everybody on ilx complains about reddit

yeah i don't really buy the 'gawker is just as sketchy' argument, call me back when gawker has forums encouraging insecure college-age girls to post naked pics of themselves for internet karma points

http://www.reddit.com/r/gonewildrequests/comments/101khq/rbuttsharpies_needs_new_life_gwers_of_the_world/

I don't know why buttsharpies is as awesome is it is, I just know that it's damn sexy!

Nick Denton actually spends part of his time making sure Max and company don't post child porn and delete the posts where they do

funny i kept thinking there was a usenet joke to be made about this being a fight b/n alt.binaries.nude.celebrities and alt.photography.creepshots

no usenet humor allowed

meow

alt.barney.dinosaur.die.die.die

usenet was more fruitful than reddit for non-creepy strange forums

gawker too!

bet that creeping on celebs takes up more of gawker then creepshots to reddit.

(not that it proves anything, just sayin')

very useful comparison

i had never seen this video before some blog linked to it this week

http://www.youtube.com/v/2-avakrRUaU&fs=1&hl=en

― Mordy, Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:50 PM (56 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yeah me either until yesterday, kind of a complete sleazeball

i mean the 2 big differences btw reddit creepshots and gawker publishing celeb sex tapes that seem to get lost on reddit are 1) the distinction between public figures & private citizens (or generally between "news" and "not news") and 2) gawker writers publish this stuff under their irl names

distinction 1 is "real" but arguable i guess, theres a legal distinction and it seems to have been more or less settled in the court of public opinion anyway

distinction 2 strikes me as more important and yet even more ignored

― max, Wednesday, October 17, 2012 12:09 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

what is the legal distinction? i seriously don't know

w/r/t to libel and slander lawsuits, if the plaintiff is a 'public figure' they have to prove actual malice

irl lawyers feel free to correct me if im wrong

so do the sex tape people involved have to know they are being filmed at the time for it to be okay to subsequently 'broadcast' or not?

max are you a 'public figure'?

If 'this is legal' is Reddit's main defense in standing up against DOXers, then surely it can be a defense for Gawker who doesn't seem to appear to be doing anything illegal either.

Yeah, but they don't know who any of the people in their pictures are. They're anonymous people without thoughts and feelings and jobs, not like their moderator.

yeah like I said the whole 'legal/illegal' part is a huge strawman

doesn't gawker media own reddit or something? or at least have investors in common?

No, you're thinking of Digg.

that would explain a rivalry...

I'm just spreading misinformation, there's no commonality

there's got to be some commonality -- everyone owns everyone else to some degree.

yeah... no, not really

bigger than Obama

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/z1iiy/i_am_blogger_max_read_ama/

TmZ exclusive: secretive Reddit owner Eustace Tilley Reddit revealed to also be Gawker owner Eustace Tilley Gawker III by citizen journalists who noticed the similar names.

how come there isnt a gawker subreddit

i have facebook shots of max r3ad if anyone wants to share hit me up on email. me too.

i have pix of m-x r--d drinking in college

Big fan of the FFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUU concept and subreddit.

lol @ that gawker chcik

wow, lagoon - please post them to /r/r--dshots, tnx (I think you know what the -- stands for ;) )

where's markers when you really need him for the easy slamdunk display name

wow, lagoon - please post them to /r/r--dshots, tnx (I think you know what the -- stands for ;) )

― 乒乓, Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:56 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

hah pitch perfect

[–]wheelchairgurl 2 points 1 month ago
how can i see a tity?

this was never answered max why are you silent on this subject

[–]malcolmread[S] 1 point 1 month ago
i dont know can you?

Haven't these people heard of, i don't know, the rest of the internet?

http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/11n38d/i_am_andrea_seabrook_host_of_decodedc_former_npr/

this is not getting very much response, to the point where it's become a customer service line -- one guy
is asking how come he never got his scrabble deluxe edition for winning the weekly puzzler.

isn't the purpose of reddit to consolidate/replace the internet for you

i still type URLs into my browser's address bar, how oldschool does this make me

i just use AOL shortcuts

was that actually max??

oh, definitely

did i just accidentally doxxxx?

who doxxed

so do the sex tape people involved have to know they are being filmed at the time for it to be okay to subsequently 'broadcast' or not?

― pandemic, Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:30 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

no... well it depends on what you mean by "okay." my understanding is that the *legal* issues (which i think are generally regarded as decent proxy for the "moral" issues among journalists) are, was the tape/photo obtained legally -- for paparazzi shots in the US the answer is almost always "yes" -- and does its reproduction constitute "fair use," a question that in some cases might hinge on the public figure distinction. most journalists would argue that a celebrity sex tape constitutes news, whether its fact or the story of its leaking, and justify publishing on those grounds.

AGAIN THOUGH im probably getting some/all of this wrong so lawyers shd feel free to correct.

max are you a 'public figure'?

― mookieproof, Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:32 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

heh if i were suing someone for defamation my lawyer would argue that i am not. cant really say till im in court though.

If 'this is legal' is Reddit's main defense in standing up against DOXers, then surely it can be a defense for Gawker who doesn't seem to appear to be doing anything illegal either.

― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:33 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

yes, tho, also, the legal public figure thing is kind of a distraction, i just brought it up to emphasize that this is a widely-recognized distinction

omg max totally doxxxed himself his real name is malcolm read