The Shining

i still can't understand why they don't rush broad release of small films like this. i get something like Avatar, which benefits from being scene in 3D in an IMAX screen and is expected to make a fortune on screens, you don't want to rush to release on DVD/online. but a tiny doc w/ very limited niche appeal like this they should just sell on their website ASAP. not 2 years later.

Usually 'social significance' trumps cinemania, so I have my doubts. And the IFC page sez 2013. xp

Guessing they're avoiding the awards-bait crush and you'll see this around March.

Maybe not a good idea to sell what is basically a re-edited version of The Shining with narration on top of it. I imagine web critics get lots of copyright notices for things like 1-second long Back to the Future clips, let alone 30-45 full minutes of movie footage.

The superimposed image part was probably my favorite now that I think about it.

Usually 'social significance' trumps cinemania, so I have my doubts. And the IFC page sez 2013. xp

Don't NY crix use NYFF showings for eligibility? A lot of other groups just follow in lockstep after that.

Nope. Has to have a run of a week, I think. The NY Times doesn't even run actual reviews of NYFF films anymore til they open commercially.

R237 opens in the UK this Friday, apparently.

(That last Jafar Panahi 'smuggled' film played NYFF 2011, but opened at Film Forum last spring, so it counts for all the local prizes this year.)

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Yep, am seeing it on Sunday

Think the docu that's going to get all the plaudits here in the UK is The Imposter, which again, may not have opened in the US yet?

I actually haven't been on the pulse of docs at all this year. Whatever emerges from the pack has to be better than The Bully Project.

well, there's The Central Park Five.... and so the doc/essay conundrum again.

Which ACT UP doc is better?

I haven't seen any of them (aside from a partial rough cut last year), but How to Survive a Plague is getting the best distribution/ reviews. There's also Kirby Dick's feature about rape in the military.

shit, just tried to get tickets online for Room 237 at BAM...unsuccessful,guess it's sold out

r237 rules

There must be alot of people that never went to alt.movies.kubrick.

http://i896.photobucket.com/albums/ac162/Burnedtoasty/GIFs/understatement.gif

Doesn't seem like social relevance matters much these days for docs -- The Interrupters was basically ignored at awards time iirc? This poor movie doesn't have a chance ;_;

well of the last 6 Oscar-winning docs, 4 were "issue" films: climate change, CIA torture, dolphin hunting, Inside Job. The other two were about high-school football and Philippe Petit.

anyhow, this film isn't really a doc?

Well, but neither are you.

what, is it circulating around on alt.movies.kubrick?

I think that was an intended jape re familiar theories.

oh, ok. thks, morbius

The solstice of 1977 has special alignment with the symbolic conflict of The Shining for in 1977, as the December days get shorter and shorter, the moon gets fuller and fuller, climaxing in a full moon on Christmas Day. In fact on the winter solstice of 1977, the sun and moon share the sky for two hours and fourteen minutes, the exact amount of time Wendy and Danny are in the narrative of The Shining. (They enter at four minutes in and exit at two hours, eighteen minutes — The longer US cut of course.) If we assume The Shining to take place in 1977, then Jack dies sometime before daylight on December 23rd, making that first Tuesday sequence occur on December 13th. So The Shining skillfully avoids all holidays again, missing both Christmas and Hannukah, which occurred December 5th-12th in 1977.

speaking srsly, whatever it really "means," the scene where danny stands up with the rocket on his sweater is really tremendous and the narrator is clearly a very clever reader + watcher of films (even if he also lol believes the moon landing was faked)

― Mordy, Wednesday, October 17, 2012 7:44 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I feel kind of stupid for not picking up on all that America symbolism, which is so blatantly there even if it doesn't have much to do with a fake moon landing.

I also picked up on something else I've never picked up on before -- a possible echo/mirror of Dr. Zhivago (writer exiled to cavernous house in snowy winter) which I only thought of because he brought up the cold war and russia. But maybe it's a stretch.

What does user sexydancer think of this docu?

(Alternate question was user sexydancer involved with this docu?)

so many "docs" in this thread!

*farts*

Misha gif! I went to school with him.

(Alternate question was user sexydancer involved with this docu?)

I think so, yeah. Or at least posts about it on facebook a lot.

He put on The Shining Forwards and Backwards in Brooklyn: http://kdk12.tumblr.com/post/4879566957/the-shining-forwards-and-backwards

he 'pears innit

That's what I thought, yeah.

As for which doc will get critical attention at year-end -- Searching for Sugarman? Haven't seen but I want to. Got enough buzz that it got Rodriguez on Letterman at least.

the backwards/forwards segments in Room 237 were probably my favorites

I dunno what happened to your order, Iago, but I just got one for BAM.

really? something seemed funky about the pay process while it was happening...i'll try again. thanks for leting me know, morbius!

done! see you there, morbius! and thanks again

"Kubrick's The Shining Analysis - What he wanted us to Know - The Fake Moon Landings."

this is possibly creepier than the actual movie. watching this alone at night. i'm like scared.

that video is amazing because there's innumerable points where you're like "wait, what? how does that follow??" but then you just keep watching, fascinated.

the narrator's voice and the unnatural way he cut up his monologue sounds kinda creepy to me. he talks over certain scenes as they're progressing. i haven't seen the movie in a while, so mentally processing both the narrative and the creepy visuals is sorta double creepy bonus.

what, is it circulating around on alt.movies.kubrick?

Not that I've seen

Is this really the first yall have heard of the Kubrick Faked the Moon Landing theory?

In NYC we've seen these on the street for about 20 years:

http://blogs.kansascity.com/crime_scene/images/toynbee_tile_13thgrand_2003.jpg

Morbs, if you get a chance you should watch this - its on Netflix streaming if you have it. It's all about those tiles and who might have been behind them.

Is this really the first yall have heard of the Kubrick Faked the Moon Landing theory?

no of course not, but as Mordy et al mentioned upthread there's a lot of weird stuff that narrator points out that i've never noticed. even something as obvious as Danny's sweater (which IS weird!).

I agree with everyone who said the forwards/backwards segment was the best. Not sure i could watch the whole film that way mind

well you only have to watch half, after that it repeats

....but in reverse

"Danny is literally carrying a symbolic Apollo 13 on his body"

hm.

would quite like to see some 24 hr psycho style installation of the shining, only instead it would loop key two-to-ten second sections until they became interminable

i think maybe the shining is kubrick's best film. i didn't always feel this way, but submersing myself in this analysis is bringing me around to that opinion.