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CAn anyone geive me, or point me to a good explanation of impedance from a musical perspective, I understand it from a theoretical basis and as an analogue for for dampers in mechanical systems but I want to know more.

― Ed, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

I am going to listen to the Salaryman album that came out last year that I somehow managed to miss. I have their 2 cd's so I need to pick this one up somewhere if I can find it.

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/math/f/1/8/f186dab0d3df7124f7b100eccdf8635a.png

(sorry, I could not resist. I do not understand impedance.)

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:11 (nineteen years ago)

OK, I found this

― Ed, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:15 (nineteen years ago)

Now I understand, ish.

― Ed, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Why do these people keep insisting that I WORK today?!?!? Can't they see I'm trying to listen to Can Bootlegs?!?!??!

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:42 (nineteen years ago)

How is the Can bootleg? My iPod is dying so I won't get to hear it until i get home.

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

Eees very good, very nice, very clear sound (makes me wonder if it's even live) and good jams. I have been enjoying it. (When not being pestered for reports.)

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:47 (nineteen years ago)

Well, all of their early stuff is live, live in the Schloss Schtudios, on to two-track

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I am back in the world of the confused again.

― Ed, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think I've ever heard a live (as in at a gig) Can bootleg from 68/69 - apart from that "Prehistoric Future" thing, and that is ropey

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:52 (nineteen years ago)

OK, a quick google reveals that it's not live, it's rough mixes or demos or something - alternate versions in very good sound quality.

Ah yes, Ed, I still owe you a Krautrock Basic Sampler, don't I?

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 16:54 (nineteen years ago)

yes, although recombobulating my mind re:preamps would be helpful

― Ed, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

My i-pod is dead, dead, dead. I have no idea what hard-drive to get and I'm not sure that I can be arsed anyway. I wonder if there's any repairers who would fit a new drive for me?

Can - I am really enjoying Soundtracks recently and also disco-period stuff.

Currently listening to The Cure 'Pornigraphy' era demos - heavy duty.

Looks like we will record a track for the ILX thing in about 4 weeks. I avoided blowing my top with the band yesterday and they somehow came up with a date that everyone can do. I did give notice that conditions like 'well I can do that date unless the missus tells me otherwise' are bollocks and not acceptable. If there's nothing on, tell her you're doing it!

― Dr.C, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

I still like Neu! much more than Can, probably one of my top 5 bands evah. My God, Neu 75 is totally wonderful. As are the others.

― Dr.C, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:03 (nineteen years ago)

The battery on my iPod is dying, which means I'll no doubt have to pay Apple an arm and a leg to replace it

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:04 (nineteen years ago)

SOMEONE SEND IT ME!!!

― Mark G, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

It depends what I'm in the mood for. Sometimes I like the straight ahead drivingness of Neu! but I generally can't take too much of it in one go or I start to get... well, bored. Although I *love* the sheer *sound* of Neu! you really only need one of their records. Can has a more interesting depth and breadth to their body of work, there's a lot more going on in there. They have a lot of hit and miss stuff, but when they are absolutely ON (Pinch, Mother Sky, Mushroom) they get in this groove that I could stay in for hours. Neu! Are kind of a one trick pony. It's a *GREAT* trick, but still.

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

x-post email me yer address and I will pass it on.

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:08 (nineteen years ago)

I dig Neu & Can, but Popol Vuh, Ash Ra Tempel & Amon Duul2 up to "Wolf City" are my krautrock favourites.

I've been listening to this CD of Liszt recordings over the last few days - "Sacred Choral Music" Naxos 8.553786. Several of the tracks have piano & choir moments that are bizarrely & very enjoyably proto-popol vuh-ish. It's lovely.

― Pashmina, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

OTM. Can could well be my favourite band of all time but I don't think any of their albums are good all the way through - apart from "Monster Movie"

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:09 (nineteen years ago)

That was OTM to Kate

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:10 (nineteen years ago)

See, I am the worst person to be making this comp because I have no Popul Vuh, no Kluster.

Ah, I had to go and put on Halleluwah and the guitar (?) is just making this buzzing stereo tremolo sound which is totally FUCKING WITH MY HEAD in a delightful way.

Actually, maybe I think I will just make a "Can Best Of" comp mainly for my own use which cuts out all the annoying bits that you always skip over (like fuckign Soup or whatever) and be a solid hour of krautyjoy.

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:13 (nineteen years ago)

You couldn't really put Kluster on a comp, none of their tracks are under 25 minutes or so

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:15 (nineteen years ago)

Kluster are pretty much exclusively for late night listening for me.

