defend the indefensible: new jersey

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"i.e., Hurting, your obscenely narrow-minded world view appalls me. It is my hope that you're just a glorified trollbeing, but it is my fear that you truly believe the unenlightened bullshit you spew. "

Relax. I thought it was pretty clear that I was being somewhat facetious.

― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 30 October 2004 05:53 (twenty-one years ago)

But I maintain that New Jersey is a considerably better state to live in than those, Bill Blass and Ralph Abernathy notwithstanding.

― Hurting (Hurting), Saturday, 30 October 2004 05:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll back down then, only because it is, after all, your prerogative to believe that one place is "considerably better" than another, just as someone else might think the reverse.

(You want someone to "defend the indefensible", region-wise? I'm [mostly] your girl.)

― Accept No Substitutes (Dee the Lurker), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:09 (twenty-one years ago)

haha the only music i've bought this year i bought at wal-mart!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

where does hurting buy his/her music?

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:24 (twenty-one years ago)

i love it when people say incredibly dickheaded things and then say 'relax' when someone goes 'hey, you're a dickhead'

― cinniblount (James Blount), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:25 (twenty-one years ago)

relax, dude was kidding

― motown modown (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)

IT IS LIKE TOTALLY BETTER THAN TEH OC AND TEH VALLEY BY LIKE SO HELLA MUCH, LIKE REALLY.

― Vic, Saturday, 30 October 2004 15:14 (twenty-one years ago)

You don't have to pump your own gas? Actually, I hate that.
Oh, that drives me nuts. What an idiotic law.

Other reasons to love NJ:

Because of my Joisey accent, my best friend thought I grew up in Marstown until he flew out to NJ with me for a short vacation and we got off 287 at Morristown. He's from Virginia, where they don't skip syllables.

Incredible bakeries.

You had to get on a highway & back off one exit later to reach the closest place to buy milk from my parents old house. However, the store, was really only 1/4 mile away- just on the wrong side of the highway, without which, you could have walked over to it.

DINERS. I can't believe the rest of the country hasn't caught onto how to do these right.

― lyra (lyra), Saturday, 30 October 2004 15:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, my cousin's cat lives there, and likes it.

― Vic, Saturday, 30 October 2004 15:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I live in Morristown right now and type from there as we speak. It's a good town, and I'll be here for the foreseeable future as I just bought a house. Anyway, New Jersey is confusing and exciting and I never thought I'd end up here (back to where I grew up --well 7 miles from anyway-- ya know) but I love it. Jersey shoreline is etched in my bones. Very few good record stores around me. Great food, everywhere. Good people, culturally & economically and otherwise diverse neighborhood here, very walkable town. It's definitely defensible but maybe I'm biased so I'll let others defend it.

― mcd (mcd), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:44 (twenty-one years ago)

the princeton record exchange, baby

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Sure, PREX in the running for the best record store anywhere, and I get there occasionally, but unfortunately it's 61 miles away.

― mcd (mcd), Saturday, 30 October 2004 16:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm still bitter about the closing of crazy rhythms in montclair.

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 18:46 (twenty-one years ago)

The Sopranos is set there.

― Wooden (Wooden), Saturday, 30 October 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

the jersey devil!

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Saturday, 30 October 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)

bruce

― RJG (RJG), Saturday, 30 October 2004 20:10 (twenty-one years ago)

the bongos

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Saturday, 30 October 2004 22:10 (twenty-one years ago)

also...Ruts Hut to thread, world-famous "ripper" hot dogs.

Holy shit, Dan Selzer, are you sure you're not related to me? My brother has not one, but TWO Ruts Hut t-shirts. My dad used to take my mom there for dinner when they were dating. Hot, eh? I love that place, damnit.

I was born in Passaic County and raised in Bergen County, home of the most malls per sq. mile. I love Jersey. It will always be home.

