What is considered a "fat girl" these days? I really want to know.

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deej, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 07:36 (fifteen years ago) link

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the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 09:23 (fifteen years ago) link

ZAFTIG, mentioned above, appears late in Jonathan Lethem's novel THE FORTRESS OF SOLITUDE. I understood the word so little I had to look it up. I'm still not sure I understand it, and perhaps I understand it even less after seeing its use on this thread.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 09:25 (fifteen years ago) link

George Pesante

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the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 09:35 (fifteen years ago) link

ha zaftig. margaret cho uses that word best.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 13:51 (fifteen years ago) link

to mean ... what?

the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:05 (fifteen years ago) link

chubster

Surmounter, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:06 (fifteen years ago) link

gosh, I don't think that's what Lethem meant by it. Maybe I will report back on this. It's in the last quarter or so of TFoS, when Dylan Ebdus, invisible, sees a female prison guard and thinks admiringly that she's zaftig.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:18 (fifteen years ago) link

margaret had a great gig about how her producers were telling her she was zaftig. and then at a restaurant she heard the waitress say "zaftig, perhaps?" but really she was saying "a soft drink, perhaps?"

mwahaha

Surmounter, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:39 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah, it means thick in the good way.

Jordan, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:45 (fifteen years ago) link

Curvy, soft. Pudgy maybe but in an erm extremely feminine way. Alternately it could just mean "busty".

Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Also I don't know if you'd call a petite girl with a big rack "zaftig", I feel like there are connotations of stature as well, like, y'know "a lot of woman".

Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

sounds like my kind of tig, I mean, ting, I mean, thing.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:52 (fifteen years ago) link

so is like rose mcgowan a good example of zaftig or is she still too skinny?

Surmounter, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:57 (fifteen years ago) link

Far too skinny surely!

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 July 2008 14:59 (fifteen years ago) link

She's not remotely chubby, is she?

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:00 (fifteen years ago) link

A famously nearly nude Hollywood starlet like RMcG? Totally, totally way way too skinny unless you mean merely in comparison to a runway model.

Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:02 (fifteen years ago) link

no, especeially not these days, but she's always pulled off that beautiful voluptuous thing

right, right, i know you're right.

Surmounter, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Jess needs to be here to properly define this

kingfish, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:03 (fifteen years ago) link

Charlotte Church?

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:04 (fifteen years ago) link

RIP Jess's definitions

Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:07 (fifteen years ago) link

Re Charlotte Church, a quick GIS says "maybe, depending on which photo yer talking about" to me.

Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:12 (fifteen years ago) link

She is zaftig these days

Tom D., Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

The point is sort of that zaftig is a folk term, and was born from the Ashkenazic population of sort of famously peasant-y Eastern Europeans (I think, don't ask me to trace it back any farther). I would say that a) it's all relative, and b) there's an essential earthiness or hmm... suggestion of bounty, fertility.

Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:14 (fifteen years ago) link

sounds otm to me

Surmounter, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:15 (fifteen years ago) link

zaf·tig Audio Help /ˈzɑftɪk, -tɪg/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[zahf-tik, -tig] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective Slang.
1. Gianna Michaels, fer real

yungblut, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

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yungblut, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 15:16 (fifteen years ago) link

180 lbs isn't fat! Not if you're tall, anyway. I mean it's not skinny, either...was that article written by an R. Crumb of 1918?

Abbott, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 18:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Funnily enough I was watching the new American Gladiators show last night and they give height and weight for the glads -- and none of the women was admitted to be over 155 lbs even though they ranged from 5'7" to 5'10" and clearly all had shoulders and thighs the size of quarterbacks'. I do respectfully suggest that that is extremely unlikely; 180 sounds far more probable (and healthful).

Laurel, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 18:27 (fifteen years ago) link

i would suggest that you are right about that

rrrobyn, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 18:39 (fifteen years ago) link

are fat girls really sluttier??

homosexual II, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 19:03 (fifteen years ago) link

okay, SLUTTIER is not the word.
easier to get in the sack?

i guess as a ZAFTIG girl myself I should know the answer to that

homosexual II, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 19:04 (fifteen years ago) link

Googled for the legernd that is George Pesante and found that the article is from a 1962 bongo mag:

http://www.erosblog.com/2008/07/17/chubby-girl-1962/

(nsfw pic, btw)

Bodrick III, Tuesday, 22 July 2008 19:34 (fifteen years ago) link


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