Subways are for sleeping: NYC Transit survival thread

yeah except when all the disabled seats are taken by idiot teenagers, and you have cancer. xp

yeah well also people are horrible, it's true

a subway where everyone has a seat is probably an underused and inefficient subway right?

yup.

xp

I'm not pushing the $120 plan, I also benefit from it all going to the single-rider users - tho I guess gf's use cancels that out. I just think that it's important to put the cost in perspective.

there is another added benefit to the unlimited card, which is the psychological 'I can take any transit whenever I want and not make a cost-benefit decision' and that's why a lot of people who could right now be saving money w/ pay-per-ride still get unlimited cards.

I see "underused and inefficient" being the inevitable MTA argument for scaling back or eliminating a 24-hour subway, at which point I do my damnedest to get the fuck outta this burg.

seems like people mostly want the cheaper unlimited option anyway, right? and $2.50 is still really cheap for a single ride. I say this coming from BART and commuting through multiple zones and paying upwards of $4 each way.

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and if you wanna talk about a lack of late night options...

Yeah I agree there's a small added benefit to the unlimited card -- just the assurance that comes from always having the card in my wallet, never having to worry about refilling, always feeling like if I wanted to I could do a bunch of trips in one day (although I probably don't do a multi-trip day more than a couple times a year).

the NYPost poll definitely shows more people favoring the cheapest unlimited

I don't think the 24-hour service is ever gonna be seriously put at risk. too many people work weird hours + the real benefits from shutting it down at night only come if you shut it down long enough to make repairs rather than just 3-4 am. basically enough people depend on it being the way it is that it's effectively impossible, even if it's not particularly 'efficient'.

shut it down from 12-4

pm.
for siesta

exactly

taht's an awful time to travel already

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/17/nyregion/taxi-hailing-app-uber-pulls-out-of-new-york-after-6-weeks.html?_r=0

that app isn't really well suited for the nyc taxi, uhh, ecology I guess. that's what livery cabs are for.

or nyc taxi ecology isn't really well suited for 2012

fuck uber

not for really any other reason than i hate tech people

I hate tech people but not as much as I hate the nyc taxi industry

uber seems inherently dislikeable

I don't have any particular affinity for uber itself but there is really no good reason why we shouldn't be able to easily hail cars w/ a smartphone esp in the outer boroughs and its pretty obv that the medallion holding companies will be fighting this one to the death.

fuckin' shitfuckers

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/26/transit-shutdown-possible-as-sandy-bears-down-on-city/

I BETTER NOT HAFTA CAB BACK FROM SEEING NIXON HOME MOVIES AT MOMA, I'M SAYIN'

oh no u fuckin don't

http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/10/27/m-t-a-chief-announces-storm-plan-for-subways-buses-and-commuter-trains/?hp

ergh j was planning on taking the 7:07 metro north to new haven

not official yet

FUCK YOU, ANDY

New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo has ordered New York City's transit service to suspend bus, subway, and commuter rail service in advance of the massive storm expected to hit the eastern third of the United States.

Cuomo says the system will be suspended starting at 7 p.m. Sunday.

3 day weekend I guess. Is this storm really gonna be that bad?

considering i am not buying any provisions, yes, this one will be very bad. this time last year, hurricane irene turned me into a survivalist sucker...

how long do these outages last, normally?

xp dude there's going to be a massive storm, what do you expect?

FUCK YOU, SANDY

fixed

So I get off work on Monday? How much time do they need to restore service? This is starting to appear serious. I'm going to buy some coffee beans.

Things I won't be able to do thanks to the subway shutdown: buy white knee socks for Halloween at the sock man and attend an old-timey spooky live radio performance in long island city. If I get off work tomorrow, that's a fair trade off.

how long do these outages last, normally?

― 乒乓, Sunday, October 28, 2012 11:02 AM (43 minutes ago)

could be a week or longer depending on where you are

I work in the Starrett-Lehigh building in westernmost Chelsea. They just called off work tomorrow. Yay.

I have tickets to see Blue Oyster Cult tonight in times square though. NOOOOOOOO

Specifically, New York City's infrastructure may take an unprecedented hit. The subway narrowly escaped flooding during Irene, and Sandy (for all the reasons above) is expected to be worse. So... 

"According to the latest storm surge forecast for NYC from NHC, Sandy's storm surge is expected to be several feet higher than Irene's. If the peak surge arrives near Monday evening's high tide at 9 pm EDT, a portion of New York City's subway system could flood, resulting in billions of dollars in damage," Masters concluded. "I give a 50% chance that Sandy's storm surge will end up flooding a portion of the New York City subway system."

http://m.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2012/10/why-sandy-has-meteorologists-scared-in-4-images/264198/

There were no "advance shutdowns" in the first 100+ years of the NYC subway.

#fearoflitigation #pussies

I have no idea how bad it's gonna be, but if they had shut it down at midnight, MomA would not have had to cancel Nixon Super-8 Movies.

the shutdown begins at 7 but trains are actually running til 3.

it has less to do w/ litigation and more to do w/ the fact that cautionary measures might be the difference between the system down for a day and certain lines being down for weeks. also it takes a long time to shut it down, hours.

I am healthily skeptical of the probabilities.

Anyhoo, I was to start another cycle of chemo at 2pm tomw, so will depend if the center and the car services are running.

where'd u hear the 3am thing?

secondavenuesagas twitter feed

I feel more skeptical this time than last time for sure. but I think it's easy to discount the fact that irene actually ended up being a super powerful hurricane that knocked out power for half of ct and it was very close to doing serious damage to nyc. it just did it to places we don't care about instead.

they're calling for less rain but more storm surge than irene iirc, and the surge is what has the mta worried

irene also did serious damage in parts of NJ.

Any storm does serious damage to NJ.

so this surge is related to the full moon-tidal factor as well as wind, eh.

Will the Subway Be Closed on Tuesday?

It’s looking pretty likely. Joseph J. Lhota, the chairman of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority, said Sunday morning that the authority hoped to restore service by Wednesday. “I do think Monday and Tuesday are going to be difficult days,” he said.

when the MTA shuts down, how do MTA employees go home?

Iirc they drive back to their homes in the far reaches of Queens and Sheepshead Bay.

like a lot of the nyc blue collar class a lot of them have cars parked at the end of a line, some of them don't and might be in a weird situation, some of them prob scheduled their way out.