― Je4nne ƒury (Jeanne Fury), Saturday, 30 October 2004 22:34 (twenty-one years ago)

jane from Oneida was wearing a Rut's Hut t-shirt at a little house party one day. I flipped out, apparently his bandmates took him there for his bachelor party! My father grew up in Clifton/Passaic, used to take me there growing up. Also, at this one place in West Orange, "italian" hot-dogs = hot dogs on pita bread with fried potatoes and onions and pepper. I've never seen this anywhere else.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Saturday, 30 October 2004 22:40 (twenty-one years ago)

"very walkable town"

Yes! I went to school in Morris County, and you could walk all over town, and also catch buses or trains to either nearby towns or the city. Now I live in a suburb where you have to drive EVERYWHERE, yuck.

I have never been to the Princeton Record Exchange.

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 31 October 2004 02:22 (twenty-one years ago)

rosemary, we have to go! i found my copy of the jewish-american princess there.

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 31 October 2004 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

i found mine at the wfmu record fair!

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 31 October 2004 02:48 (twenty-one years ago)

i spent a decent amount of time ... and an indecent amount of money ... at the princeton record exchange whilst growing up & in college. its allure is somewhat gone, in this amazon and P2P trading era, but it still beats 99.99% of other record stores hands down.

Adding to the contradictions that is NJ, disregarding the request to not discuss proximity to NYC, yes, while a portion of NJ is a suburb of NYC, another portion is a suburb of Philadelphia, and people who live in south Jersey do not in any way identify with north Jersey or NYC, despite it not being that long a drive. My family was split in two, my cousins were all in Cherry Hill.

this was a good summary of my undergrad days, when i met students from north jersey. north jersey might have been the northside of mars!

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 31 October 2004 02:53 (twenty-one years ago)

the real odd ducks, though, were the unfortunate RU students from MUCH further south than, say, cherry hill. i mean the students from vineland, cape may, or salem and gloucester counties generally. if north jersey = north mars, deep south jersey = mississippi.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Sunday, 31 October 2004 02:55 (twenty-one years ago)

http://scc.rutgers.edu/njencyclopedia/cover.jpg

this book is kinda cool, one of my local libraries has it

― tokyo rosemary (rosemary), Sunday, 31 October 2004 03:01 (twenty-one years ago)

one of my exes came from cherry hill; as an adult he moved to philly. another ex was from freehold; he moved to nyc. (nb: the freehold guy was much cooler and more worldly. it's that PROXIMITY TO NYC, nyeh nyeh.)

― results not typical (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 31 October 2004 03:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I forgot a reason- CLERKS!

― lyra (lyra), Sunday, 31 October 2004 03:18 (twenty-one years ago)

NJ was, is, and apparently always shall be underrated.

― mike a, Sunday, 31 October 2004 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i've also never been to the princeton record exchange, despite being told repeatedly about how great it is. i'm from union county though and lack a car, so a trip isn't in the cards anytime soon, either. shame.

― joseph (joseph), Thursday, 4 November 2004 01:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Sad to say though, but the Princeton Record Exchange is not nearly as good as it used to be. Last I went they had maybe half the vinyl they used to have. Still better then most record stores, but living in NYC and having quite a few options, such as the Academy stores, for vinyl, it just doesn't hold up.

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 02:20 (twenty-one years ago)

The thing about prex is that sometimes the stock is hearty and others not so much. Still great!

― mcd (mcd), Thursday, 4 November 2004 03:34 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.occdsb.on.ca/~sel/cahero/images/brodeur02.jpg

That's about it...

― Jimmy Mod always makes friends with women before bedding them down (ModJ), Thursday, 4 November 2004 03:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure New Jersey voted for Kerry.

isn't that enough?

― trigonalmayhem (trigonalmayhem), Thursday, 4 November 2004 03:48 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm pretty sure New Jersey voted for Kerry.
isn't that enough?

YES

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 4 November 2004 04:42 (twenty-one years ago)

hands up, everyone whose state has pine barrens. or towns with names like ong's hat, hohokus, zarephath, etc.

i'm not even from new jersey and i love it.

― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:27 (twenty-one years ago)

zarephath = a village on an island in the raritan river FILLED WITH JESUS PEOPLE WHO HAVE THIS RADIO STATION WHOSE RELIGIOUS BROADCASTS THAT COULD PENETRATE A NUCLEAR BUNKER. scary place, scary people, scary station.

