Lance Armstrong is a God

All non-smokers act with a pompous air about smoking bans, but bars live on despite people smoking outside.

I complain bitterly about bar smoking bans when they went into effect in CA, but even within the year I had to acknowledge they were effective and when I actually quit it made it easier to do so.

i must admit that when the ban went into effect it seemed ridiculous but pretty soon i 100% approved.

Yeah, spend some time overseas and you're instantly reminded of how shitty smoking bars used to be.

remember when it was imminent in ny all the smokers were talking tuff like they were gonna stay home and smoke to their hearts content, w/in like 1 month i didnt know anyone who didnt approve

basically no one likes 2nd hand smoke

xp you're right, it's almost as if the athlete who got paid to have excellent lungs and who did actually have cancer would want to be seen publicly supporting a ban on a bad habit that is terrible for you.

also fwiw being in favor of smoking bans isn't "trying to clean up hypocrisy," there's nothing hypocritical about allowing ppl to smoke in bars, what are you on about.

he's an asshole for cheating and maybe being a sociopath---getting mad at him for something that should have happened anyway is a little weird. but hey keep austin etc

Yeah I like smoke free bars. I also like the fact Lance Armstrong was caught engaging in very health damaging drug use after being a champion of healthy living, after leaving his wife who supported him through his cancer, after leaving another woman while she battled cancer.

none of that happened in a smoking bar

also dogg i hate to tell you but taking PEDs isn't exactly as "health damaging" as smoking

roids grow tumors

awkward!

anyway its not unreasonable to begrudge the manner someone goes abt doing a thing even if you approve of the thing

Doesn't really have anything to do with Lance Armstrong, but I've worked around construction workers who take similar drugs and they can be downright scary. I watch a guy stab another guy in a roid rage because he refused to let him pay for his drink, too many scary incidents of construction workers on steroids that I stopped associating with anyone from work I didn't know.

It's interesting because taking EPO probably increased Lance's chance of survival / life expectancy while he was being treated for cancer - I assume he was anyway - but did continuing on it through his career then have harmful health effects for him, or might it at some point?

i was thinking the same thing, wouldn't years of doping use (especially testosteron) make you some kind of 'junkie'. (note that many cyclists, and i assume Lance as well, are on a helluva lot of painkillers, caffein and sleeping pills as well, which are obviously addictive as well)

no

that is not "the same thing" as what I was thinking, or asked, just ftr

isnt he on drugs
― anthony, Friday, July 23, 2004 8:53 AM (8 years ago)

I'm not generally a big fan of cynicism, but rereading the start of this thread followed by antony's contribution is funny.

anthony otm

I have some things to add here but I gotta think them out a bit. I'll be back.
― Speedy (Speedy Gonzalas), Sunday, July 25, 2004

Landis, Hamilton, or Hincapie?

haha

the thing with EPO was always overdoing it and thickening the blood to the point that riders were riding rollers in their hotel rooms at night to avoid a heart attack. but blood levels revert to normal in due course after you stop taking it. i'm no expert in blood so i don't know if that could cause long-term stress on the system - we'll get our answer if '90s-00s riders start dropping like flies within a short period of each other.

can imagine the use of growth hormones and steroids would increase future cancer risk due to over-working those areas over a long period, though. cortisone certainly has had nasty effects on footballers and the like who have trouble walking after having too many painkilling shots over their careers.

*UCI CONFIRMS LANCE ARMSTRONG STRIPPED OF TITLES
*UCI BANS LANCE ARMSTRONG FROM CYCLING

hope he has a car

*UCI DENIES LANCE ARMSTRONG USE OF CAR
*UCI KNOWS WHERE LANCE ARMSTRONG LIVES
*UCI COMPLETES WORLD TAKEOVER
*UCI IS COMING FOR YOU NEXT
*SUBMIT
*NOW

He's a bad man, a very bad man

*UCI IS COMING FOR YOU NEXT
This is where the problems started really, innit

its kind of amazing that out of all the sports cycling is the most gangster

CNN Opinion:

It's Time to Allow Doping in Sport

Agree?

http://thumbnails.hulu.com/179/50031179/142463_512x288_generated.jpg

(xp) No.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/blogs/robert-millar/the-bare-minimum

lol i had the video link of that sketch all queued up before i saw your post (xpost)

I don't agree either fwiw, but thought it was worth throwing out there for debate. I don't want drug/steroid experimentation becoming a necessary part of winning athletic competitions.

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/10/23/the-apology-lance-armstrong-will-never-give/

http://www.siab.org.au/58dgETdx002ag/ArmstrongTriangle.pdf

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/cycling/how-dopers-stole-the-best-years-of-my-career-20121026-28aif.html

Brad McGee has a fairly well thought out whinge

Lance Armstrong is a God Fraud

a fairly well thought out whinge
New board description.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MIl5RxhLZ5U

A recent Cycle Sport magazine (from before the USADA evidence was passed to the UCI and the public) referenced that, saying something like "What am I on? I'm on my bike busting my ass six hours a day. That and a cocktail of EPO, cortisone, human growth hormone and testosterone."

oooh you meant on like as in drugs, in that case everything

Lance Armstrong ‏@lancearmstrong
Alive and well in Hawaii.

you know, on the OTHER hand, couldn't he get a good job with the u.s. army? dude made himself one of the strongest fastest humans ever via chemistry. you would think there would be a supersoldier upside to all of this. i could see him training navy seals. it doesn't matter what you feed soldiers, right?

Lance Armstrong will admit to doping during his famed cycling career in an upcoming interview with Oprah Winfrey, according to USA Today Sports.

looooooooooooooooooool
http://www.oddschecker.com/cycling/specials/lance-armstrong/first-cliche

Buzz Bissinger sucks shit, but better late than never:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/01/14/buzz-bissinger-i-was-deluded-to-believe-lance-armstrong-when-he-denied-doping.html

i wonder if he's recanted months of calling ppl pussies on twitter who questioned his original stupid newsweek article?

it would be funny if he went back to each person he tweeted one by one and apologized, like a 12 stepper

LOL

"All professional athletes are narcissists;"

*closes article*

Think "We Don't Need Another Hero" should he embedded into the thread at this point