― Pashmina, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:18 (nineteen years ago)

I can't really listen to them, with all that talking over the top - I prefer that Konrad Schnitzler "Eruption" album, which is Kluster anyway

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:19 (nineteen years ago)

It's going to be an MP3 mix, not an actual comp as there's no way that you can get more than about 5 or 6 Krautrock songs on a 74 min CD. ;-)

See, I think the reason that J wanted to get a copy of the one I was making for Ed, even though he lives with pretty much one of London's foremost Krautrock experts is that I will be all "oh, fuck it, just put on RuckZuck and Mother Sky and Hallogallo and Immer Weider and Krautrock..." while FMM would be all "no, no, you have to hear this really obscure 40 minute jam recorded in Michael Rother's mum's basement in 1970..."

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:20 (nineteen years ago)

Sorry, Conrad Schnitzler! I've actually spent the past few months investigating just about every Krautrock album + act that I hadn't heard yet and which, as a Krautrock fan, I'm supposed to have heard and my conclusion, there's really not that much that's any good - outwith the famous albums/bands.

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:22 (nineteen years ago)

The real hardcore krautrock experts are nearly always a complete pain in the ass! Not fun company. ("what do you mean you don't like {insert totem here}")

― Pashmina, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, I've actually solved the discrepency problem, and Halleluwah isn't even over!

(this is the track that Kosmische DJs would put on when they need to go to the loo and maybe hit the bar on the way back.)

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:24 (nineteen years ago)

If I hear one more creaky jazz rock band with a fucking flute I'll SCREAM! In fact, if I hear one more FLUTE!!! I blame Steven Stapleton, personally...

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:25 (nineteen years ago)

Ha ha, my boss has FUDGE on her desk. Yum.

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:28 (nineteen years ago)

**(Neu)Are kind of a one trick pony.**

Oh I can't agree with that. I mean they're associated with *that* motorik beat most of all, but Neu 75 has a bit of that, some beautiful piano-led stuff and a really stately slow-pulse piece - all on side 1. Then you've got Klaus Dinger's mad pre-punk thrashes on side 2. And there's plenty of more sound collagey stuff on Neu 1, with road drills and jet engines et al.

When you said Kluster do you mean Cluster? Are we talking about the same band here?

I like Harmonia. Need to hear more Faust.

― Dr.C, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:33 (nineteen years ago)

Kluster became Cluster. But Cluster were still a bit like Kluster on their first two albums (esp. 1st).

Kluster = Schnitzler, Roedelius, Moebius.

Cluster = Roedelius, Moebius

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:35 (nineteen years ago)

Kluster

The first side of Neu!75 is just like Harmonia - which is essentially Neu! slowed down with a bit more wank over the top. ;-)

::ducks::

Also, I know Cha Cha 2000 is cheesey as fuck but I still love it.

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:39 (nineteen years ago)

I love Harmonia. Esp. "Deluxe".

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:40 (nineteen years ago)

Have you heard Secret Machines' version of that?

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:41 (nineteen years ago)

Ooooh, I don't like when bands do Krautrock covers

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

... what I mean is, I've never heard a good one yet

― Tom D., Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

It's not that bad, actually!

OK, Brandon's annoying emo voice is kind of annoying. But you know what? I never have to hear that again if I don't want!

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I thought I had it here but I don't.

Obviously theirs is more "RAWK" and less drum maschine but they get the textural element dead right.

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

OK, so I definitely need a preamp. An all PUTW solution now weighs in at $285

At the other end of the spectrum is a behringer stomp box which has EQ and some tube modelling guff (which can be turned off). at £25

― Ed, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

Kate how did you get on with the Krautrocksampler pdf I sent you?

On that krautrock website http://www.midsuffolk.unisonplus.net/Top%2050.htm I have on cd or mp3 all of the top 50
and also most of the added albums that shrimp guy made on the end of the list. see http://pages.unisonfree.net/midsuffolk/Top%2051-150.htm

Some is just dodgy german hard rock that even Chuck & George might struggle to like, some of the (non-hardrock)albums are ok

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:15 (nineteen years ago)

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― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.phinnweb.org/krautrock/

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:19 (nineteen years ago)

Can we have a favourite krautrock album poll next time?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:20 (nineteen years ago)

No, because there's no way I could possibly choose just *one* Krautrock album.

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:23 (nineteen years ago)

band?

― Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:27 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe, although that changes from week to week.

― Masonic Boom, Wednesday, 7 March 2007 18:28 (nineteen years ago)

Emsk, miracle worker. :-) (Translation = NIN was the roxor.)

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 8 March 2007 00:01 (nineteen years ago)

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