so i gather from ten mins research, but without the weapons and with clean energy and space

but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

it's kinda surprising he isn't more well known all things considered

iatee, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:45 (thirteen years ago)

seriously. if wiki is even half-accurate shouldn't he be a fixture on Time mag or something?

but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

His family sound really annoying. Was married to, uh, somebody who was in that St Trinians film, uh, the one with Russell Brand.

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:47 (thirteen years ago)

You realise that if he was ever to become involved in some sort of scandal and subsequent cover-up, newspapers could use the headline, "Elongate"

Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:50 (thirteen years ago)

if he was caught cheating he'd be THE MUSKRAT

but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 16:53 (thirteen years ago)

dude owes his company's survival to gov programs but
says it's no big deal if Romney wins and makes good on his promise
to obliterate them all.

Philip Nunez, Wednesday, 31 October 2012 17:04 (thirteen years ago)

lots of companies do well out of govt contracts/programs, i'd imagine.

but with socks instead of football (darraghmac), Wednesday, 31 October 2012 17:10 (thirteen years ago)

nine months pass...

so hyperloop huh

well if it isn't old 11 cameras simon (gbx), Monday, 12 August 2013 22:40 (twelve years ago)

people on twitter so mad. trying to understand why. i guess it boils down to:

1) shouldn't we fix BART / buses / systems that working class people use before building toys for rich people

2) LA-to-SF only is ridiculous, there's like a whole state in there

3) nobody wants to hear half-baked plans from an arrogant rich dude

still, i mean, it's pretty cool, right?

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 22:55 (twelve years ago)

1) shouldn't we fix BART / buses / systems that working class people use before building toys for rich people

There are lots of problems everywhere all the time. Can't let it stop technology from moving forward.

2) LA-to-SF only is ridiculous, there's like a whole state in there

There's a whole country, even! LA-to-SF sounds like a perfectly fine beta test.

3) nobody wants to hear half-baked plans from an arrogant rich dude

Not all rich dudes are arrogant. Elon Musk has never struck me as anything close to that.

Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:13 (twelve years ago)

people on twitter so mad.

who do you follow?

markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:17 (twelve years ago)

i'm not getting that impression from all the tech ppl i follow

markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:17 (twelve years ago)

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:18 (twelve years ago)

You might be right, Johnny, dunno. I was just trying to figure out why there was this explosion of contempt all over my twitter feed after the announcement.

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:19 (twelve years ago)

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

eris bueller (lukas), Monday, 12 August 2013 23:24 (twelve years ago)

i do follow tim but i guess whatever he said didn't stick

markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:27 (twelve years ago)

cool monorail bro

lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:54 (twelve years ago)

lol

markers, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:55 (twelve years ago)

i have a plan for a train that goes from boston to atlanta in 10mins, its called lasertrain and ill give you some cool drawings of it in a couple weeks, its ridiculous no one is building it btw it only costs $10

lag∞n, Monday, 12 August 2013 23:59 (twelve years ago)

im not gonna build it tho cause im kinda busy

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (twelve years ago)

even i can afford that

markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:00 (twelve years ago)

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

isn't his point that hyperloop would be fraction of the cost and twice as fast?

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:02 (twelve years ago)

the douchey thing is that he made a big ol deal abt something thats not at all real

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:07 (twelve years ago)

Which is how 70% of architecture and urban planning works.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (twelve years ago)

sure 70% that sounds totally realistic too

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:10 (twelve years ago)

I meant 94% sorry.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:12 (twelve years ago)

To me, it really sounds like a kickstarter project... but from a billionaire.

