I can see how you could get this idea if you've only read a few of them, but really the entire series is one grand, and very satisfying, story arc. Probably about 60% of the issues contribute to it. It's good election year reading, too. There need to be more political comics!
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 7 October 2004 04:15 (nineteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 7 October 2004 04:19 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Thursday, 7 October 2004 04:26 (nineteen years ago) link
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― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 7 October 2004 04:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Thursday, 7 October 2004 04:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 7 October 2004 04:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Well, yeah. It's just me, I know. I don't go to comics to see people being sensitive. Combine that with a lot of the genuinely whiny crap that has been selling at the comic store lately, and I guess I'm just not able to appreciate "Blankets" for what it is. It might be Stevie Ray Vaughn, but white-boy blues gets on my nerves in general, you know?
― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Thursday, 7 October 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 7 October 2004 04:42 (nineteen years ago) link
With the exception of Chris Ware, who is the exception the proves the rule. Besides, he's less whiny than just flat out fucking depressing.
― Gold Teeth II (kenan), Thursday, 7 October 2004 04:45 (nineteen years ago) link
okay, these are actually trade paperbacks, but oh well.
― Sir Kingfish Beavis D'Azzmonch (Kingfish), Thursday, 7 October 2004 04:46 (nineteen years ago) link
― Core of Sphagnum (Autumn Almanac), Thursday, 7 October 2004 06:23 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 7 October 2004 06:31 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 06:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 7 October 2004 06:57 (nineteen years ago) link
― J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 7 October 2004 07:10 (nineteen years ago) link
my picks (mostly seconded from above) would be, Watchmen, Sin City, Dark Knight Returns (but not the second one), Top10 (all 12 issues are collected in 2 volumes), Batman Year One, Arkham Asylum, Elektra Assassin, Plastic Forks (probably impossible to find now) and any of the Concrete collected issues.
new Dave Gibbons hardback, The Originals, out this month btw, looks great but is about Mods. http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13693
― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 7 October 2004 07:38 (nineteen years ago) link
No offense, but that's nonsense. Hellblazer's had a dozen writers over 200 issues, some of whom (Paul Jenkins, I'm looking at you) only served to tie up loose ends from three or four writers ignoring and rewriting each others work. And there's at least one (self-contained) Sandman collection where it's clear that Neil Gaiman doesn't really have a grand concpetion of where he's going.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 7 October 2004 08:33 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 7 October 2004 08:37 (nineteen years ago) link
actually, yes, Hellblazer wasn't a good example as it does seem to have self-contained 4 or 5 issue storylines. but, given that there are 200 issues available now, which one do you pick? i'd much rather buy something that contained all 12 issues of something that was planned as 12 issues, that had a beginning, a middle and an end, than something that was just a snippet of a much bigger thing. that was my point, stated badly 8)
― koogs (koogs), Thursday, 7 October 2004 08:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― gaz (gaz), Thursday, 7 October 2004 09:05 (nineteen years ago) link
My other recommendation is for him to ask what his hipster ex-roommate reads, then avoid that, but then I hate emocomics.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 7 October 2004 09:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Wooden (Wooden), Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:23 (nineteen years ago) link
i would recomend "lone wolf and cub" as well but thats a lot of paper to buy. so better stick with "the legend of kamui" by sanpei shirato which is drawn in similar style but is moer concise and dramatic. and has girls.
― :|, Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:43 (nineteen years ago) link
plenty of good titles listed.
Grendel, Black White & Red is another
― kephm, Thursday, 7 October 2004 12:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link
In 7th grade I thought that 4-volume original Elfquest stuff was the shit! Made me have funny feelings about...things.
― andrew m. (andrewmorgan), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan Perry '08 (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 October 2004 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link
for non-indie stuff, Sandman seconded, I devoured the whole series in a three month jag, probably read it too quickly. There are lulls in it but on the whole it's staggering. I'm not big on Gaiman when he gets too twee or clever but he's in check most of the time in the series. The early Hellblazer stories are pretty good but it lost focus and became uninteresting to me quickly. I hate, hate, hate Preacher. The Invisibles was pretty good but I never got the desire to finish it after a point. You can't go wrong with Watchmen (most Moore stuff is pretty good, even the recent things; Top 10 was cool, Tomorrow Stories was fun; Promethea was great up to the point where it didn't seem like a story was ever really going to happen, it seems like it was just an extended character sketch), and From Hell is brilliant. the Moore Swamp Thing stories are collected now and are really good too.
