http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-20061001
― Algerian Goalkeeper, Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:50 (thirteen years ago)
Fleet Street routinely nurtures a crop of untold stories about powerful abusers who have evaded justice. One such is Peter Morrison, formerly the MP for Chester and the deputy chairman of the Conservative Party. Ten years ago, Chris House, the veteran crime reporter for the Sunday Mirror, twice received tip-offs from police officers who said that Morrison had been caught cottaging in public toilets with underaged boys and had been released with a caution. A less powerful man, the officers complained, would have been charged with gross indecency or an offence against children.
At the time, Chris House confronted Morrison, who used libel laws to block publication of the story. Now, Morrison is dead and cannot sue. Police last week confirmed that he had been picked up twice and never brought to trial. They added that there appeared to be no trace of either incident in any of the official records.
http://www.nickdavies.net/1998/04/01/the-sheer-scale-of-child-sexual-abuse-in-britain/
― ざっぴ (zappi), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:52 (thirteen years ago)
Accused is also a teenager, I think. One of the reasons they are not being named.xp
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 20:55 (thirteen years ago)
I know it's 15 years old but my God that Nick Davies piece is relentless.
― sug sug sputnik (seandalai), Wednesday, 24 October 2012 21:09 (thirteen years ago)
From the Savile nephew piece:
"I just think it's very, very sad you can say these things after someone's died and the law says you can't defend yourself when you're dead."
Damn the law for forcing this silence on otherwise chatty corpses.
― sug night (sic), Thursday, 25 October 2012 00:34 (thirteen years ago)
Name being bandied about on twitter last night, not repeating here because I'm not keen on finding out the intricacies of libel law the hard way.
― ailsa, Thursday, 25 October 2012 07:58 (thirteen years ago)
He was named at the time of the original arrest in May (which is why people know the name to spread around, and why I know who it is) but most references to this have been redacted and is now deliberately NOT being named. He's 17 now, I think was 16 at the time of the alleged offences.
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Thursday, 25 October 2012 08:29 (thirteen years ago)
also it's a completely separate and unrelated case
― lex pretend, Thursday, 25 October 2012 08:33 (thirteen years ago)
Agreed. It wasn't me that brought it in, but I can see how with no other details someone could make a connection to 'BBC actor in sexual assault'. The politician referred to by Tom Watson (if I'm making the right connection) is also a completely separate and unrelated case.
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Thursday, 25 October 2012 08:36 (thirteen years ago)
Or rather, there has been an unrelated accusation against a senior Tory politician. Tom Watson obviously is a fan of David Icke, as he has long held this chap was at the heart of a secret Tory paedo cabal, but I'm unaware of any other rumours or suspicions.
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Thursday, 25 October 2012 08:42 (thirteen years ago)
Watson's contribution was really unhelpful. The accusations against Morrison appear to be unrelated, possibly not even criminal now, and clarifying it was someone else he was talking about just gives license for speculation. The names being linked have either been the target of completely outlandish conspiracy theories or simple homophobia for years .
― Go Narine, Go! (ShariVari), Thursday, 25 October 2012 08:59 (thirteen years ago)
Yeah, that BBC article doesn't actually mention that it's a BBC actor, so not sure why it was brought in here, but since AG seems keen on identifying people I thought I'd give him a hint. Now you mention it, I think I remember the actor in question being named about something earlier in the year.
― ailsa, Thursday, 25 October 2012 09:02 (thirteen years ago)
ShariVari otm - the Morrison thing seems to be stuff that wouldn't be criminal now; alternatives offer free rein for homophobes/conspiracists to make suggestions about any ranking Tory they've thought might be gay.
― woof, Thursday, 25 October 2012 09:35 (thirteen years ago)
Why is it that other sectional groups are always communities, but paedophiles are always "rings"? They need better PRs.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Thursday, 25 October 2012 09:50 (thirteen years ago)
Still a page on Daily Mail website with news story about teen actor's arrest back in May.
― comedy is unnatural and abhorrent (Scik Mouthy), Thursday, 25 October 2012 09:53 (thirteen years ago)
is it the chubby one from harry potter? he always seems to be getting in trouble with you lot.