― Eisbär (llamasfur), Thursday, 4 November 2004 06:35 (twenty-one years ago)

there's 2 cool things we share w/ conneticut

First: All the italians who made NY pizza what it was when it became an institution and all the jews who made NY bagels what they were when they became an institution almost all live in Jersey and Conneticut now, which is why you have to go to Livingston to get REAL bagels.

Second: Also in Livingston, there were these weird fenced off areas of the woods with empty fields on them heavily guarded for most of the 60s/70s/80s etc. Only later did I realize what they were...missile silos! To protect NYC...

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 4 November 2004 07:34 (twenty-one years ago)

NJ rules because it has proper seasons, the people there are witty and towns with cool names like mahwah and rahway.

they have crazy sandwiches called 'fat moons' that have chips, burgers and mozzarella stix fillings.

― sophie, Thursday, 4 November 2004 09:59 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

Is there a New Jersey accent or dialect?

― .adam (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

*boggle*

― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 00:23 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh, so it's like the one in the movies? I've only been to Newark.

― .adam (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 00:24 (twenty-one years ago)

That Weird NJ site mentioned upthread is amazing. I have a fascination with places that are run down and empty, but you know once they were places of grandeur - Asbury Park made me feel all spooked reading about it. Coney Islands a bit like that too yeah? Not abandoned tho.

I like old dead creepy seaside places. I guess thats why I like St Kilda too (or well - St Kilda how it was before the damn yuppies moved in and tarted up all the old dirty charm).

― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a New Jersey accent or dialect?

there are many!

― Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 00:51 (twenty-one years ago)

i love new jersey. it lets me take pictures like this:

ihttp://plainparade.org/thesis/NJ-01.jpg

― maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:29 (twenty-one years ago)

every yo la tengo album cover ever to thread!

― Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:31 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.buttondepot.net/bos/nj.JPG

Really, I do.

― RS LaRue (rockist_scientist), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Vaguely on topic:...

"Born to Run" by Bruce Springsteen -- who really enjoys this overproduced crappy glop?

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Is there a New Jersey accent or dialect?

yeah the sopranos accent exists, but what i hear most of is a slightly jewishy northeasty variant on a standard american accent -- the way jon stewart speaks is exactly like most of my jersey friends speak.

― Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:34 (twenty-one years ago)

the philly people can expound upon what the philly-suburban accent is like. i think it sounds kinda gay.

― Turkey versus Eagle, McCauley is my Beagle (Jody Beth Rosen), Wednesday, 5 January 2005 01:37 (twenty-one years ago)

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And here I was thinking that purposefully creating traffic on the GWB was the height of douchebaggery...

― calstars, Tuesday, 4 July 2017 01:49 (eight years ago)

one month passes...

ICYMI

In bombshell testimony that’s likely to dog the Christie administration in its final months, NJ Transit’s fired chief compliance officer said Friday he was forced out with little explanation after his repeated attempts to raise questions about systemic issues at the troubled agency, which he called a “runaway train.”...

Particularly troublesome to lawmakers were the issues of patronage hiring, which they have been looking at closely since last year. NJ Transit has been unable to provide resumes for numerous top staffers and officials could not explain why it had been unable to locate any such records.

http://www.politico.com/states/new-jersey/story/2017/08/25/fired-nj-transit-executive-says-agency-is-runaway-train-114153

― ice cream social justice (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 29 August 2017 16:51 (eight years ago)

nine months pass...

https://explorepartsunknown.com/new-jersey/bourdains-field-notes-new-jersey/

― the ignatius rock of ignorance (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 14 June 2018 14:35 (eight years ago)

thanks,going to watch that one again tonight!

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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/trenton-arts-festival-mass-shooting-leaves-20-injured.html

― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 17 June 2018 15:48 (seven years ago)

three years pass...

Today, I signed historic legislation to protect reproductive freedom in New Jersey – codifying the right to choose into state law and expanding contraception coverage.

In New Jersey, we trust each individual person to make their reproductive choices for themselves. pic.twitter.com/5fOb6azXIa
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