Van Horn Street, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:17 (twelve years ago)

i mean who knows maybe its revolutionary technology but its so preliminary its p comical to call a press conference abt it

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:18 (twelve years ago)

maybe this is the best way to convince someone else to give it a shot idk

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 00:25 (twelve years ago)

LOL "elon musk"

the late great, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:00 (twelve years ago)

This should keep us occupied for a while: http://www.spacex.com/hyperloop

c21m50nh3x460n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 03:09 (twelve years ago)

markers, here are some of the people that were entertainingly scathing: kalebhorton, quartzcity, tcarmody, mikesonn

I wasn't scathing about Musk (I am about futurism in general) - if anything, he has a good track record on quixotic tech quests. I hope he's successful with this. I also hope there's a state left that can use it.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:37 (twelve years ago)

unveiling this while CA is deep in the hole with it's bullet-train project (something I support wholeheartedly btw) is pretty arrogant

Knowing how CA politics works (and the CA rail projects are amazingly political), how would you expect a non-arrogant to even get traction with this?

I have no doubt that Musk will solve the Hyperloop technical issues. I very much have doubts about him navigating Sacramento.

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 04:40 (twelve years ago)

I was describing this to my wife today and kept calling it Supertube.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:14 (twelve years ago)

Bad connotations...

http://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/supertrain-1_7696.jpg

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 05:21 (twelve years ago)

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

wk, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 06:23 (twelve years ago)

Musk says the Hyperloop is best for distances of 900 miles. Beyond 900 miles, he thinks you're better off in a supersonic jet.

Lol

joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:33 (twelve years ago)

I never use my supersonic jet anymore as parking is always a total bitch

joe sixpac hologram (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 11:35 (twelve years ago)

I have to say I rather like Elon Musk. He's made a massive pile of money and rather than sitting on it or managing it in mundane ways; he's making risky bets on thinks he's passionate about: Cars, Rockets, vacuum tubes.

Hyperloop seems a bit ridiculous to me, vacuum tube powered trains and trains in evacuated tubes are an old chestnut, almost as old as railways themselves. However, he's built a commercially viable private space programme and a car company* in the last ten years so anything is possible.

*Tesla isn't really a car company it's a power train company and if it is still making cars in 5 years I'll be surprised.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:18 (twelve years ago)

ya i'm kinda ll for crackpot genius billionaires actually doing interesting stuff, up until they become str8 up supervillains obv

darraghmac, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (twelve years ago)

lol @ the "open source" pdf proposal. build a section of the thing and then get back to us when you have it working.

― wk, Tuesday, August 13, 2013 2:23 AM

he might do this

markers, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:23 (twelve years ago)

is this dude one of the crazy silicon valley libertarian types or is he just beloved by them?

carlos danger zone (mh), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:27 (twelve years ago)

iirc he has liberal tendencies mixed in w the libertarianism

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:28 (twelve years ago)

xp I heard him speak and he seemed not crazy and to have some kind of social or at least environmental conscience, unlike the usual libertarian types, but maybe he's just better at hiding it

(I like him too fwiw and right now he seems one of the most likely "crackpot genius billionaires" to solve some hard problems which are overdue for solving, so I hope he carries on with that. Also hoping that one day I'll get to see/read his computer game that appeared in some 8-bit micro type-in listings mag in the 80s)

the supreme personality of Godhead : a summary study (a passing spacecadet), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:35 (twelve years ago)

he's not as bad as some of the other silicon valley libtards, I'll give him that.

nonetheless, this is a stupid proposal

joe schmoladoo from 7-11 (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 13 August 2013 15:35 (twelve years ago)

the unmistakable odor of an oasis concert

lag∞n, Sunday, 22 March 2026 01:17 (two months ago)

^BOOM

Ed, Sunday, 22 March 2026 03:37 (two months ago)

ha forgot about elon suing companies because they wouldnt advertise on twitter

BREAKING: A federal judge has dismissed X's advertising antirust lawsuit with prejudice.

After finding the court lacked jurisdiction over some of the named defendants, as to those remaining, Judge Jane Boyle stated: "X has not stated an antitrust injury."

https://bsky.app/profile/chrisgeidner.bsky.social/post/3mhxwpyqf3s2d

lag∞n, Thursday, 26 March 2026 15:49 (two months ago)

Just have to buy the courts i guess

anserine machine (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 March 2026 16:34 (two months ago)

one month passes...

he's in Oakland right now!