― how's life, Thursday, 25 October 2012 10:21 (thirteen years ago)
did a daily mail search re: sick's post...if it's that guy then jheeeeeze
― Blue Collar Retail Assistant (Dwight Yorke), Thursday, 25 October 2012 10:31 (thirteen years ago)
Communities have 'leaders' and PR spokespeople.
"Rings" have no one person having a greater 'status' than any other member.
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:01 (thirteen years ago)
rings have leaders. ringleaders, you could call 'em
― stet, Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:09 (thirteen years ago)
stet: worryingly au fait with paedoring hierarchies imo
― i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:13 (thirteen years ago)
does anyone ever use "ring" for anything except paedophiles?
it's like a murder of crows.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:14 (thirteen years ago)
might place an ad somewhere suggesting starting a "book-reading ring"
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:15 (thirteen years ago)
jazzercise ring
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)
Satanists maybe?
― woof, Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:18 (thirteen years ago)
art thieves also prone to meeting in circles iirc
― i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)
liberals
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:19 (thirteen years ago)
Organised crime ring, anyone?
― ella fingerblast hurls forever (suzy), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:20 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.reocities.com/cryssi18/webring3.jpghttp://www.webring.org.uk/cropcircle/title.gif
― sug sug sputnik (seandalai), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:21 (thirteen years ago)
spy ring
Yeah, was gonna say "Webrings" back in the day...
― Mark G, Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:22 (thirteen years ago)
ppl called 'rosie'
― i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:25 (thirteen years ago)
nope, never heard this used. carry on, everyone.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)
Corpse-bothering philanthropist and Radio 1 coffin-jockey Jimmy Savile was well-known for his rings iirc
― Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:30 (thirteen years ago)
terror, car-theft, heroin, heterocyclic.
― woof, Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:31 (thirteen years ago)
heterocyclic.
can't believe lance armstrong was a paedo.
― Know how Roo feel (LocalGarda), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:33 (thirteen years ago)
and he murdered crows
― Mountain Excitement (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:44 (thirteen years ago)
disgusting
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 25 October 2012 11:46 (thirteen years ago)
Lord of the Rings: the Savile Story
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:28 (thirteen years ago)
Coffin Rogerer: the Savile Story
― Named locally as Tom D (Tom D.), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:43 (thirteen years ago)
ghost rider
― i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:50 (thirteen years ago)
Some people are talking about his necrophilia as being like a last nail in the coffin, and to be fair, he apparently had a few of those before he died.
― Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:51 (thirteen years ago)
xp Except that Ghost Rider doesn't hurt the innocent.
― 'uckin' leg-end (snoball), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:52 (thirteen years ago)
When the headstone and flowers were removed from his grave, all that was left was a hole and no bush. It's what he would have wanted.
― my father will guide me up the stairs to bed (anagram), Thursday, 25 October 2012 15:56 (thirteen years ago)
thread delivers
― i will fondue, and i will killue (darraghmac), Thursday, 25 October 2012 16:01 (thirteen years ago)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2223192/Who-gave-Jimmy-Savile-key-care-homes-hospitals.html
littlejohn... otm? shudder.
enjoyed this too:
The most chilling photo produced so far was Savile posing for pictures inside Broadmoor with the Yorkshire Ripper, Peter Sutcliffe.Say cheese, Jim. Big grin, Pete. Thumbs up, three sombreros.
thumbs up, three sombreros?
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Friday, 26 October 2012 08:15 (thirteen years ago)
Of course the other guy in that famous picture is big Frank. Wonder what he makes of it all?
― Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Friday, 26 October 2012 08:35 (thirteen years ago)
Not trying to suggest that he was some sort of hearse-chasing carcass-fondler btw.
― Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Friday, 26 October 2012 08:36 (thirteen years ago)
L-R: Bruno, Sutcliffe, Savile:
http://mydisguises.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/REV-3-amigos.jpg
― Arvo Pärt Chimp (Neil S), Friday, 26 October 2012 09:47 (thirteen years ago)
Steve Martin is about as funny as Peter Sutcliffe these days tbh
― Aimeej0rd0nian Ghoulcaper (NickB), Friday, 26 October 2012 09:54 (thirteen years ago)
xp hope they don't do the Three Amigos salute
― ILX until I die (snoball), Friday, 26 October 2012 10:01 (thirteen years ago)