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:08 (nineteen years ago) link
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― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:13 (nineteen years ago) link
omg youre right! i thouhgt this was all the kamui there was.
― :|, Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link
(yay magick comix)
― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:29 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link
― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link
Still, some arcs or mini-series are clearly meant to be of a piece, and just happen to be released in issues first (like the first Kabuki collection?). There's also the phenomenon of "writing for the trade", the same as filming for the dvd I guess.
― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 7 October 2004 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link
― Loose Translation: Sexy Dancer (sexyDancer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:03 (nineteen years ago) link
The Diary of a Teenage Girl - Phoebe GloecknerEpileptic - David B.Summer Blonde - Adrian TomineI Never Liked You - Chester Brown
I understand the Blankets backlash but I think that there is something rich being uncovered throughout the story in the religious overtones. Like jaymc says, there's a lot that you don't catch visually the first time through that adds a very sophisticated counter-element to the plot. That said, I totally understand why someone would not want to read about sad teenage boy nostalgia.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:24 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:25 (nineteen years ago) link
I didn't like Tomine untill recently when I gave him another chance w/ Summer Blonde and loved it. A few weeks ago I was at a party of like 8 people, me and 3 others in the living room, then 4 people in the hallway who left after an hour. I was like hey who was that? And my friend was like, that was Adrian Tomine, and I was like WHY THE HELL DIDN'T YOU INTRODUCE ME!!!!
Phoebe Gloeckner's work is amazing.
― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:33 (nineteen years ago) link
Tomine is great but I fear he is becoming predictable.
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:37 (nineteen years ago) link
― Remy (x Jeremy), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:38 (nineteen years ago) link
― kephm, Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:48 (nineteen years ago) link
I don't!
― kyle (akmonday), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:50 (nineteen years ago) link
It's issues #5-8 of Optic Nerve (I think). But it's where he really hits his stride.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 7 October 2004 16:53 (nineteen years ago) link
I have the Planetary Omnibus coming my way for Xmas, which I am expecting to enjoy.
Some recent GN purchases -
Seth - Wimbledon GreenTom Gauld - MooncopInio Asano - Nijigahara HolographWarren Ellis - Injection
All good, especially Wimbledon Green and Injection
― Maresn3st, Monday, 7 December 2020 20:25 (three years ago) link
I also bought the first few volumes of Bill Willingham's 'Fables' for my nephew's secret Santa and it looks pretty interesting.
― Maresn3st, Monday, 7 December 2020 20:27 (three years ago) link
Oh, one more, Jodorowsky and Moebius' 'The Incal' perhaps not a 14-year-old read, well maybe a trippy but edifying 14-year-old read, I'd have definitely been into it at that age, I think. The artwork alone is amazing.
― Maresn3st, Monday, 7 December 2020 20:30 (three years ago) link
Fables is a good pick for teens who would vibe on it, because there are so. many. volumes
― huge rant (sic), Monday, 7 December 2020 22:32 (three years ago) link
For some out-there stuff that's still PG rated, I liked V1 of Prism Stalker. Setting and story is A+ but the art is B-/C+ -- sloane leong is not great at drawing action poses.
― wasdnuos (abanana), Monday, 7 December 2020 23:18 (three years ago) link
I think Trondheim’s INFINITY 8 is among the best comics of the year. All 24 issues available in English.
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link
8 volumes? A shame they're all in hardcover but it looks interesting. Has that changing art crew like Dungeon.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:09 (three years ago) link
Doesn't seem PG rated with the nudity, same goes for Dungeon, looks deceptively child friendly and my copy of Dungeon Monsters: Heartbreaker says "perfect for kids" on the back cover and has two rape scenes; obviously whoever wrote that read different volumes.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link
oh yeah they (and dungeon) aren't for kids. didn't note that was your line. i thought crowded by image was okay and might be teen appropriate?https://imagecomics.com/comics/releases/crowded-vol-1-tp
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:17 (three years ago) link
Assuming this thread is still serving DJH's 14 year old.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:21 (three years ago) link
i'm serving gear from 16 years ago
― the serious avant-garde universalist right now (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 8 December 2020 17:24 (three years ago) link
x-post. Thanks Robert. This thread has been so useful for buying presents for a close friends kids ... but doesn't have to be *all about me*.
― djh, Friday, 11 December 2020 19:50 (three years ago) link