Wonder if he'll make it out to the bars, maybe I'll see him

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 29 April 2026 23:55 (one month ago)

I guess it’s possible he’d go to the corniest place imaginable. What’s the most epic bacon location? I’d check there

mh, Wednesday, 29 April 2026 23:56 (one month ago)

I'm sure he's already ensconced in some silicon valley walled estate, sipping cognac and reminiscing about the good old days of apartheid and blockchain

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 30 April 2026 00:22 (one month ago)

winning

At one point, Savitt asked Musk: “OpenAI was formed as a nonprofit in 2015. True or false?” After prevaricating, Musk said: “In this case, yes.” But then he went on: “The reason you can’t simply answer a yes or no question, for example if you ask, ‘Have you stopped beating your wife … ’”Judge Gonzalez Rogers stopped him from finishing, as several people audibly gasped.

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 30 April 2026 00:41 (one month ago)

commented about it elsewhere but he absolutely botches every turn of phrase he quotes because he doesn't actually get the underlying meaning of any of them, only the situation where they're deployed

also his entire case rides on the fact it was a public benefit corporation and he was supposedly to be involved in direction but didn't have any actual position! he spent zero minutes listening to his own lawyer

mh, Thursday, 30 April 2026 01:18 (one month ago)

yeah there may also be some issues with statute of limitations, all this shit happened a long time ago

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 30 April 2026 01:24 (one month ago)

it seems that his mother’s X account made a post that seemed to be from the perspective of his father, meaning Elon has likely been posting as both of them and screwed up which one he he was logged into

it was his mother’s account that called off the idea of a UFC-style fight with him and Zuckerberg. hrrrm.

mh, Wednesday, 6 May 2026 12:27 (one month ago)

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:cfnqg4gh5y4fvo7hixcruzy3/bafkreihogwhx4p2v6t2vqag7yu7eii2qirajxb3khqjrfpse5ffu7xnjmm

this shit is pretty funny get off the drugs elon

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 May 2026 13:41 (one month ago)

Pretty amazing that Elon became a real boy when his parents were Sock Puppets.

The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Wednesday, 6 May 2026 13:46 (one month ago)

ok so not only does he post hundreds of times a day (and his own kid) he’s also posting as his own parents? get a hobby, loser

Brenton Wood Conference (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 6 May 2026 14:11 (one month ago)

The only thing that matters to him is getting us to Mars

The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Wednesday, 6 May 2026 14:12 (one month ago)

a furrier u say

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/gmvStx7AhH4/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEhCK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAxMIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD&rs=AOn4CLCsQK42FI2QbyOa55iGhlSIPgZNSg

natural bumppo (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 6 May 2026 14:13 (one month ago)

it must be excruciatingly boring to be a billionaire with no inner life, no curiosity, no interest in art or books, no interest in even travel your every waking moment is dedicated to accumulating more wealth

Brenton Wood Conference (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 6 May 2026 14:19 (one month ago)

And making yourself feel superior to other ppl. Lame.

tobo73, Wednesday, 6 May 2026 15:14 (one month ago)

That's pretty much all billionaires though, kinda need those traits to be one

octobeard, Wednesday, 6 May 2026 15:24 (one month ago)

i'm dying at this, Elon is the most pathetic of our already completely pathetic group of try-hard billionaires who should probably be 187ed.

omar little, Wednesday, 6 May 2026 15:34 (one month ago)

I think in the long term the Ellison family has still been worse but he's a lot of terrible concentrated in one all-too-visible presence

mh, Wednesday, 6 May 2026 15:37 (one month ago)

elons killing of hundreds of thousands of children via doge usaid cuts def puts him at the top of the list

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 May 2026 15:47 (one month ago)

there's plenty of blame to go around on that one but yeah, I'll bump him up in the rankings

mh, Wednesday, 6 May 2026 15:50 (one month ago)

This article is pretty interesting both because it paints a truly dismal picture of the giant bath Musk took on buying and destroying Twitter, and also because it tries as hard as it can to suggest that maybe Twitter's still worth a lot because it feeds Grok/xAI so much data — and still comes up sounding pretty feeble.

https://europeanbusinessmagazine.com/how-x-actually-makes-money-and-why-a-44-billion-bet-still-hasnt-paid-off/

X in 2026 is not a social media company trying to fix its ad business. It is a data infrastructure asset embedded inside the world’s most ambitious AI development programme, owned by the same person who controls the world’s leading private space company. Whether that convergence of AI, data and platform economics justifies the valuation is the only question that matters now. The jury remains out.

