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Right, I think that's a good way of putting it - I get the story they're trying to tell, even though the details of it seem off. I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing some obvious plot point.

It did seem weird that all of Neptune watches this show, though. Logan and Duncan stop what they're doing to watch a cable-access psychic show? And I know Veronica's not part of the "in" crowd, but she is dating Duncan, you'd think she'd know about it.

― The Yellow Kid, Sunday, 30 October 2005 16:03 (eighteen years ago) link

I think duncan and logan only watched it because they knew veronica was going to be on

― c7n (Cozen), Sunday, 30 October 2005 16:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Is it a rerun of the premiere tomorrow night?

― Leeeeeeeeeee (Leee), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 04:22 (eighteen years ago) link

i can't can't can't stand the awful awful musical underscoring in this show; it comes mighty close to ruining the whole thing for me (although this is a complaint i have about every television show, to be fair, and many movies)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 2 November 2005 04:46 (eighteen years ago) link

I hope there's a show this week.

― jeffrey (johnson), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 14:55 (eighteen years ago) link

According to Tvtome there is.

― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 16:29 (eighteen years ago) link

with a guest spot from Joss Whedon, even.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Wednesday, 9 November 2005 18:21 (eighteen years ago) link

Needs more Wallace. (ie some Wallace at all)

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Thursday, 10 November 2005 04:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Agreed, Wallace is fantastic.

― The Yellow Kid, Thursday, 10 November 2005 11:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Kristen Bell is on the Jimmy Kimmel show tonight.

― Are You Nomar? (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 15 November 2005 03:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Has anyone been following M@11@rd F!11m0r3? He talks about VM!

― Sonneywolferinecastleee (Leee), Thursday, 17 November 2005 06:49 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, it's scary to finally agree with MF.

But maybe he can explain the ending of last night's show to me.

― The Yellow Kid, Thursday, 17 November 2005 19:06 (eighteen years ago) link

mallard fillmore makes a goddamn snail darter joke; god save us all

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:44 (eighteen years ago) link

snail darter, a small, rare fish, Percina tanasi, discovered by a zoologist who was snorkeling in the Little Tennessee River upstream from the projected Tellico Dam. Dam opponents, including Native American tribes who would see their burial grounds flooded, fought successfully to include the darter on the Endangered Species List in 1975 (see endangered species), and the dam was halted. In 1978, the Supreme Court sided with environmentalists, but Congress declared the fish nonendangered and the Tellico was built. Snail darters are classified in the phylum Chordata, subphylum Vertebrata, class Osteichthyes, order Percomorphi, family Percidae.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 17 November 2005 20:58 (eighteen years ago) link

That was the most surreal thing I've seen on TV since Twin Peaks.

― Sonneywolferinecastleee (Leee), Saturday, 19 November 2005 07:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't like the ending, though. The sheriff is just going to watch the house, and not actually going to do anything to the parents?

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Saturday, 19 November 2005 14:25 (eighteen years ago) link

they had me with Rodney being the kid, but the Grace revelation blew me away. veronica getting her eyes covered by the mayor's daughter was a nice touch too.

― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Saturday, 19 November 2005 16:34 (eighteen years ago) link

This one must set a record for most drawn-out opening title sequence in television history for a one-hour show. My VLC player says the last one comes twelve minutes in!

Best Veronica Mars in ages, btw, maybe ever?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 05:18 (eighteen years ago) link

It seemed out of place - like it should have been two or three episodes ago. Very good, of course, but strange that it referred back to events that have been completely ignored for a couple of weeks and set up new plots that probably won't be referred to again.

Steve Guttenberg is still terrible, but I imagine the fight over his new richie-city vs. poor-county plan is going to be entertaining. Will Keith bite the hand that fed him, or will he sign on to police the city?

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Monday, 21 November 2005 05:22 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve Guttenberg terrifies me in this show. His neck is distracting.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 05:24 (eighteen years ago) link

Only thing wrong with latest ep = irresistible tessa thompson and cool-as-cucumber francis capra both m.i.a. (i don't mind wallace being gone, actually, he bugs me for some reason. it was probably just his atrocious singing that time he met his dad in the supermarket.)

does anybody else think it's weird that veronica is basically dating an asshole, who we are asked to root for no less?

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

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― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:33 (eighteen years ago) link

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― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 21 November 2005 17:34 (eighteen years ago) link

oh francis!!

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 21 November 2005 19:21 (eighteen years ago) link

That was a pretty special episode there, i think.

― jeffrey (johnson), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 01:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Steve Guttenberg terrifies me in this show.

He is! He really scares me.

― Lars and Jagger (Ex Leon), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 02:05 (eighteen years ago) link

well, they kinda teased the charisma carpenter/duncan thing, but it's hard to get a read off anything from that last episode. but yeah even that, he's just a jock and not that particularly sensitive, funny or bright. she *was* an 09er, i guess.

― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:08 (eighteen years ago) link

The friendship between Veronica and Wallace didn't seem as well-written through the end of last year and into this one. With Duncan and Logan in the picture, he pops up more as a plot device, less as her confidant/best friend.

Tessa is/was a terrible actress.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 03:57 (eighteen years ago) link

Maybe that's because, essentially, the show is filtered through V's eyes, and her eyes failed to see Gromit as more than a means to an end only towards the end of the season when OMG WE ARE BFF!

― Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 04:28 (eighteen years ago) link

just watching ep 6, now

I wish they'd stop saying ibeeza

― RJG (RJG), Wednesday, 23 November 2005 23:51 (eighteen years ago) link

i'm sorry.

― jeffrey (johnson), Thursday, 24 November 2005 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link

ibeeza, ibeeza, ibeeza

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 24 November 2005 00:30 (eighteen years ago) link

Americans would never be so pretentious as to poorly ape the Spanish pronunciation in some desperate bid for sophistication.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 November 2005 01:18 (eighteen years ago) link

Isn't the local name Eivissa (eye-vee-sa)? Ibeeza is a lot closer than Ibbeetha.

― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Thursday, 24 November 2005 02:58 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm just kidding, we totally would be like that.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 24 November 2005 03:25 (eighteen years ago) link

I watched all of S1 this past weekend and JESUS CHRIST I AM STUPID FOR MISSING THIS LAST YEAR. I want to personally thank Mel and all other like-minded soulds for bugging enough people to watch this that it got a second season; I won't let you down again, I promise!

p.s. Who gives a shit about Lost? My problem with the Wednesday 9 p.m. timeslot is that it falls at the same time as MythBusters!

― J (Jay), Monday, 28 November 2005 21:46 (eighteen years ago) link

http://television.aol.com/feature/veronica_mars_tv

Alternate ending of the last episode.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 06:07 (eighteen years ago) link

Booo, the alternate ending is kind of lame.

I'm willing to bet the kid isn't Duncan's - it's too easy, the parallels between Duncan/Veronica and Jake/Lianne and everything. They're setting it up so that Duncan looks like a dick, but comes out clean in the end.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 06:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Alternate ending not available for non-Americans

― alex in montreal (alex in montreal), Friday, 2 December 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

At the end, the mother of the pregnant girl comes in and smothers her daughter (while Veronica hides behind a curtain), Veronica goes over to pick up the pillow and a nurse walks in going "WHAT DID YOU DO?"

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Friday, 2 December 2005 19:09 (eighteen years ago) link

Okay...I don't understand the point of the alternate ending...

― Gukbe (lokar), Saturday, 3 December 2005 02:56 (eighteen years ago) link

They were voting to see which was more popular (and would determine the storyline, presumably). Veronica would be accused of murder, have to prove her innocence, etc.

I'm glad they didn't go that route.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Saturday, 3 December 2005 03:39 (eighteen years ago) link

Yeah, that sounds like something Lost would do!!! OMg1!

― Keep the juices flowing by jangling around gentleee as you move (Leee), Saturday, 3 December 2005 04:00 (eighteen years ago) link

There was no point to the alternate ending and it was never intended to be part of the continuity. It's just a weird little gimmick.

― Melissa W (Melissa W), Saturday, 3 December 2005 10:34 (eighteen years ago) link

"Yeah, that sounds like something Lost would do!!! OMg1!"

I don't know, I mean, it would involve having to actually kill someone off.

― Cressida Breem (neruokruokruokne?), Saturday, 3 December 2005 21:25 (eighteen years ago) link

Here's the URL, maybe this will work for non-US people? - http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/aolentertainment/tv/2005/filtered/upn/veronica_mars_alternate_ending_113005_dl.mov

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 20:33 (eighteen years ago) link

"Bright Morning Stars Are Rising" -- nice.

The last two episodes have been great, if a little confusing.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 4 December 2005 20:42 (eighteen years ago) link

I've never read this thread because I only got started on the 1st season DVDs recently -- awaiting disks 3 & 4 now from Netflix and I could just jump up and down with impatience. WHY OH WHY DIDN'T I LIST THEM NEXT?! It does occasionally recall Buffy, mostly just in snippets of dialogue or V's delivery in certain moments, but not in any way that makes my eyeballs roll under the furniture so that's all right. And isn't her dad the living BEST?!

― Laurel (Laurel), Sunday, 4 December 2005 20:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Any word on a third season yet? I know the ratings still suck, but you'd think UPN enjoys the positive press.

― Erick Dampier is better than Shaq (miloaukerman), Sunday, 4 December 2005 20:56 (eighteen years ago) link

I hear next year the show will be placed against Desperate Housewives.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Sunday, 4 December 2005 21:19 (eighteen years ago) link

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