Narrator: The jury does not remain out.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 May 2026 20:43 (four weeks ago)

I mean, if I owned an LLM, the last thing in the world I would feed it is a diet of raw X posts.

paper plans (tipsy mothra), Monday, 18 May 2026 20:45 (four weeks ago)

yea feel like you'd much rather train it on Reddit and other message boards where people actually try to answer questions rather than the shitpost capital of the world

frogbs, Monday, 18 May 2026 20:47 (four weeks ago)

twitter is free and x rivals are absolutely scraping it

adam t (dat), Monday, 18 May 2026 20:55 (four weeks ago)

i have a relative who is a self employed tech consultant hired by xAI to do something. He says it was the most dysfunctional company he had ever worked with. No one he worked with had a clue what they were doing or trying to accomplish. Employees were just rotated from Musk’s other companies. that last point really drives at home that humans are just interchangeable parts to our tech lord like Musk.

Brenton Wood Conference (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 18 May 2026 21:08 (four weeks ago)

everyone’s day was spent trying to look busy

Brenton Wood Conference (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 18 May 2026 21:09 (four weeks ago)

two weeks pass...

Decapitated at the ankles

assert (matttkkkk), Thursday, 4 June 2026 06:54 (one week ago)

The unmitigated zoology of it!

peace, man, Thursday, 4 June 2026 12:32 (one week ago)

being barrel chested used to be a good thing back in the “guys who catch cannonballs in their gut” days. Now “pigeon-chested”, on the other hand, was not good.

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 4 June 2026 13:28 (one week ago)

did we get this heartwarming story?

A federal IT staffer filed a complaint about DOGE, then went public. Shortly after Elon Musk boosted a post calling his claims false, his brake lines were cut.

https://www.wired.com/story/he-blew-the-whistle-on-doge-then-his-brakes-were-cut/

Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Thursday, 4 June 2026 14:18 (one week ago)

it makes me so sad to think that the amazing whistleblowers and others who put themselves on the line to fight back against this utter trash are being swept away and forgotten in a non-stop deluge of shit-coated "news" that never ends, never stops raining on us, covering us with shit until we are exhausted and helpless to remember

Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Thursday, 4 June 2026 14:20 (one week ago)

I still need the occasional reminder that there are still decent people

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 4 June 2026 15:14 (one week ago)

interview by jon stewart w slobodian re muskism was harder on my will to live than i anticipated. but def increased my will to fight.

just what is it that you think the "ilxor algorithm" directs? (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 10 June 2026 23:48 (five days ago)

bbc just considered whether spacex is _actually_ about building datacenters in space. is it? is that why we gonna public (in a not gov't sense) fund/personal profit this fucker to being a trillionaire? and really, to the extent any of this ai binge becomes too big to fail, it is public in a gov't finance sense.

just what is it that you think the "ilxor algorithm" directs? (Hunt3r), Friday, 12 June 2026 13:19 (three days ago)

datacenters in space is an unworkable idea for the foreseeable future

whimsical skeedaddler (Moodles), Friday, 12 June 2026 13:56 (three days ago)

That won't stop Musk from promising them.

The Quaker Gurvitz Army (President Keyes), Friday, 12 June 2026 13:58 (three days ago)

its such an outrageously stupid bullshit idea its crazy that there are people talking about it like its a real possibility

lag∞n, Friday, 12 June 2026 13:58 (three days ago)

so many reasons that "datacentres in space" doesn't work that I'm not sure where to start. it's like last year when they talked about fully customisable interactive AI movies.

Here is the mentioned donkey, (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 12 June 2026 14:02 (three days ago)

This from a couple of months ago was pretty good:

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/03/nx-s1-5718416/ai-data-centers-in-space-spacex-elon-musk

To go from a handful of prototype satellites to something useful is not so easy. For one thing, the power requirements of the microchips used for artificial intelligence are enormous.

To get a sense of just how much power is needed, consider the largest power-producing facility in space right now: the International Space Station (ISS).

The solar panels of the ISS are around half the size of a football field and produce around 100 kilowatts of average power, according to Olivier de Weck, a professor of astronautics at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. "It's basically the amount of power that a single big car engine produces."

To replicate a 100-megawatt data center in space would require a facility that's 500 to 1,000 times, depending on the orbit.

"Is that feasible? Yeah, I think it's feasible, but not next year and certainly not in three years," he said.

And power is not the only requirement; the satellites also have to provide cooling to the microchips. While it's true that space is cold, it's also a vacuum. This means that when a satellite gets hot, there's no easy way to get rid of that heat — it just builds up.

"All of that heat that the computer generates has to be dispelled," said Rebekah Reed, a former NASA official now at Harvard University's Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.

The best solution is radiators, which move liquids out to giant panels where the heat can be dissipated. So in addition to solar panels, an AI satellite would need another set of large radiators.

"When you put those massive radiators together with massive solar arrays that are required in order to power and cool, you're actually talking about really large satellites, or very, very large satellite constellations," Reed said.

An alternative is to build smaller satellites and fly them in preset formations called constellations. Such constellations allow the heat and power problems to be distributed, but to work, the satellites would need to send huge amounts of data back and forth. That likely means using lasers to beam data between satellites. But even moving at the speed of light, the time it takes to get data from one satellite to another is long enough to slow down computing.

Google's Project Suncatcher proposes flying groupings of satellites in extremely tight clusters to reduce that latency. Musk, meanwhile, has proposed launching upward of a million satellites and placing them in orbit around Earth's poles. He recently unveiled the first generation "AI Sat Mini" spacecraft — with solar arrays spanning roughly 180 meters (about 600 feet) — during his presentation.

Launching all that into space would cost money — lots of money. At the moment, it can cost around $1,000 per kilogram to launch a satellite into orbit. Google believes that cost must drop by at least a factor of five to $200 per kilogram before data centers in space will begin to make sense.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 12 June 2026 15:20 (three days ago)

$200 per kilogram?! i kept telling vader "if you can't bring the deathstar in at-or-under budget, palpatine is gonna have you audited, but using the dark side of the force"

just what is it that you think the "ilxor algorithm" directs? (Hunt3r), Friday, 12 June 2026 17:26 (three days ago)

After the SpaceX IPO he's now a trillionaire. Why isn't he helping us? He seems to have no interest in philanthropy. He could do so much good without even lifting a finger. It's evil

Dan S, Saturday, 13 June 2026 00:12 (two days ago)

hi, i used to work at a satellite broadband company. there’s a big reason data on the fucking moon is a problem that’s nothing to do with power.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 13 June 2026 00:57 (two days ago)

xp dude thinks he’s saving humanity with slave-based Mars colonies

The Immortal Bird of Avon (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 13 June 2026 01:12 (two days ago)

https://www.wired.com/story/he-blew-the-whistle-on-doge-then-his-brakes-were-cut/

― Cattedrale metropolitana di Santa Maria de Episcopio, Thursday, June 4, 2026 10:18 AM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is insane. the coverage of this ipo made me nauseous. the full story of doge has not been revealed, but it was obviously a criminal attempt to undermine the very idea of self government. look at starbase, texas. he and thiel want to turn america into a series of gated company towns where they own everything.

treeship., Saturday, 13 June 2026 01:59 (two days ago)

yeah i mean him being -redacted- would be a benefit to all of humanity

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Saturday, 13 June 2026 12:31 (two days ago)

Jon Langford of the Mekons riffing at the end of "Millionaire" during last night's performance in Rhode Island.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aivX2R8sxG8

TO BE A JAZZ SINGER YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SCAT (Jazzbo), Sunday, 14 June 2026 17:23 (yesterday)


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